What was said

Conservation Commission, September 4, 2024

the recording · 1:26 long, about 8,605 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:08:19The Commission voted to issue a per-day violation notice at 390 Howard Street until erosion controls are restored and approved by the office.
  2. ▶ 35:31The 160 Sunset Lane tree removal determination was continued to September 18, pending a more detailed erosion control and replanting plan.
  3. ▶ 11:04The 390 Howard Street abbreviated notice of resource area delineation hearing was continued to October 2.
  4. ▶ 42:32Three certificates of compliance were approved, along with a negative determination for a driveway and sewer connection and a notice of project change at 10 Sunset Ave.
  5. ▶ 1:15:25The Commission allowed use of the town purchase order for bridge repairs at Larkin Town Forest and asked the planning board to release 2024 GIS hours for trail maps.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Erosion at 390 Howard Street is the kind of unresolved site problem that can drain into nearby waterways, and the Commission is now using fines and agency escalation, not further hearings, to force a fix.
  • The Commission's enforcement relies on a bylaw cap and a notice written and mailed each day, and the agent's workload and a part-time hire with reduced hours affect how quickly violation letters and decisions get out.

Watch next

  • September 18: the 160 Sunset Lane hearing resumes with a native planting and erosion control plan.
  • October 2: the continued 390 Howard Street delineation hearing, where the Commission said the application could be denied for lack of information if it keeps being continued.

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Present: Jenny puer (member); Rich Burch (member); Jeff vivano (member); Mike Larouche (member); Chris St Germain (member); Sophie / Sophia (conservation agent / staff); Bob Proctor (presenter (applicant representative, 1147 Mass Ave)); Chuck Karen (presenter (representative for Kevin O'Brien)); Ryan Proctor (presenter (representative for 10 Sunset Ave applicants)). 1 of 9 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 7:16Approve request for determination of applicability (negative determination) for driveway replacement and sewer connection grading — moved by Rich (as heard), as heardpassed (roll call; all five aye as heard)
  2. ▶ 11:04Continue the 390 Howard Street abbreviated notice of resource area delineation hearing to October 2 — moved by Mike, as heardpassed (roll call; all five aye as heard)
  3. ▶ 35:31Continue the 160 Sunset Lane tree removal determination to September 18 pending a more detailed erosion control and replanting planpassed (roll call; all five aye as heard)
  4. ▶ 38:32Accept the agent's recommendation to approve removal of three dead pines at 24 Brookview Terrace, leaving the stumps — moved by Rich (as heard), as heardpassed (roll call; all five aye as heard)
  5. ▶ 39:57Approve certificate of compliance for 39 Main Streetpassed (roll call; all five aye as heard)
  6. ▶ 41:43Approve certificate of compliance for 17 Watt Street lot six — moved by Richard (as heard), as heardpassed (roll call; all five aye as heard)
  7. ▶ 42:32Approve certificate of compliance for 441 Townsend Harbor Road — moved by Mike, as heardpassed (roll call; all five aye as heard)
  8. ▶ 47:27Approve the notice of project change at 10 Sunset Ave as presented (member Jenny recused) — moved by Mike, as heardpassed (roll call; four members voting plus chair as heard)
  9. ▶ 1:08:19Issue a violation notice of $300 per day at 390 Howard Street until erosion controls are put back in place and approved by the office — moved by Rich, as heardpassed (roll call; member Jenny did not vote; others aye as heard)
  10. ▶ 1:15:25Allow Bob Pease access to the town purchase order for bridge repairs at the Larkin Town Forest, with prior authorization from chair or office — moved by Rich, as heardpassed (roll call; all five aye as heard)
  11. ▶ 1:16:33Authorize the chair to ask the planning board to release the 2024 GIS hours for updating trail mapspassed (roll call; all five aye as heard)

And 2 procedural: approve minutes of august 21 (▶ 3:24); adjourn (▶ 1:26:08).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 14 agree, 5 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differs441 Townsend Harbor Road CoC roll call, number voting▶ 42:32

    recording Approve certificate of compliance for 441 Townsend Harbor Road — passed (roll call; all five aye as heard)

    town’s minutes “to approve certificate of compliance. roll call vote: jenny-aye, rich-aye, jeff-aye, mike-aye, chris-aye, and mary-aye.”

    The outcome matches, but the official roll call has six ayes including Mary and ours has five. Check the recording to see whether the chair voted and the tally was missed.

  2. differsAttendance: Chair Mary Wilson▶ 0:00

    recording Jenny puer (member); Rich Burch (member); Jeff vivano (member); michae larouche (member); Chris St Germain (member)

    town’s minutes “roll call: jenny p., rich b., chris s., mike l., jeff v ., mary w., and sophie d. (admin)”

    The official roll call has six members including Chair Mary Wilson, and ours lists five with no Mary. This bears on the 'all five aye' tallies, so check the recording for who chaired and voted.

5 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Bob Pease access to PO for bridge repairs:Allow Bob Pease access to the town purchase order for bridge repairs at the Larkin Town Forest, with prior authorization from chair or office — passed→Maki PO for Large Town Forest▶ 1:15:25
  • Member name: Jenny:Jenny puer (member)→Jennifer Pewtherer▶ 0:00
  • Member name: Rich:Rich Burch (member)→Richard Bursch▶ 0:00
  • Member name: Jeff:Jeff vivano (member)→Jeffrey Viviano▶ 0:00
  • Staff name: Sophie:Sophie / Sophia (conservation agent / staff)→Sophia Dorow▶ 0:00
In one record only: 3 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Other violation-fine figures heard, 390 Howard St: Violation fines, 390 Howard Street: $300 per day, 500 a day, up to 300 ▶ 1:08:19
  • Recording only — Agent may contact DEP; ANRAD could be denied: Commission members agreed the agent may reach out to DEP for advice, and that the ANRAD could be denied for lack of information if the applicant keeps continuing it. ▶ 1:11:10
  • Recording only — 40 Fire Road violation letter priority: Violation letter for 40 Fire Road 12 to be moved to the top of the agent's priority list, with 390 Howard Street a close second. ▶ 1:12:35
  • Town’s minutes only — Condition on Maki PO use: “bob should notify the office or the chair of an approximate dollar amount before the po is used.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Snow Rider and ConCom sponsored grant updates: “no update on snow rider grant.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Bob Pease and Maddison Berthet as named persons: “maddison berthet conservation assistant”

Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:08:19Violation fines, 390 Howard Street

    Motion for a per-day fine until erosion controls are restored; a member noted the bylaw caps the fine and a new notice must be written and mailed each day.

    as heard:$300 per day500 a dayup to 300

  2. ▶ 27:04Replacement plantings cost, 160 Sunset Lane

    A member compared the cost of small whip plantings against nursery container trees.

    as heard:$75 a dozena couple hundred dollars a tree

  3. ▶ 1:15:25Purchase order for bridge repairs

    Commission allowed a volunteer to use the existing purchase order for materials, with prior notice of an approximate amount.

  4. ▶ 1:16:332024 GIS hours for trail maps

    The commission authorized a request to the planning board to release GIS hours for updating trail maps.

    as heard:2024 GIS hours

  5. ▶ 1:23:35Office assistant hours and budget

    The new hire's hours were reduced due to budget, with part of the time going to minute-taking, and the previous minute-taker position no longer budgeted.

    as heard:10 to 3 Tuesdays and Thursdays10 [hours]five hours

  6. ▶ 1:24:42Conservation Commission sponsored grant

    A grant awarded in 2023 is progressing, with purchase orders being generated to start consultant work; another grant is being closed out.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 36:47Applicant at 160 Sunset Lane is expected to return on Sept 18 with a native planting plan to quickly revegetate the eroding slope; proposed conditions included removing the three trees nearest the dock with roots left in place and replacing removed trees three to one with whips.
  • ▶ 1:03:20Agent to send a certified violation notice with a deadline to 390 Howard Street, and to ask DEP and other agencies about escalating the project.
  • ▶ 1:11:10Commission members agreed the agent may reach out to DEP for advice, and that the ANRAD could be denied for lack of information if the applicant keeps continuing it.
  • ▶ 1:12:35Violation letter for 40 Fire Road 12 to be moved to the top of the agent's priority list, with 390 Howard Street a close second.
  • ▶ 1:23:35New part-time office assistant starts the next day after select board approval.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 3:24Chair called for public comment; no one raised a hand and no comment was given.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:17Opening, roll call, announcements, public comment callinformational · 3:07 long
  2. ▶ 3:24Approval of August 21 minutesvoted · 0:42 long
  3. ▶ 4:26RDA for driveway replacement and sewer connection, 1147 Mass Avevoted (negative determination) · 4:12 long · planning and zoning, water sewer
  4. ▶ 8:38390 Howard Street ANRAD update and continuance to Oct 2continued · 3:29 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 12:07160 Sunset Lane tree removal and erosion at Lake Shirleycontinued to Sept 18 · 25:00 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 37:0724 Brookview Terrace dead pine removalvoted · 2:07 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 39:14Certificates of compliance: 39 Main St, 17 Watt St lot six, 441 Townsend Harbor Rdvoted · 4:22 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 43:36Notice of project change, 10 Sunset Ave retaining walls and patiovoted · 4:59 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 48:35Enforcement: 390 Howard Street erosion and violation fine; 40 Fire Road 12voted fine; letters pending · 25:27 long · legal, planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 1:14:02New business: bridge repair purchase order and planning board GIS hoursvoted · 3:16 long · grants, town departments
  11. ▶ 1:17:18Agent update on decision documentation backlog and new hireinformational · 7:03 long · staffing, hiring, personnel
  12. ▶ 1:24:21Old business, committee reports, closing and adjournmentinformational; adjourned · 2:08 long · grants

What the captions could not carry

  • Exact street number of the driveway RDA hearing (heard as 11:47 Mass a).
  • Roll call tallies are rendered as 'hi/I' sounds; individual votes at several roll calls (e.g. around 476 and 2525) are garbled, and Jenny's recusal at 2616 and non-vote at 4228 are inferred from the captions' remarks.
  • The seconder of some motions (e.g. the RDA motion at 436, the 17 Watt St motion at 2525) is not clearly identified.
  • Who seconded the adjournment motion; captions only suggest Mike and Jenny.
  • The mover of the continuance motion at 2131 is not clearly identified.

These are ours, and they are not the record

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