What was said
Lunenburg Municipal Building Design Committee, April 4, 2022
the recording · 2:15 long, about 18,398 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/lunenburg-municipal-building-design-committee/2022.json
The town published an agenda for this meeting. No minutes have been published; the recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.
The short version
- ▶ 10:40The Municipal Building Design Committee took no votes and went through the departmental space-needs list from the earlier TC Passios reuse study.
- ▶ 1:04:40Members discussed reprioritizing the list, including whether school programs such as Extended Day and ACE belong in town-funded space.
- ▶ 1:51:07Records storage emerged as a major space driver; the chair will send questions to the town manager and, by email, the superintendent.
- ▶ 1:58:23The committee agreed to ask the superintendent where Extended Day and other school uses could go if TC Passios is unavailable.
- ▶ 2:10:30The second April meeting was cancelled; the next meetings were set for May 2 and May 16.
Why it matters — our reading
- How much space the town plans for, and which uses (school programs, records, the performing arts studio) are counted in it, sets the size of any building project that residents would later be asked to fund.
- School uses at TC Passios would not get state building-authority cost sharing, so whether they sit in a town-funded project bears directly on what falls to local taxpayers.
Watch next
- Committee meeting on May 2, followed by May 16.
- The town manager's and superintendent's replies on records handling and where school programs could go.
capitalfacilitiesmsbapolicypublic commenttown departmentsturkey hill
Present: Michael Ray (Mr. Roy) (chair); Peter (Mr. Beardmore) (member (finance committee)); Greg (member); Dave Blatt (member); Christina (member); Tony (citizen-at-large participant / APDC representative); Steve Walker (chair of Public Access Lunenburg (PAC) committee, presenter). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
No substantive votes heard. 1 procedural.
The money
- ▶ 3:57TC Passios renovation / PAC studio space
A member did back-of-napkin math suggesting the PAC studio and admin space portion of the proposed renovation was worth a notable share of the total, possibly more with power and air conditioning.
as heard:30-ish million dollarsa million and a half dollars
- ▶ 7:02PAC equipment fund
The PAC chair said the department's reserved fund is for specialist equipment, not building construction, and he did not know whether any could go to capital building costs.
as heard:about 850 000
- ▶ 8:44PAC studio fit-out estimate
An advisor's estimate, at least five years old, for equipping the interior of a studio structure (soundproofing, flooring, lighting infrastructure).
as heard:three hundred thousand
- ▶ 1:05:51Extended Day and Link rent versus debt service
A member said rent from the programs is small compared with the debt service that renovation or rebuild of the space would require.
- ▶ 1:18:06Cost per square foot and MSBA reimbursement
Members said school uses programmed at TC Passios would not get MSBA cost sharing, and construction costs per square foot may exceed current levels in coming years.
as heard:500 dollars a square foot
- ▶ 1:30:35Project size and cost per square foot
A participant suggested sizing the project by employees times a square-foot standard and asked what total taxpayers could support; a hypothetical project size was divided by a per-square-foot cost.
as heard:20 million dollar project800 a square foot25 000 square feet
- ▶ 1:38:46PAC studio rebuild cost
A member said a PAC studio of several thousand square feet could not be built for less than about a million dollars, a hard sell to voters without cable.
as heard:3 000 something square feeta million dollars
- ▶ 1:43:55Records retention capital plan item
A member noted the current capital plan carries a modest sum for a records retention project, which he saw as incremental progress that does not solve the problem.
as heard:62 500
- ▶ 1:51:07Cost of digitizing town records
The chair speculated that digitizing records could cost far less than building storage space, using an admitted guess.
as heard:350 000
- ▶ 1:54:13Records storage cost per square foot
A member said there must be a way to store records for less than the per-square-foot construction cost.
as heard:800 dollars a square foot
- ▶ 1:48:20Boys and Girls Club funding
A member said the local club is self-funded through dues, private donations and fundraisers.
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 10:49Agenda reordered so program priorities were discussed first while the PAC chair was present.
- ▶ 1:51:07Chair to send questions to the town manager on digitizing records, retention exceptions and how often records are purged; the schools question went to the superintendent via email.
- ▶ 1:57:40No objection to a member contacting colleagues at archive/museum-studies programs for advice on records management.
- ▶ 1:58:23Superintendent to be asked where Extended Day and other non-administrative school uses could go if TC Passios is unavailable.
- ▶ 2:05:20Members to email comments on the prior consultant report by end of week for the chair to compile.
- ▶ 2:10:30The second April meeting was cancelled; next meeting set for May 2, then May 16.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The town has not published minutes for this meeting.
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Public comment
- ▶ 1:08Opening public comment; one attendee noted he would have to leave after 45 minutes.
- ▶ 1:50Member of the APDC/public raised possible PAC studio relocation to a privately owned property on Mass Ave next to the police and fire station, and its bearing on a smaller TC Passios renovation. — a speaker, APDC representative
- ▶ 6:42PAC chair answered questions on the PAC equipment fund and equipment needs. — a speaker, chair of Public Access Lunenburg committee
- ▶ 2:01:09Urged weighing wants versus needs, said Parks Commission has not had a formal discussion of its space request, and said Extended Day is a need but need not have its own building. — karen menard 672 page street, as heard, chair of the Parks Commission, speaking as a member of the public
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- facilities119 min · 88%
- town departments71 min · 53%
- msba39 min · 29%
- capital39 min · 29%
- public comment12 min · 9%
- recreation3 min · 2%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:08Call to order and opening public commentinformational · 1:32 long
- ▶ 1:50PAC space proposal and PAC equipment fund (public comment and questions)informational · 8:50 long · public comment, facilities
- ▶ 10:40Walkthrough of existing and requested space needs by departmentinformational · 54:00 long · facilities, town departments
- ▶ 1:04:40Approach to reprioritizing space needs, school programs, MSBA and costno resolution · 39:10 long · facilities, msba, capital
- ▶ 1:43:55Records retention and digitization; questions for town manager and superintendentquestions to be sent · 17:05 long · facilities, town departments
- ▶ 2:01:09Public comment from Parks Commission chairinformational · 2:51 long · public comment, recreation
- ▶ 2:04:00Next steps, scheduling, open meeting law question, adjournmentvoted to adjourn · 11:20 long
What the captions could not carry
- Roll-call vote on adjournment: individual 'aye' responses are partly audible but a formal tally is not stated.
- Some figures in the space-needs walkthrough (square footages) are garbled by captions.
- Name of the consultant reports under review (garbled).
Reports this meeting suggests
Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.
- ▶ 12:54Town building conceptsHow much space do town and school offices need, and what would different building options cost per square foot?already answered:
thread:tc-passios-site - ▶ 1:43:55Records storage costsWhat does the town spend on storing records and what would digitizing cost compared with building storage space?
- ▶ 7:02PAC studio fundingWhat is in the PAC fund and what could it be spent on toward a studio or building?
- ▶ 1:17:25Turkey Hill capital needsWould a Turkey Hill rebuild qualify for MSBA reimbursement, and would school uses at TC Passios be eligible?already answered:
thread:turkey-hill-rebuild
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