What was said

Open Space Committee, September 22, 2020

the recording · 1:32 long, about 11,379 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 27:50The Open Space Committee voted to recommend to the selectmen a 200-foot setback from Mopus Brook at 250 Howard Street.
  2. ▶ 44:49It voted to recommend two rear parcels, on Mopus Road and West Townsend Road, go to the care and control of the Conservation Commission.
  3. ▶ 56:44It voted to ask that it be empowered to examine all undesignated municipal lands and develop a process, and to approve the 671 West Street request while deferring the others.
  4. ▶ 1:15:26The committee recommended that town boards seek a gift of part of the Bright Farms property for trail access; the recording does not make the vote outcome audible.
  5. ▶ 1:31:13The economic development designee was deferred, and the next meeting was set for October 13 at 6 p.m.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The setback and the land transfers decide how much land along Mopus Brook and in other town-owned parcels is kept as conservation or trail land rather than left open to other uses.
  • These were recommendations only: the selectmen and other boards still decide, and any town land conveyance or transfer may need a Town Meeting vote.
  • The Marshall Park master plan is meant to be paid mostly by grants and earmarks, so the local tax cost is expected to be small, but that depends on the grants being awarded.

Watch next

  • Next Open Space Committee meeting, October 13 at 6 p.m. (dates may change with Zoom availability).
  • The selectmen's response to the 250 Howard Street setback recommendation, and the copy of the earlier town meeting article on 671 West Street.

economic developmentgrantsplanning and zoningpublic commentrecreationtown departments

Present: Brandon (chair); Karen Menard (member); Paula Bertram (member (planning board representative)); Lynn (member); Sarah Cammer (member); Mike Twohill (member); Bob Pease (member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 27:50Recommend to the selectmen the 200-foot setback from Mopus Brook proposal at 250 Howard Street — moved by Bob, as heardpassed
  2. ▶ 44:49Recommend 111 Mopus Road rear and 970 West Townsend Road rear go to the care and control of the Conservation Commission — moved by Bob, as heardpassed
  3. ▶ 56:44Recommend to planning board and selectmen that the committee be empowered to examine all undesignated municipal lands and develop a process — moved by Bob, as heardpassed
  4. ▶ 1:02:27Recommend approval of the request on 671 West Street and defer action on the other proposalspassed
  5. ▶ 1:15:26Recommend town boards seek fee gift of a portion of the Bright Farms property for trail accessnot audible

And 2 procedural: approve the august 20th minutes with a spelling correction (▶ 3:07); adjourn (▶ 1:31:13).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 7 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsVote: Bright Farms land gift for trail access▶ 1:15:26

    recording Recommend town boards seek fee gift of a portion of the Bright Farms property for trail access — not audible

    town’s minutes “karin menard made a motion that the town boards see acquisition of the northeast corner of the land by gift to provide connectivity”

    Our record could not hear the outcome while the official minutes say it passed unanimously; check the recording for the result.

  2. differsFields Pond grant figure▶ 1:26:20

    recording Fields Pond Foundation grants: 25 000, five to ten thousand dollar

    town’s minutes “brandon noted a couple of grant opportunities that may be of interested the parc grant, a 2 year grant”

    Official minutes print no dollar amounts for the Fields Pond grant; check the recording to confirm the figures heard.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Attendee: chair Brandon:Brandon (chair)→Brandon Kibbe▶ 0:00
  • Attendee: Mike Twohill:Mike Twohill (member)→Mike Toohill▶ 0:00
  • Attendee: Lynn:Lynn (member)→Lynne Man▶ 0:00
  • Attendee: Karen Menard:Karen Menard (member)→Karin Menard▶ 0:00
In one record only: 1 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Next meeting date: Next meeting October 13 at 6 p.m.; dates may change with Zoom availability. ▶ 1:31:13
  • Town’s minutes only — Bob Pease to contact Town Manager and Town Counsel: “bob pease will reach out to the town manager and town counsel.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Sidewalk grant opportunities: “sarah cammer suggested the town investigate grant opportunities for sidewalks.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public comment: Dave Passios and Joe Normandin: “dave passios informed the committee that over the fall/winter the parks commission will be working on development of a master plan for marshall park.”

Compared 2026-11-03. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:23:48Marshall Park grants

    Parks member aims to fund the master plan mostly through grants and earmarks rather than local taxes.

  2. ▶ 1:26:20Fields Pond Foundation grants

    Chair described a foundation funding trail access, typically small grants.

    as heard:25 000five to ten thousand dollar

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:00:30A member agreed to obtain a copy of the earlier town meeting article authorizing conveyance of 671 West Street land.
  • ▶ 1:04:51Members agreed to plan a map session and site visits of general municipal parcels.
  • ▶ 1:21:43Economic development designee deferred; chair will invite an outside nominee to the next meeting.
  • ▶ 1:31:13Next meeting October 13 at 6 p.m.; dates may change with Zoom availability.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed committee received correspondence from the town manager:

  • Correspondence from the Town Manager regarding several parcels that abutters are interested in acquiring
  • Map of possible property line delineations for 250 Howard Street (shared by Brandon Kibbe)

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Article voted several years ago allowing the Selectmen to convey portions of 671 West Street
  • Open Space Plan (teal colored parcels)
  • Placeholder article for acquisition of 250 Howard Street on the special town meeting warrant

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 6:56item 1a pdf property mapplan or drawing· in the minutes’ list (“Map of possible property line delineations for 250 Howard Street (shared by Brandon Kibbe)”)
  • ▶ 3:07august 20th minutesprior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:20:00economic development charterother· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Correspondence from the Town Manager regarding several parcels that abutters are interested in acquiring.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 50:05Cautioned about checking deeds and access for the Highland Street parcel before giving up any land. — dave pacios 56 whiting street, as heard
  2. ▶ 1:22:45Parks Commission plans a Marshall Park master plan and seeks grants and committee help; also asked about community garden parcels and sidewalk grants. — dave pacios, as heard

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Call to order and roll callinformational · 2:46 long
  2. ▶ 2:46Minutes of August 20voted · 1:23 long
  3. ▶ 4:09250 Howard Street Chapter 61 and setback proposalvoted recommendation · 30:51 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 35:00General municipal landsthree recommendations voted · 32:20 long · planning and zoning, town departments
  5. ▶ 1:10:40Bright Farms trail accessvoted · 6:31 long · economic development, planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 1:17:11Economic development committee designeedeferred · 5:12 long · economic development
  7. ▶ 1:22:23Public commentinformational · 8:50 long · public comment, grants, recreation
  8. ▶ 1:31:13Next meeting and adjournmentadjourned · 0:57 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote counts on the minutes and Bright Farms motion
  • Adjournment vote tally

These are ours, and they are not the record

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What changed

Version 15 — updated September 20, 2026