What was said

Conservation Commission, January 29, 2025

the recording · 1:33 long, about 11,605 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 55:15The Conservation Commission approved the Lake Shirley 2025 whole-lake fluridone treatment plan by a 5-0 roll call vote.
  2. ▶ 56:43The approval carries a condition that all testing results in the plan be sent to the office within a week of receipt.
  3. ▶ 3:50The treatment targets fanwort, which was reported as now covering most survey sites on the lake.
  4. ▶ 1:31:35The commission heard the Hickory Hills annual report and took no action; spot-treatment proposals are expected around May.
  5. ▶ 43:42A member of the public asked whether removing plants with fluridone led to more algae the next year at Hickory Hills.

Why it matters — our reading

  • A whole-lake herbicide treatment changes what happens in Lake Shirley this year, and the testing-results condition sets how the commission will see the effect on the water.
  • Hickory Hills spot-treatment requests are expected to return to the commission, so lake-weed control remains an open item for the neighborhoods around both lakes.

Watch next

  • Hickory Hills spot-treatment proposals, expected to come back to the commission around May.
  • Testing results from the Lake Shirley plan, due at the office within a week of receipt.

facilitiesgrantspolicypublic comment

Present: Chris (member); Mike Larouche (member); Jeff (member); Rich (member); the chair (Madam chair) (chair); Wendy jenden (presenter); Dominic marangola (presenter); John Fortune (presenter); Joanna (presenter). 1 of 9 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 55:15Accept the Lake Shirley treatment plan as presented, with a condition that all testing results outlined in the plan be sent to the office within a week of receipt — moved by Chris, as heardpassed 5-0 by roll call (Rich, Jeff, Mike, Chris, chair all aye)

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 1:32:59).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 2 agree, 2 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsLake Shirley plan vote: testing condition timing▶ 55:15

    recording Accept the Lake Shirley treatment plan as presented, with a condition that all testing results outlined in the plan be sent to the office within a week of receipt — passed 5-0 by roll call

    town’s minutes “c. st. germain, to approve the treatment plan as proposed and all testing results are sent to the office prior to application.”

    Both record 5-0 approval with a testing-results condition, but the deadline differs (within a week of receipt vs. prior to application); check the recording near t=3315 and the motion as made.

  2. differsWho voted on the Lake Shirley plan / chair attendance▶ 55:15

    recording passed 5-0 by roll call (Rich, Jeff, Mike, Chris, chair all aye)

    town’s minutes “absent : j. pewtherer”

    Our roll call includes the chair as an aye, but the official minutes list the chair (J. Pewtherer) as absent, with R. Bursch joining late; check who presided and who voted, and whether the 'chair' was an acting chair.

  3. differsWhat Hickory Hills returns with in May▶ 1:31:35

    recording Hickory Hills to return around May with spot-treatment proposals; no commission action on its annual report.

    town’s minutes “noted that they will come back in may with an implementation plan for approval.”

    Ours says spot-treatment proposals with no action on the annual report, while the official says an implementation plan for the commission's approval; check the recording near t=5495.

2 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Presenter Wendy Gendron:Wendy jenden (presenter)→Wendy Gendron
  • Presenter Dominic Meringolo:Dominic marangola (presenter)→Dominic Meringolo
In one record only: 2 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Hickory Hills fanwort control spending figure: Hickory Hills fanwort control spending: somewhere between 5007 $750,000 ▶ 1:01:14
  • Recording only — Wendy to submit slides: Wendy to submit her slides after the meeting for the record. ▶ 52:07
  • Town’s minutes only — Check on DEP 208-1266 order extension: “m. wilson will check to see if it has been extended.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Hollis Road heating system service invoice: “m. larouche noted that the heating system at hollis road was serviced, and the invoice”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public comment by John Fortune on Lake Shirley algae: “john fortune, 50 hemlock drive, wondered if algae problems the next year the result of”
  • Town’s minutes only — Staff present: “sophia dorow - cons. administrator”

Compared 2026-10-07. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:01:14Hickory Hills fanwort control spending

    Hickory Hills Landowners said it has spent a large sum of private funds on fanwort control since 2011.

    as heard:somewhere between 5007 $750,000

  2. ▶ 28:43Fluridone cost

    Dominic noted the herbicide is very expensive and works slowly, so it is best used as a whole-lake treatment.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 56:43Plan approval to include a stipulation that testing results are sent to the office within a week of receipt.
  • ▶ 1:31:35Hickory Hills to return around May with spot-treatment proposals; no commission action on its annual report.
  • ▶ 52:07Wendy to submit her slides after the meeting for the record.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 43:42Asked whether removing phosphorus-consuming plants with fluridone led to more algae the following year at Hickory Hills, and what Lake Shirley should expect. — John Fortune, as heard, resident, Hickory Hills landowners

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Call to order, roll call, announcements, public comment rulesinformational · 3:50 long
  2. ▶ 3:50Lake Shirley annual report and 2025 whole-lake fluridone treatment proposalinformational · 51:04 long · facilities, grants
  3. ▶ 54:54Vote on Lake Shirley treatment planvoted, approved with condition · 2:31 long · policy
  4. ▶ 57:25Hickory Hills annual reportinformational; no action · 34:10 long · facilities
  5. ▶ 1:31:35Closing comments and adjournmentvoted to adjourn · 2:09 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Exact refill date and current drawdown depth at Lake Shirley
  • Some figures (spend range, treated acreage) are garbled in captions
  • Jeff and Rich seconder is unclear; caption says a second came from Jeff

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