What was said

Conservation Commission, August 21, 2024

the recording · 1:40 long, about 9,731 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:26:17The commission voted to issue an enforcement order on an expired permit at a property the agent described.
  2. ▶ 1:35:16It approved a contract award for Mass Trails grant work to Dillon Roy, with Mass Trails paying most of the cost and the commission the rest.
  3. ▶ 29:16It continued the Mass Ave driveway request to September 4 so the applicant can add measurements to the drawing.
  4. ▶ 35:58It approved two requests for determination, two notices of project change and three certificates of compliance, all by unanimous roll call.
  5. ▶ 49:14It continued the 171 Arbor Street hearing to September 18, and the agent will check whether a wetland violation exists at Meadow Lane.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Wetlands filings and enforcement decide what can be built near protected land in town, and the Mass Trails work draws on commission tree funds that members described as getting lean.
  • The select board's vote to use ARPA funds as the match for the trails grant shows that more than one town body is paying for this work.

Watch next

  • September 4: the Mass Ave driveway request and the 390 Howard Street hearing return.
  • September 18: the 171 Arbor Street hearing resumes.

contracts and unionsgrantsplanning and zoningpublic commenttown departments

Present: Madam chair (unnamed) (chair); Jenny Pewtherer (member); Rich (member); Mike Larouche (member); Chris (member); Sophie (conservation agent/staff); Jeff (member (absent)). 2 of 7 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 29:16Continue the Mass Ave driveway request for determination (11:47 Mass Ave) to September 4passed (roll call, all aye)
  2. ▶ 35:58Approve as submitted the request for determination for detention pond maintenance at Courtland Circlepassed (roll call, all aye)
  3. ▶ 42:23Approve the PJ Keating request for determination for the pump house addition at 495 Leominster Shirley Roadpassed (roll call, all aye)
  4. ▶ 44:51Continue the 171 Arbor Street hearing to later in the meetingpassed (roll call: Rich, Mike, Chris, chair aye)
  5. ▶ 47:01Approve retroactively the administrative determination for tree work at 37 Fire Roadpassed (roll call, all aye)
  6. ▶ 48:49Approve certificate of compliance for 1325 Mass Avepassed (roll call, all aye)
  7. ▶ 49:14Continue the 171 Arbor Street hearing to September 18passed (roll call, all aye)
  8. ▶ 50:19Approve certificate of compliance for 5 Round Roadpassed (roll call, all aye)
  9. ▶ 51:00Approve certificate of compliance for 141 Hillock Drivepassed (roll call, all aye)
  10. ▶ 56:43Approve the notice of project change for 137 Flynn Road as presentedpassed (roll call, all aye)
  11. ▶ 1:10:26Approve the notice of project change for 32 Pine Grove Roadpassed (roll call, all aye)
  12. ▶ 1:26:17Issue an enforcement order for the expired permit at the road-2 property Sophie describedpassed (roll call, all aye)
  13. ▶ 1:35:16Award the Mass Trails grant work to Dillon Roypassed (roll call, all aye)

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of august 7 (▶ 6:40); adjourn (▶ 1:39:37).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 13 agree, 5 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsEnforcement order property▶ 1:26:17

    recording Issue an enforcement order for the expired permit at the road-2 property Sophie described — passed

    town’s minutes “to issue an enforcement order to 40 fire road 12.”

    The vote matches, but ours has no street address and the town names 40 Fire Road 12. Check the recording at this point to confirm the property and whether the order concerned an expired permit.

  2. differsMass Trails project cost figure▶ 1:34:13

    recording Mass Trails Grant engineering contract (Dillon Roy): 63,000 and uh $63,500, 80%, 20 %

    town’s minutes “the 4 projects cost is $63,045, with mass trails funding 80% and the arpa funds covering 20%.”

    The 80/20 split agrees. We heard 63,000 and then 63,500 for an engineering contract; the town gives $63,045 as the cost of four projects. Check the recording to see whether this is one figure misheard or two different amounts (contract vs total).

5 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Mass Ave address, continued to Sept 4:Continue the Mass Ave driveway request for determination (11:47 Mass Ave) to September 4 — passed→1147 Mass. Ave.▶ 29:16
  • Certificate of compliance street name:Approve certificate of compliance for 141 Hillock Drive — passed→141 Hemlock Drive▶ 51:00
  • Mass Trails award contractor name:Award the Mass Trails grant work to Dillon Roy — passed→Dillis & Roy▶ 1:35:16
  • Mass Trails matching funds:Mass Trails Grant matching funds: 15,450 and55→$15,450.55▶ 1:33:27
  • Chair identity:Madam chair (unnamed) (chair)→Mary Wilson
In one record only: 1 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — 390 Howard Street hearing continued to Sept 4: 390 Howard Street hearing is continued to September 4, at the applicant's request. ▶ 7:45
  • Town’s minutes only — Website term end correction for Jenny Pewtherer: “sophia will contact kara to make that change.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public comment from Carolyn Palo: “carolyn palo stated that she is building a smaller version of the pollinator habitat and asked if she can get seeds from the habitat.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Applicants, consultants and residents attending: “greg roy (dillis & roy) and ken dow (pj keating)”

Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:33:27Mass Trails Grant matching funds

    The select board voted to approve ARPA funds as the commission's match for the Mass Trails Grant, because the commission's tree funds are getting lean.

    as heard:15,450 and55

  2. ▶ 1:34:13Mass Trails Grant engineering contract (Dillon Roy)

    Four projects are proposed for award to Dillon Roy, with Mass Trails funding most of the cost and the commission funding the rest.

    as heard:63,000 and uh $63,50080%20 %

  3. ▶ 1:33:51Tree funds

    The tree funds originally voted for the match are described as getting lean.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 7:45390 Howard Street hearing is continued to September 4, at the applicant's request.
  • ▶ 1:31:38Sophie will try to contact the homeowners and validate whether a current wetland violation exists at Meadow Lane.
  • ▶ 28:55The Mass Ave applicant will update the drawing with dimensions from the driveway to the wetland and to the limit of work.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 4:16Reported a long-running wetlands violation: a shelter in wetlands and mowing behind her father's home; discussed again at length during enforcement. — Carolyn poo, as heard, resident (42 Meadow Lane)
  2. ▶ 1:38:06Asked whether seeds could be obtained from the pollinator habitat for her own butterfly habitat. — a speaker, resident

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:04Opening, roll call, announcementsinformational · 4:11 long
  2. ▶ 4:16Public comment and minutesminutes approved · 2:44 long · public comment
  3. ▶ 8:05RDA, driveway replacement at 11:47 Mass Avecontinued to September 4 · 21:55 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 29:57RDA, Flat Hills detention pond maintenanceapproved · 6:43 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 36:42RDA, PJ Keating pump house additionapproved · 6:38 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 43:25171 Arbor Street, administrative determination, certificates of complianceapproved; Arbor St continued to September 18 · 6:35 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 51:23Notices of project change, Flynn Road and Pine Grove Roadapproved · 19:47 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:11:10Enforcement: Meadow Lane complaint and expired permit orderagent to investigate Meadow Lane; enforcement order voted on the other · 21:10 long · planning and zoning, public comment, legal
  9. ▶ 1:32:43Mass Trails Grant matching funds and contract awardvoted · 3:57 long · grants, contracts and unions
  10. ▶ 1:35:59Hollis Road, committee updates, pollinator habitat seedsinformational · 3:51 long · facilities
  11. ▶ 1:39:37Adjournmentadjourned · 0:23 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Whether Rich's vote was heard at several roll calls where audio dropped (e.g. around 3447 and 2847).
  • Exact address and nature of the 'road-2' expired permit; the captions render it as '45 road2' and the motion at 5177 was not clearly stated.
  • Exact text of the matching funds figure (rendered '15,450 and55') and the contract total.
  • The caption for the 1325 Mass Ave item and 11:47 Mass Ave is garbled.

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