What was said

Conservation Commission, January 8, 2025

the recording · 2:41 long, about 18,745 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 42:32The Commission continued the 157 Goodridge Street driveway hearing to January 22 so an abutter without a computer could attend in person.
  2. ▶ 53:05The Commission approved the DNA Lunenburg stormwater notice of intent on the September plans, with no buffer-zone changes; one member abstained.
  3. ▶ 1:01:21The Commission approved the 50 Pine Grove Road notice of intent, 4-0 with one abstention.
  4. ▶ 54:51The Commission continued the 400 Lunenburg-Shirley Road amendment and the 390 Howard Street hearing to January 22.
  5. ▶ 1:13:49The Commission approved two certificates of compliance, denied a third for 32 Pine Grove Road until stabilized, and voted to send a letter to the 10 Mass Ave owner.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Three wetlands hearings stay open until January 22, so abutters on Goodridge Street, Lunenburg-Shirley Road and Howard Street still have a chance to be heard before a decision.
  • The commission's FY26 budget asks (continuing education, handbooks, a tax-mailing flyer, a Ledger ad) were set as direction to the agent with no vote, so they will reach the town budget as requests, not decisions.

Watch next

  • January 22: the next regular meeting, with the three continued hearings.
  • January 29: a special meeting to hear the lake community reports.

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Present: Chris (member); Mike Larouche (member); Jeff (member); Rich (member); Jenny Pewtherer (member); Sophia (conservation agent / staff); Mary (chair). 2 of 7 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 42:32Continue the 157 Goodridge Street NOI hearing to January 22 — moved by Rich, as heardpassed 5-0
  2. ▶ 46:44Continue the 400 Lunenburg-Shirley Road amendment request to January 22 — moved by Chris, as heardpassed 5-0
  3. ▶ 53:05Approve DNA Lunenburg stormwater NOI based on the September plans, with no buffer-zone changes — moved by Rich, as heardpassed 4-0 with one abstention (Jeff)
  4. ▶ 54:51Continue the 390 Howard Street hearing to January 22 — moved by Mike, as heardpassed 5-0
  5. ▶ 1:01:21Approve the 50 Pine Grove Road NOI — moved by Mike, as heardpassed 4-0 with one abstention (Jeff)
  6. ▶ 1:04:22Approve certificate of compliance for 57 Round Road (simple wall) — moved by Mike, as heardpassed 5-0
  7. ▶ 1:13:49Deny certificate of compliance for 32 Pine Grove Road until stabilized — moved by Rich, as heardpassed 5-0
  8. ▶ 1:15:16Approve certificate of compliance for 137 Flynn Road — moved by Rich, as heardpassed 5-0
  9. ▶ 1:22:17Send a letter to the 10 Mass Ave owner with a timeline and a request for a schedule from his wetland scientist — moved by Mike, as heardpassed 5-0

And 2 procedural: approve the november 6th meeting minutes (▶ 2:52); adjourn (▶ 2:40:46).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 3 agree, 1 caption error resolved by the official reading, 13 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsVote count on 157 Goodridge/Goodrich St continuance▶ 42:32

    recording Continue the 157 Goodridge Street NOI hearing to January 22 — passed 5-0

    town’s minutes “motion: rich b., second: mike l. to continue the hearing on 157 goodrich street to 1/22/25.”

    Same motion and outcome, but the tallies differ (5-0 vs 6-0) and the official roll call lists six commissioners; check the recording for how many voted.

  2. differsVote count on 400 Leominster Shirley Rd amendment continuance▶ 46:44

    recording Continue the 400 Lunenburg-Shirley Road amendment request to January 22 — passed 5-0

    town’s minutes “motion: chris s., second: rich b. to continue the hearing on 400 leominster shirley rd. to 1/22/25.”

    Same motion; tally 5-0 vs 6-0. The road name in ours is a caption mishearing. Check the number voting.

  3. differsVote count on D&A Lunenburg stormwater NOI▶ 53:05

    recording Approve DNA Lunenburg stormwater NOI based on the September plans, with no buffer-zone changes — passed 4-0 with one abstention (Jeff)

    town’s minutes “to approve the noi, based on the plans submitted in september, as long as any changed plans are submitted to the office and there are no changes in the buffer zone.”

    Same motion and one abstention, but ours has 4 yes plus 1 abstention (5 voting) and the official has 5-0-1 (6 voting); check whether a sixth member voted. Official also adds a condition that changed plans be submitted to the office.

  4. differsVote count on 390 Howard Street continuance▶ 54:51

    recording Continue the 390 Howard Street hearing to January 22 — passed 5-0

    town’s minutes “to continue the hearing on 390 howard street to 1/22/25.”

    Same outcome; tally 5-0 vs 6-0. Check the number voting.

  5. differsVote count on 50 Pine Grove Road NOI▶ 1:01:21

    recording Approve the 50 Pine Grove Road NOI — passed 4-0 with one abstention (Jeff)

    town’s minutes “to approve the noi for 50 pine grove road”

    Same outcome and abstention, but 4-0-1 vs 5-0-1; check whether the sixth member voted.

  6. differsVote count on 57 Round Road certificate of compliance▶ 1:04:22

    recording Approve certificate of compliance for 57 Round Road (simple wall) — passed 5-0

    town’s minutes “to approve the coc for 57 round road.”

    Same outcome; tally 5-0 vs 6-0. Check the number voting.

  7. differsVote count on 32 Pine Grove Road certificate of compliance denial▶ 1:13:49

    recording Deny certificate of compliance for 32 Pine Grove Road until stabilized — passed 5-0

    town’s minutes “to deny the coc request for 32 pine grove rd. and recommend the applicant come back when those areas are stabilized.”

    Same outcome; tally 5-0 vs 6-0. Check the number voting.

  8. differsVote count on 137 Flynn Road certificate of compliance▶ 1:15:16

    recording Approve certificate of compliance for 137 Flynn Road — passed 5-0

    town’s minutes “to approve the coc for 137 flynn road”

    Same outcome; tally 5-0 vs 6-0. Check the number voting.

  9. differsVote count on letter to 10 Mass Ave owner▶ 1:22:17

    recording Send a letter to the 10 Mass Ave owner with a timeline and a request for a schedule from his wetland scientist — passed 5-0

    town’s minutes “to issue a letter explaining the timeline we expect and requesting a response from his wetlands scientist on the schedule for addressing issues and when documentation will be submitted.”

    Same motion; tally 5-0 vs 6-0. Check the number voting.

  10. differsSnow Riders grant closeout value returned to community▶ 2:35:39

    recording Snow Riders recreational trails grant closeout: 251 hours, $5,000, $116,000

    town’s minutes “this equates to approximately $16,000 back to the community.”

    251 hours and $5,000 agree, but ours says $116,000 and the official says about $16,000; this may be a misheard digit, so check the recording at that point.

  11. differs40 Fire Road hold: what is withheld▶ 1:33:20

    recording The agent will notify the town manager and select board about personal property placed on town land at 40 Fire Road; the certificate of compliance is held until the violation is cleared.

    town’s minutes “the commission discussed whether to approve the noi and decided to wait until the debris is cleaned up.”

    The notification to the Town Manager and Select Board agrees, but ours says a certificate of compliance is held while the official says a Notice of Intent is deferred; check which filing it was.

  12. differsPaint drop-off follow-up▶ 2:30:20

    recording A member will look into local paint-drop-off options before the commission decides on a paint stewardship program.

    town’s minutes “mary believed paint could be recycled at the devens program and chris will check on that option.”

    Both assign a member to check, but ours says local drop-off options and a stewardship decision, while the official names the Devens program and Chris; check the recording for who and what.

  13. differsAttendance and member names▶ 0:00

    recording Chris (member); Mike (member); Jeff (member); Rich (member); Jenny (member); Sophia (conservation agent / staff); Mary (chair)

    town’s minutes “roll call: chris s., mike l., jeff v ., jenny p., rich b., mary w. and sophi a dorow (admin.)”

    The same seven people are present, with full names in the official. Ours says 5 voted on most motions while the official gets 6 with the chair, so check whether Mary voted. Official also lists Jane Ranley as minutes clerk and Jennifer Pewtherer as vice chair.

1 caption error the town’s minutes resolve
  • Continuing education budget figure:FY26 continuing education budget for commissioners: eight classes, $15, 65 per class, 100→no dollar figure printed▶ 1:58:42
In one record only: 6 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Handbook subscriptions: Handbook subscriptions: 24 for Commissioners, 25 for staff, 20 ▶ 2:02:38
  • Recording only — North County Land Trust workshop co-sponsorship: North County Land Trust workshop co-sponsorship: a hundred bucks ▶ 1:57:02
  • Recording only — Fine at 10 Mass Ave: Fine at 10 Mass Ave: $300 ▶ 1:15:59
  • Recording only — Land trust flyer follow-up: The agent will recirculate the land trust flyer, and the chair will contact the open space committee chair about the workshop. ▶ 1:52:37
  • Recording only — Magnesium chloride deicer and 157 Goodridge hearing reasons: Magnesium chloride was noted as a lower-impact deicer if one is needed; no deicing condition was imposed. ▶ 41:49
  • Recording only — Budget asks carried into FY26 request: The agent will carry the budget asks (class counts, handbooks, tax-mailing flyer, Ledger ad) into the FY26 request; no formal vote was taken. ▶ 2:06:28
  • Town’s minutes only — Boulders at 40 Fire Road: “chris will look into having the town place the boulders and will talk to scott benjamin.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Commissioner vacancy: “she will contact the select board.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Follow-up items: 1168 Mass Ave update and Earth Day pollinator event: “brian will give an update at the 1/22 meeting.”

Compared 2026-10-07. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:58:42FY26 continuing education budget for commissioners

    The agent needs budget requests to accounting by the 20th. The commission discussed class counts and per-class costs.

    as heard:eight classes$1565 per class100

  2. ▶ 2:02:38Handbook subscriptions

    The commission agreed to budget handbook access for all members and staff at a nominal subscription cost.

    as heard:24 for Commissioners25 for staff20

  3. ▶ 2:05:04Flyer with tax mailings and Ledger ad

    The chair recommended budgeting yearly for a flyer with tax mailings and a quarter-page Ledger ad, citing last year's estimate.

    as heard:$1,200

  4. ▶ 1:57:02North County Land Trust workshop co-sponsorship

    The land trust mentioned that a small contribution from the commission would be welcome but not expected.

    as heard:a hundred bucks

  5. ▶ 2:12:06Wildlands / Forest Reserve grant

    A member said the grant might cover part of an acquisition cost, but could not recall the share.

    as heard:50%$40,000

  6. ▶ 2:35:39Snow Riders recreational trails grant closeout

    The 2022 grant was closed out, with volunteer time and equipment-use equivalents cited as community benefit.

    as heard:251 hours$5,000$116,000

  7. ▶ 1:15:59Fine at 10 Mass Ave

    A fine was paid to the treasurer by the property owner.

    as heard:$300

  8. ▶ 2:19:52Conservation land management funding

    A member noted that conservation land management money comes only from the timber harvesting fund.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 31:00Hearing on 157 Goodridge Street to be continued so an abutter without a computer can attend in person; applicant to consider driveway pitch, drainage and demarcation of the 30-foot zone.
  • ▶ 41:49Magnesium chloride was noted as a lower-impact deicer if one is needed; no deicing condition was imposed.
  • ▶ 2:06:28The agent will carry the budget asks (class counts, handbooks, tax-mailing flyer, Ledger ad) into the FY26 request; no formal vote was taken.
  • ▶ 1:33:20The agent will notify the town manager and select board about personal property placed on town land at 40 Fire Road; the certificate of compliance is held until the violation is cleared.
  • ▶ 2:10:00A special meeting is set for January 29 to hear the lake community reports; the next regular meeting is January 22.
  • ▶ 2:30:20A member will look into local paint-drop-off options before the commission decides on a paint stewardship program.
  • ▶ 1:52:37The agent will recirculate the land trust flyer, and the chair will contact the open space committee chair about the workshop.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 1:42:25North County Land Trust director described a planned March landowner conservation workshop for Lunenburg and neighboring towns and asked for a town liaison and help identifying landowners. — Anna Wilkins, as heard, director of conservation and climate, North County Land Trust
  2. ▶ 2:10:42A resident (Lynn) commented on wildlands designation by deed and the possibility of designating the Town Forest. — a speaker, resident

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:03Call to order, roll call, public commentprocedural · 2:49 long
  2. ▶ 2:52Minutes of November 6voted · 1:04 long
  3. ▶ 4:16157 Goodridge Street gravel driveway NOIcontinued to Jan 22 · 38:56 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  4. ▶ 43:33400 Lunenburg-Shirley Road amendment to order of resource area delineationcontinued to Jan 22 · 3:52 long · planning and zoning, legal
  5. ▶ 47:47DNA Lunenburg stormwater system NOIapproved · 6:22 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 54:09390 Howard Street ANRADcontinued to Jan 22 · 1:29 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 55:3850 Pine Grove Road NOIapproved · 6:31 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:02:09Certificates of compliance: 57 Round Road, 32 Pine Grove Road, 137 Flynn Roadvoted: approved two, denied one · 13:44 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:15:36Violations and enforcement (10 Mass Ave, 40 Fire Road, 48 Middle Lane, 1168 Mass Ave)letter approved for 10 Mass Ave; others informational · 26:06 long · legal, planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 1:42:03North County Land Trust landowner workshopinformational · 15:19 long · public comment, planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 1:57:42FY26 budget: continuing education, handbooks, outreachdirection to agent, no vote · 11:57 long · budget fy26, town departments
  12. ▶ 2:09:39Meeting schedule and wildlands grant discussioninformational · 12:40 long · grants, planning and zoning
  13. ▶ 2:22:40Farmland of local importanceinformational · 4:55 long · planning and zoning
  14. ▶ 2:27:35Budget report and paint stewardshipinformational; follow-up assigned · 4:55 long · budget
  15. ▶ 2:32:30Earth Day, encroachment (executive session reference), grants, Hollis Road, open spaceinformational · 8:16 long · grants, executive session, legal
  16. ▶ 2:40:46Adjournmentvoted · 0:41 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Some roll call responses were garbled in the captions (e.g. Jenny's and Mike's votes on a few motions).
  • Rich's initial 'I' and some vote counts were inferred from roll call fragments.
  • Who moved the minutes was confirmed as Rich only after a correction.
  • The 1168 Mass Ave owner names were rendered inconsistently (Jeff Powell, Brian Maret).
  • Several roll calls recorded the chair's vote as 'I' without a separate count.

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