What was said

Conservation Commission, January 22, 2025

the recording · 3:00 long, about 21,354 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:59:37The Commission approved a gravel driveway at 157 Goodridge by a 4-2 vote.
  2. ▶ 1:37:24It approved restoration at 828 Lancaster Ave with special conditions, including a survival requirement for the plantings and clean replacement fill; one member voted no.
  3. ▶ 2:30:51It approved an amended order of resource area delineation at 400 Lumus Shirley Road, and a revised plan of record is to be submitted.
  4. ▶ 29:20Four matters were continued to February 5th: the 1168 Mass Ave violation, 32 Hemlock Drive, 352 Sunset Lane and 67 Island Road.
  5. ▶ 2:49:25The chair asked the administrator to study raising wetlands filing fees to fund an office consultant, and the Commission voted not to pursue a paint stewardship program.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Wetlands filing fees fund part of what the Commission can do, and a fee change would reach anyone filing for work near wetlands or a lake.
  • Neighbors of the continued filings, including Hemlock Drive, Sunset Lane and Island Road, will see those decisions made at later meetings, not this one.
  • A request to co-sponsor a landowner workshop was heard without a vote, so any town contribution is still undecided.

Watch next

  • February 5th: the four continued hearings return, and the Commission votes on the tree site visit form.
  • February 19th: the 390 Howard Street delineation returns; a decision on the workshop co-sponsorship was said to be needed within about a month.

budgetfeesgrantslegalplanning and zoningpublic comment

Present: Mary (chair); Chris (member); Mike Larouche (member, remote); Jeff (member); Rich (member); Jenny Pewtherer (member, remote); Sophia (conservation administrator). 2 of 7 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 29:20Continue the 1168 Mass Ave violation discussion to February 5th — moved by Chris, as heardpassed
  2. ▶ 39:50Continue the notice of intent for 32 Hemlock Drive to February 5thpassed
  3. ▶ 1:01:06Continue the notice of intent for 352 Sunset Lane to February 5th — moved by Mike, as heardpassed 4-0 with Jeff recused
  4. ▶ 1:21:51Continue the request for determination at 67 Island Road to February 5th — moved by Mike, as heardpassed
  5. ▶ 1:37:24Approve the notice of intent at 828 Lancaster Ave with special conditions (75% restoration survival, previous fill replaced with clean fill) — moved by Mike, as heardpassed (Rich voted no; other members voted aye)
  6. ▶ 1:59:37Approve the 157 Goodridge gravel driveway as proposedpassed 4-2
  7. ▶ 2:30:51Approve the amended order of resource area delineation at 400 Lumus Shirley Road as proposedpassed
  8. ▶ 2:33:20Continue the abbreviated notice of resource area delineation at 390 Howard Street to February 19thpassed
  9. ▶ 2:36:32Approve the tree removal administrative determination at 44 Brook View Terracepassed
  10. ▶ 2:53:17Do not proceed with a paint stewardship program — moved by Chris, as heardpassed

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 2:59:34).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 11 agree, 2 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 5 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsLandowner workshop co-sponsorship amount▶ 5:59

    recording Landowner workshop co-sponsorship: $250, $500

    town’s minutes “urged each community to contribute $250 to help defray costs.”

    Ours lists a second figure, $500, that the official minutes do not print. Check the recording near t=359 to see whether $500 was said (for example a different tier) or is a caption error.

  2. differs67 Island Road follow-up: who measures▶ 1:20:43

    recording The 67 Island Road owner is to provide photos of the earlier walkway, measurements from the high water mark, and the stairs on the plan.

    town’s minutes “mary asked sophia to go onsite to measure to verify the wall is in the 30' buffer and to add that”

    Ours assigns measurements to the owner. The official minutes assign an onsite measurement to Sophia. Both may be true, but check the recording for who was tasked.

  3. differs400 Leominster-Shirley Rd. plan revision▶ 2:32:16

    recording The applicant will submit a revised plan of record for 400 Lumus Shirley Road without the D series wetland.

    town’s minutes “bill will update the original plans so they can have it for their files.”

    Both say the applicant will update plans, but only ours says the revision removes the D series wetland. Check the recording and the order itself for what the revision changes.

  4. differs10 Mass Ave timeline▶ 2:40:04

    recording The commission accepted the applicant's timeline for 10 Mass Ave (wetland delineation likely by the first April meeting) with no vote.

    town’s minutes “the commission reviewed the timeline and greg anticipated filing the noi at the 4/2/25 meeting.”

    Ours says wetland delineation by the first April meeting. The official minutes say an NOI would be filed at the 4/2/25 meeting. Check which milestone was stated.

  5. differsHollis custodial agreement redlines: who▶ 2:59:34

    recording Jeff expects to deliver redlines of the Hollis custodial agreement by the second February meeting.

    town’s minutes “hollis custodian agreement - michael ray will do a red line on this and commission will discuss at”

    The two records name different people for the redline: Jeff in ours and Michael Ray in the official minutes. Michael Ray is not on either roll call. Check the recording.

2 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Street name: 157 Goodridge vs Goodrich (vote 4-2 otherwise agrees):Approve the 157 Goodridge gravel driveway as proposed — passed 4-2→157 Goodrich Street▶ 1:59:37
  • Street name at 400 Lumus Shirley Road:Approve the amended order of resource area delineation at 400 Lumus Shirley Road as proposed — passed→400 Leominster-Shirley Rd.▶ 2:30:51
In one record only: 2 from the recording, 6 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — 1168 Mass Ave follow-up: The commission asked the 1168 Mass Ave representative to consult farm-plan resources and report back by February 5th. ▶ 28:00
  • Recording only — 32 Hemlock Drive revisions: The applicant's engineer at 32 Hemlock Drive will revise the outlet dimensions and riprap, moving it farther from the lake. ▶ 39:30
  • Town’s minutes only — 48 Meadow Lane site visit: “sophia will contact them to do a site visit.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Farmland of Local Importance referral: “mary said she referred this to agricultural commission to discuss.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Fee schedule review: “asked sophia to look at the fee schedule to see if they should increase fees.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Grants update (Table Rock, Raino property): “grants update (lcc sponsored, award year 2023) - greg roy stated he filed a site plan with the”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public comment (Whitney, Viviano): “jeff viviano (338 sunset lane) stated he would give permission for his wall to be feathered into the tonole wall.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Applicants, representatives and guests as attendees: “anna announced they will be holding a landowner workshop on april 2nd at the bull run.”

Compared 2026-10-07. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 5:59Landowner workshop co-sponsorship

    North County Land Trust asked each participating town to contribute toward the workshop. The commission did not vote and said a decision would be needed within about a month.

    as heard:$250$500

  2. ▶ 2:49:25Wetlands filing fee schedule and office consultant

    The chair asked the administrator to study raising fees that have not increased in a long time, in order to fund a consultant for the office. A warrant article is due next week and the process for changing fees is unresolved.

  3. ▶ 2:49:25Conservation budget report

    The chair reviewed the budget and had no questions.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 28:00The commission asked the 1168 Mass Ave representative to consult farm-plan resources and report back by February 5th.
  • ▶ 39:30The applicant's engineer at 32 Hemlock Drive will revise the outlet dimensions and riprap, moving it farther from the lake.
  • ▶ 1:00:06The 352 Sunset Lane plan is to add erosion control, the walkway extent, wall length, and tree changes. Two trees would be removed and one pruned.
  • ▶ 1:20:43The 67 Island Road owner is to provide photos of the earlier walkway, measurements from the high water mark, and the stairs on the plan.
  • ▶ 2:32:16The applicant will submit a revised plan of record for 400 Lumus Shirley Road without the D series wetland.
  • ▶ 2:40:04The commission accepted the applicant's timeline for 10 Mass Ave (wetland delineation likely by the first April meeting) with no vote.
  • ▶ 2:57:48The commission will vote on the tree site visit form at the February 5th routine meeting.
  • ▶ 2:59:34Jeff expects to deliver redlines of the Hollis custodial agreement by the second February meeting.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 3:13North County Land Trust director asked the commission to co-sponsor an April 2 landowner workshop, with a suggested contribution per community. — Anna Wilkins, as heard, director of conservation and climate, North County Land Trust
  2. ▶ 1:34:33Abutter at 137 Goodridge gave history of earlier clearcutting of the Parker land. — Patricia Whitney, as heard, abutter
  3. ▶ 1:48:52Abutter concerned about runoff to her wildlife refuge pond, traffic on Goodridge Street, and whether boundary markers are accurate. — Patricia Whitney, as heard, abutter
  4. ▶ 1:00:06Owner of 338 Sunset Lane offered permission to tie the new wall into his wall. — a speaker, abutter

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:09Call to order, roll call, public commentprocedural · 2:44 long
  2. ▶ 2:53North County Land Trust landowner workshop sponsorshipinformational · 5:33 long · recreation, grants
  3. ▶ 8:261168 Mass Ave violation discussioncontinued to February 5th · 21:24 long · planning and zoning, legal
  4. ▶ 29:5032 Hemlock Drive notice of intent, drain pipe replacementcontinued to February 5th · 10:44 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 40:34352 Sunset Lane notice of intent, wall replacement and tree removalcontinued to February 5th · 21:56 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 1:02:3067 Island Road request for determinationcontinued to February 5th · 19:46 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 1:22:16828 Lancaster Ave notice of intent, restoration of disturbed areaapproved with conditions · 16:26 long · planning and zoning, legal
  8. ▶ 1:38:42157 Goodridge gravel driveway notice of intentapproved 4-2 · 22:20 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  9. ▶ 2:01:02400 Lumus Shirley Road amended order of resource area delineationapproved · 31:56 long · planning and zoning, legal
  10. ▶ 2:32:58390 Howard Street abbreviated delineationcontinued to February 19th · 1:04 long · planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 2:34:0244 Brook View Terrace tree removal determinationapproved · 2:52 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 2:36:54Engineer updates: 10 Mass Ave violation timeline, Table Rock and other grant site plansinformational · 5:15 long · grants, planning and zoning, recreation
  13. ▶ 2:42:09Enforcement: 48 Meadow Lane and 24 neighbor dumping photosadministrator to contact owners · 6:13 long · planning and zoning, legal
  14. ▶ 2:48:22Old business: wildlands grant, farmland grant, budget and fees, paint stewardship, volunteer help, tree policy, litigation parcels, adjournmentpaint stewardship declined; adjourned · 11:54 long · fees, budget, grants

What the captions could not carry

  • Exact vote counts for several continuances were partly captioned; the chair's own vote is stated only as 'for myself'.
  • Whether Rich voted no on 828 Lancaster Ave is rendered as 'no thank you Rich'.
  • Several addresses (24 'meow', 'Meadow Lane', 48 'me Lane') are garbled.
  • The 157 Goodridge result is stated by the chair as 4 to 2, but Mike's vote was unclear in the captions.
  • Names of some applicants and representatives were mangled.

These are ours, and they are not the record

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