What was said

Conservation Commission, November 6, 2024

the recording · 2:45 long, about 17,824 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:13:42The Conservation Commission denied a certificate of compliance at 564 Page Street, and the applicant was invited to reapply in the spring once vegetation has leafed out.
  2. ▶ 29:49The commission voted a temporary deviation from its regulations to allow a Snow Dog trail groomer on conservation trails, and agreed in principle to pursue a permanent rule.
  3. ▶ 1:34:18It voted to issue a second violation notice at 10 Massachusetts Ave, with a daily fine if the application is not completed by December 4.
  4. ▶ 1:58:44A decision on fines in the Fire Road enforcement case was deferred to December 4, pending a meeting between the administrator and town counsel.
  5. ▶ 44:52The commission approved a notice of intent at 701 Reservoir Road and certificates of compliance at 48 Pearl Street and 393 New West Townsend Road.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Certificates of compliance close out permitted work on a property, so a denial over unestablished plantings keeps that file open until the vegetation is judged established.
  • The groomer allowance is temporary and a permanent trail-use regulation has not been written, so who may use conservation trails and with what equipment remains open to change.
  • Whether daily fines are imposed in the two enforcement cases will be settled at the December 4 meeting, after the administrator consults town counsel on the fine process.

Watch next

  • December 4 meeting: the Fire Road fine decision, the 10 Massachusetts Ave application deadline, and the continued DNA Lunenburg and 390 Howard Street filings.
  • A permanent trail-use regulation for snow groomers, which the commission said it will take up later so absent members can weigh in.

executive sessionfacilitiesgrantslegalpersonnelplanning and zoningpublic commentrecreation

Present: Mary Wilson (chair); Jenny Pewtherer (member); Mike Larouche (member); Chris (member); Sophia (conservation administrator / office administrator); Rich (member (not seen joining)); Jeff (member (absent, out of the country)). 2 of 7 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 29:49Allow the Snow Dog trail groomer on conservation trails as a temporary deviation from the regulations until a regulation change is considered — moved by Chris (as heard), as heardpassed (roll call: Chris, Mike, Jenny aye and the chair; 4-0 as heard)
  2. ▶ 36:28Continue the DNA Lunenburg LLC notice of intent to December 4th (second non-appearance) — moved by Mike, as heardpassed (roll call: Jenny, Mike, Chris aye and the chair)
  3. ▶ 44:52Approve the Christopher Coffin notice of intent at 701 Reservoir Road (Lake Shirley wall replacement)passed (roll call: Chris, Jenny, Mike aye and the chair)
  4. ▶ 50:38Continue the Kevin O'Brien abbreviated notice of resource area delineation at 390 Howard Street to December 4th — moved by Chris, as heardpassed (roll call: Jenny, Mike, Chris aye and the chair)
  5. ▶ 1:13:42Deny the request for a certificate of compliance at 564 Page Street — moved by Jenny, as heardpassed (roll call: Mike, Jenny, Chris aye and the chair)
  6. ▶ 1:22:35Approve the certificate of compliance at 48 Pearl Street — moved by Jenny, as heardpassed (roll call: Chris, Jenny, Mike aye and the chair)
  7. ▶ 1:23:45Approve the certificate of compliance at 393 New West Townsend Road — moved by Mike, as heardpassed (roll call: Chris, Mike aye and the chair; Jenny's response not clearly captured)
  8. ▶ 1:28:09Approve the notice of project change at 22 Fairview (garage dimension change) — moved by Chris (as heard), as heardpassed (roll call: Jenny, Chris, Mike aye and the chair)
  9. ▶ 1:34:18Issue a second violation notice at 10 Massachusetts Ave (as heard) requiring the application to be completed by December 4th, citing a daily fine if not — moved by Mike, as heardpassed (roll call: Jenny, Chris, Mike aye and the chair)
  10. ▶ 2:16:32Appoint Jenny as the point person to add site-walk photos in OpenGovpassed (roll call: Chris, Mike, Jenny aye and the chair)

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 2:44:19).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 13 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsDNA/D & A Lunenburg continuance: who voted▶ 36:28

    recording Continue the DNA Lunenburg LLC notice of intent to December 4th (second non-appearance) — passed (roll call: Jenny, Mike, Chris aye and the chair)

    town’s minutes “motion: jenny p., second: jeff v . to continue to december 4th. roll call vote: mike-aye, jeff-aye, chris-aye, jenny-aye, and mary-aye.”

    The official record has Jeff Viviano seconding and voting aye (5-0); ours has Jeff absent and four ayes. Check the recording at this vote and the official attendance list.

  2. differsFire Road enforcement plan▶ 1:58:44

    recording The administrator will tell the Fire Road respondent that the appeal route is no longer available. She will meet town counsel on the fine process, and the commission will take up fines on December 4.

    town’s minutes “the commission plans to proceed with initiating fines, as outlined in the enforcement order.”

    The official minutes have the commission proceeding with fines through a letter that sets a final deadline; ours defers the fine decision to Dec 4. Check the recording for whether fines were initiated or deferred.

In one record only: 6 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Fire Road enforcement order penalty: Fire Road enforcement order penalty: $25,000 ▶ 1:43:27
  • Recording only — Snow Riders club banners: Snow Riders club trail-work banners: $200 ▶ 2:27:34
  • Recording only — Permanent snow groomer regulation: Commission agreed in principle to pursue a permanent trail-use regulation change covering snow groomers, with generic language not tied to a brand. ▶ 30:31
  • Recording only — 564 Page Street reapply in spring: The applicant at 564 Page Street was invited to reapply in the spring once vegetation has leafed out. ▶ 1:14:32
  • Recording only — 205 Sunset removed from enforcement list: 205 Sunset will come off the enforcement list because town counsel advised the commission lost authority once DEP issued a superseding order of conditions. ▶ 2:00:08
  • Recording only — Work-notice plaque or banner on trail ATV: Members were open to a work-notice plaque or banner on the trail ATV when the commission has approved work; Chris will look into making it. ▶ 2:18:53
  • Town’s minutes only — 586 Reservoir Road field change: “mary directs bruce to reapply for a request for determination (rda) to formally resolve the matter at a future meeting.”
  • Town’s minutes only — 390 Howard Street erosion control site visit: “sophie will conduct a site visit to verify erosion control installation; commission members are invited to attend the site visit.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Hollis Road discussions: “no enforcement action will be taken. the tree will be monitored to ensure it reestablishes itself by spring”

Compared 2026-10-07. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:33:54Second violation notice fine

    The administrator said a second notice, per town counsel's guidance, would include a daily fine. The commission voted to cite it if the application is not completed by December 4.

    as heard:$300 a day300

  2. ▶ 1:43:27Fire Road enforcement order penalty

    The administrator read from the enforcement order that civil penalties could reach a stated maximum for each violation, with each day a separate offense. The commission deferred a decision on fines to December 4.

    as heard:$25,000

  3. ▶ 2:27:34Snow Riders club trail-work banners

    The chair said the snowmobile club had set aside a capped sum for banners marking official trail work on its power units.

    as heard:$200

  4. ▶ 2:36:49Hollis Road residence rent revenue

    Members discussed whether rent from the caretaker residence must go back into the Hollis account. The lease says it does, but an advisor found no deed or conservation restriction requiring it.

  5. ▶ 2:31:43Cabinets for the Hollis Road residence kitchen

    The cabinets were bought by someone else before the volunteer could buy them. Funds were already authorized for the purchase.

  6. ▶ 2:24:26ATV power unit grant

    The snow riders received an ATV power unit paid for under a commission-sponsored grant, and are working on registration. The grant terms require a Mass Trails plaque on it.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 30:31Commission agreed in principle to pursue a permanent trail-use regulation change covering snow groomers, with generic language not tied to a brand. It will take it up later so absent members can weigh in, and the required televised hearings cannot happen yet.
  • ▶ 1:14:32The applicant at 564 Page Street was invited to reapply in the spring once vegetation has leafed out.
  • ▶ 1:58:44The administrator will tell the Fire Road respondent that the appeal route is no longer available. She will meet town counsel on the fine process, and the commission will take up fines on December 4.
  • ▶ 2:00:08205 Sunset will come off the enforcement list because town counsel advised the commission lost authority once DEP issued a superseding order of conditions.
  • ▶ 2:13:19The Island Road owners should file a retroactive request for determination within 30 days.
  • ▶ 2:44:19Next meeting is December 4; there will be no meeting on the 20th because the administrator is out.
  • ▶ 2:18:53Members were open to a work-notice plaque or banner on the trail ATV when the commission has approved work; Chris will look into making it.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 3:00Asked for a field change to move a proposed garage at 586 Reservoir Road just outside the 100 foot buffer, citing two months without sign-off on the building permit. The chair said it was unposted and could not be discussed. — Bruce ringwall, as heard, engineer with GPR, former associate of the late Nick Pauling

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:03Recording setup, opening statement, roll callinformational · 2:27 long
  2. ▶ 2:30Public comment: field change request for garage at 586 Reservoir Roadno action; not on posted agenda, referred to offline follow-up · 9:13 long · public comment, planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 11:43Snow Dog trail groomer proposal on conservation landvoted temporary deviation; permanent regulation change deferred · 21:58 long · recreation, policy
  4. ▶ 33:41DNA Lunenburg LLC storm water notice of intentcontinued to December 4 · 3:08 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 36:49Coffin notice of intent, 701 Reservoir Roadapproved · 9:53 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 46:42O'Brien resource area delineation, 390 Howard Streetcontinued to December 4 · 4:42 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 51:24Certificate of compliance, 564 Page Streetdenied · 25:12 long · planning and zoning, legal
  8. ▶ 1:16:36Certificate of compliance, 48 Pearl Streetapproved · 6:22 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:22:58Certificate of compliance, 393 New West Townsend Roadapproved · 2:15 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 1:25:13Notice of project change, 22 Fairviewapproved · 3:19 long · planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 1:28:32Violation: second notice with daily finevoted · 6:52 long · legal, planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 1:35:24Fire Road enforcement order, fines and appealtabled to December 4 pending counsel advice · 24:44 long · legal, planning and zoning
  13. ▶ 2:00:08205 Sunset removed from enforcement listinformational · 1:24 long · legal
  14. ▶ 2:01:32Unpermitted patio work at Island Roadretroactive request for determination required within 30 days · 13:13 long · planning and zoning
  15. ▶ 2:14:45OpenGov site-walk feature and point personvoted · 2:47 long · technology, policy
  16. ▶ 2:17:32Grant update and trail work plaque for snow riders' ATVinformational; plaque to be explored · 11:05 long · grants, recreation
  17. ▶ 2:28:37Hollis Road residence updates, pollinator habitatinformational · 15:21 long · facilities, recreation
  18. ▶ 2:43:58Closing and adjournmentadjourned · 0:43 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Whether Jenny's aye was captured on the 393 New West Townsend Road roll call.
  • The street number for the second violation notice; captions read 'massav' and 'Ten'.
  • The original motion text for the 22 Fairview approval, which was garbled ('some wol').
  • Several stretches while screens were shared in which no speech was captured.
  • Exact balance of the Hollis Road kitchen funding, which was not stated.

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