What was said

Conservation Commission, April 2, 2025

the recording · 2:28 long, about 18,340 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:40:13The commission voted 7-0 to deny a certificate of compliance for 564 Page Street after finding required wetland restoration plantings had not survived.
  2. ▶ 1:39:53A commissioner will obtain a wetland scientist's letter confirming the originally-approved plantings are alive before the site can resubmit for compliance.
  3. ▶ 43:56The commission approved a driveway/house project on Massachusetts Ave. after striking a documentation condition, and a 7-Eleven project as a minor change with erosion-control follow-up required.
  4. ▶ 23:49Four other pending wetlands matters (Sunset Lane, Howard Street, Electric Ave., Sandy Cove Road) were continued to April 16th.
  5. ▶ 2:27:26The chair announced she will resign the chair role at month's end, with chair and vice-chair nominations to be taken up April 16th.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The Page Street decision means the property remains out of compliance with its wetlands permit until a scientist documents that the required plantings are established, affecting when the owner can close out the project.
  • Several other wetlands filings across town (driveways, a new house, erosion violations) remain open and will be taken up April 16th, which affects abutters and applicants waiting on those decisions.
  • Leadership of the commission is changing at the end of the month, which residents watching wetlands or conservation-fund matters may want to follow.

Watch next

  • April 16th meeting: continued hearings for Sunset Lane, Howard Street, Electric Ave., and Sandy Cove Road, plus chair/vice-chair nominations
  • A wetland scientist's letter on plantings at 564 Page Street, required before recertification can be considered

budgetgrantsplanning and zoningpublic commentrecreationroads and dpwtown departmentstransfers

Present: Jenny Pewtherer (member, remote); Rich Burch (member, remote); Jeff Viviano (member, remote); Mike Larouche (member, remote); Chris St. Germaine (member, remote); Pete Stella (member, remote); the chair (chair, remote). 2 of 7 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 23:49Continue the Pajari NOI hearing (215 Sunset Lane) to April 16th — moved by Rich Burch, as heardpassed
  2. ▶ 43:56Approve the Proctor Massachusetts Ave. Realty Trust NOI with condition 41 modified to strike the SWPPP/NPDES documentation language — moved by Chris St. Germaine, as heardpassed 7-0
  3. ▶ 47:22Continue the 390 Howard Street ANRAD hearing (Kevin O'Brien) to April 16th — moved by Jenny, as heardpassed
  4. ▶ 56:33Strike the peer-review requirement for the 221 Electric Ave. NOI — moved by Chris St. Germaine, as heardpassed 7-0
  5. ▶ 57:19Continue the 221 Electric Ave. NOI hearing to April 16th — moved by Chris St. Germaine, as heardpassed 7-0
  6. ▶ 1:02:25Continue the 10 Sandy Cove Road administrative determination to April 16th — moved by Jenny, as heardpassed
  7. ▶ 1:40:13Deny the certificate of compliance for 564 Page Street — moved by Jenny, as heardpassed 7-0
  8. ▶ 2:01:58Approve the 7-Eleven Massachusetts Ave. project as a de minimis change — moved by Rich Burch, as heardpassed 7-0
  9. ▶ 2:12:53Approve the Native Plant Trust invoice amount for pollinator-habitat plantings — moved by the chair, as heardpassed 7-0
  10. ▶ 2:16:25Approve a $2,000 addition to the existing Mackie purchase order (timber rights fund) — moved by Jenny, as heardpassed 7-0

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of the december 4th meeting (▶ 4:13); adjourn (▶ 2:28:28).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 2 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsFunding source for the pollinator-habitat payment▶ 2:12:53

    recording Payment for the Native Plant Trust invoice from the Pause/Hollis Road-funded account

    town’s minutes “M. Larouche suggested we use the Haws fund.”

    The two records name different funds ('Haws fund' vs. a 'Pause/Hollis Road' account) — check the town's fund ledger for which one actually paid this invoice.

  2. differsWho will confirm with NHESP on the Proctor project▶ 37:22

    recording Greg Roy agreed to informally confirm with NHESP offline whether the Proctor Massachusetts Ave. project needs to file despite being outside the mapped habitat polygon, and report back.

    town’s minutes “M. Wilson agreed to validate the need off-line and get back to Greg if it is indeed required.”

    The two records reverse who is doing the follow-up: ours has the applicant's rep (Greg Roy) checking with NHESP, official has Chair Wilson checking and reporting back to Greg — check the recording to see who actually took this on.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Pollinator-habitat invoice amount:$43324→$433.24▶ 2:11:26
  • Purchase order recipient name:Approve a $2,000 addition to the existing Mackie purchase order (timber rights fund) — passed 7-0→Maki (PO)▶ 2:16:25
  • Street address for Kevin O'Brien erosion issue:Agreed to have Sophie notify Kevin O'Brien separately about erosion/violation concerns at 39 Howard Street and set up a distinct hearing, rather than folding it into the pending continuance.→390 Howard Street▶ 2:04:06
  • Rich Burch's surname:Rich Burch (member)→Richard Bursch
In one record only: 5 from the recording, 6 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Second pollinator-habitat figure ($58,963): $58963 ▶ 2:11:26
  • Recording only — Engineer's commitment to email Sophie after erosion work: The applicant's engineer agreed to email Sophie once corrective erosion and sedimentation work is completed at the 7-Eleven Massachusetts Ave. site. ▶ 2:02:41
  • Recording only — Plan to set up a distinct hearing for the Howard Street erosion issue: set up a distinct hearing, rather than folding it into the pending continuance ▶ 2:04:06
  • Recording only — Assignment of the peer-review hours estimate task: Chair will seek criteria offline from Rich and Bob to help the office scope estimated annual peer-review engineering hours for an annual horizontal-engineering quote. ▶ 2:06:10
  • Recording only — Details of chair succession plan: but remain a member through the end of her term in June; chair and vice-chair nominations to be taken up at the April 16th meeting ▶ 2:27:26
  • Town’s minutes only — Pajari NOI continuance vote tally: “M. Wilson - Abstain”
  • Town’s minutes only — 10 Sandy Cove Road continuance vote tally: “M. Wilson - Abstain”
  • Town’s minutes only — Chair's name: “Mary Wilson, Chair”
  • Town’s minutes only — Vacant Commission seat: “Vacancy Member”
  • Town’s minutes only — Staff present: “Sophia Dorow - Conservation Admin / Logan O'Connell - Temp Admin Assist”
  • Town’s minutes only — 7pm appointment: Hollis Resident Caretaker/Custodian License Agreement: “7pm Appointment Review of the Hollis Resident Caretaker/Custodian License Agreement”

Compared 2026-09-28. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

Transfers

atwhat movedamount, as heardoutcome
▶ 2:12:53Payment for the Native Plant Trust invoice from the Pause/Hollis Road-funded account$43324voted
▶ 2:16:25Addition to the existing Mackie purchase order, from the timber rights fund2,000voted

The money

  1. ▶ 2:11:26Native Plant Trust invoice/proposal for the pollinator habitat

    A commissioner relayed a proposal for plants and trees for the pollinator habitat's initial-season planting, discounted from the applicant's original quote, to be paid from the fund tied to the Hollis Road property.

    as heard:$43324$58963

  2. ▶ 2:13:55MACPO / timber rights fund increase for trail work

    The chair proposed adding to the existing Mackie purchase order, funded from the timber rights fund, to cover conservative estimates from Bob for boardwalks, catwalks at Mopus Brook, and stabilization work in the Reo area.

    as heard:$30,8741720$1,0002,000

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 37:22Greg Roy agreed to informally confirm with NHESP offline whether the Proctor Massachusetts Ave. project needs to file despite being outside the mapped habitat polygon, and report back.
  • ▶ 1:39:53Shane Walker agreed to obtain a letter from a wetland scientist confirming the 17 originally-approved plantings are present and alive before resubmitting for a certificate of compliance at 564 Page Street.
  • ▶ 2:02:41The applicant's engineer agreed to email Sophie once corrective erosion and sedimentation work is completed at the 7-Eleven Massachusetts Ave. site.
  • ▶ 2:04:06Agreed to have Sophie notify Kevin O'Brien separately about erosion/violation concerns at 39 Howard Street and set up a distinct hearing, rather than folding it into the pending continuance.
  • ▶ 2:06:10Chair will seek criteria offline from Rich and Bob to help the office scope estimated annual peer-review engineering hours for an annual horizontal-engineering quote.
  • ▶ 2:27:26Chair announced she will resign as chair at the end of the month but remain a member through the end of her term in June; chair and vice-chair nominations to be taken up at the April 16th meeting.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 1:33:39Responded to the commission's concerns about missing wetland-restoration plantings and asked what a wetland scientist letter would need to show to resolve the compliance dispute. — Shane Walker, as heard, current owner of 564 Page Street

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:07Opening, recording notice, roll callprocedural · 1:49 long
  2. ▶ 1:56Call to order and announcementsno announcements · 0:23 long
  3. ▶ 2:19Public comment period (none raised); note that the administrator is out sickinformational · 1:24 long · public comment
  4. ▶ 3:43Approval of December 4th minutesvoted · 0:49 long
  5. ▶ 4:32NOI: Pajari driveway/house, 215 Sunset Lane (Lake Shirley buffer)continued to April 16 · 19:58 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 24:30NOI: Proctor Massachusetts Ave. Realty Trust, driveway extension and new housevoted (approved with condition modified) · 20:26 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 44:56ANRAD: Kevin O'Brien, 390 Howard Streetcontinued to April 16 (applicant absent) · 3:55 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 48:51NOI: Daniel Sheen/Haley Ward for Red Bird Construction, 221 Electric Ave.peer-review requirement struck; continued to April 16 for flag relocation · 8:49 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 57:40Administrative determination, 10 Sandy Cove Roadcontinued to April 16 (incomplete materials) · 4:45 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 1:03:08Certificate of compliance, 564 Page Streetvoted to deny · 37:47 long · planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 1:41:15Notice of project change, 7-Eleven Massachusetts Ave.voted (approved as de minimis change) · 21:26 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 2:02:41Violations update: 39 Howard Street erosionreferred (separate hearing to be scheduled) · 1:45 long · planning and zoning
  13. ▶ 2:04:26New business: peer-review engineering hours estimate; Earth Day planninginformational/no resolution · 5:56 long · recreation
  14. ▶ 2:10:22Financial items: Native Plant Trust invoice and Mackie PO/timber rights fund increasevoted · 6:45 long · budget, transfers
  15. ▶ 2:17:07Property updates: Chase Road Conservation Area encroachment (tree cutting), 950 Chase Road shed removalinformational · 4:56 long · town departments
  16. ▶ 2:22:03Grants update (Mass Trails), Hollis Road caretaker license, DPW assistance, open space/storm water reportsinformational · 5:02 long · grants, roads and dpw
  17. ▶ 2:27:05Chair's announcement of upcoming resignation and succession planinformational · 1:23 long
  18. ▶ 2:28:28Adjournmentvoted · 0:20 long

What the captions could not carry

  • The exact identity and role of the person referred to as 'Mr. Allegio' arguing conditions for 564 Page Street, and his relationship to owner Shane Walker, is unclear from the captions.
  • The full individual roll-call tally on the motion to continue the Pajari (Sunset Lane) hearing is not clearly captioned for every member.
  • Several dollar figures (e.g. the Native Plant Trust invoice and MACPO amounts) are rendered without clear decimal/comma placement in the captions and may not reflect the true amounts.
  • Whether Pete Stella's vote counted on the 390 Howard Street continuance is ambiguous; the chair noted he was not yet a commissioner when the hearing was first opened in 2023.

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