What was said

Open Space Committee, October 13, 2020

the recording · 2:04 long, about 14,860 words spoken · captions carried this meeting well

The town published an agenda for this meeting. No minutes have been published; the recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:58:01The Open Space Committee voted by roll call to table its recommendation on the 360 Flat Hill Road orchard and ask selectmen for more time to explore a low-cost way to protect the farmland.
  2. ▶ 1:54:11The chair will pursue land trust and conservation buyer options for 360 Flat Hill Road and report back at the next meeting.
  3. ▶ 1:07:39Members will each review the general municipal parcels before the next meeting, and one member will ask the assessor for a list of all municipal-owned properties.
  4. ▶ 39:53Marshall Park master planning and grants will be a recurring agenda item, with the committee acting as grant liaison for the parks commission.
  5. ▶ 6:14The next meeting moved from Nov 17 to Tuesday Nov 24 at 6 pm.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The 360 Flat Hill Road orchard is a 23-acre parcel in farm-use tax status, and the committee did not recommend either way, so its future is undecided; members doubted town meeting would fund a purchase, which leaves land trusts or conservation buyers as the route to keeping it as farmland.
  • Park grants reimburse only part of the cost after the work is done, so a Marshall Park project would require town meeting to appropriate the full cost up front, contingent on the grant.

Watch next

  • Open Space Committee meeting on Tuesday Nov 24 at 6 pm: the chair's report on land trust and conservation buyer options for 360 Flat Hill Road.
  • The assessor's list of municipal-owned properties by land use code, which the committee will use in its review of general municipal parcels.

economic developmentgrantslegalplanning and zoningpublic commentrecreationtown departments

Present: Brandon Kibby (chair); Paula Bertram (member); Karen Menard (member (parks commission)); Bob Pease (member (conservation commission)); Mike (member); Sarah Cammer (member); Lynn Mann (member (absent)); Dave (parks commission member present); Chris (member of the public). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 1:58:01Table the recommendation on 360 Flat Hill Road and forward to selectmen an explanation asking for more time to explore a low-cost option to protect the farmland — moved by Sarah, as heardpassed by roll call; all present voting aye

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes from 9/22 (▶ 3:36); adjourn at 8:08 (▶ 2:03:51).

The money

  1. ▶ 27:14Park grant reimbursement

    The park grant reimburses a share of cost, so the town must appropriate the full cost up front, contingent on receiving the grant.

    as heard:64 of it36 percent100 of the cost

  2. ▶ 30:54Park grant cap for small communities

    Communities under a population threshold face a hard cap on grants unless parking or transit conditions are met.

    as heard:fifty thousand dollarsa hundred thousand dollarsthirty five thousand100 spaces

  3. ▶ 37:10Alternative grants

    Fields grant and a private foundation were discussed as other sources for design money.

    as heard:500 000 to 25 0002000 to 10 000

  4. ▶ 1:30:47360 Flat Hill Road purchase price

    The purchase and sale agreement lists a price for the 23-acre parcel; members doubted town meeting would fund it.

    as heard:600 000six hundred thousand dollars

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 6:14Next committee meeting moved from Nov 17 to Tuesday Nov 24 at 6 pm.
  • ▶ 39:53Marshall Park master planning and grants will be a recurring agenda topic, with the committee acting as grant liaison for the parks commission.
  • ▶ 1:07:39Members will each review the general municipal parcels with their own focus before the next meeting; the chair will circulate the spreadsheet and map.
  • ▶ 1:25:51Paula will ask the assessor for a list of all municipal-owned properties by land use code with addresses and values.
  • ▶ 1:54:11Chair to pursue land trust and conservation buyer options for 360 Flat Hill Road and report back at the Nov 24 meeting.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The town has not published minutes for this meeting.

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 3:36minutes from 9 22prior minutes, shown
  • ▶ 17:17plans of land (1976 plan)plan or drawing, shown
  • ▶ 52:22appendix 7 of the open space planreport, shown
  • ▶ 1:28:38notice of withdrawal with purchase and sale agreementcontract or agreement, shown

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 1:59:50Asked whether Chapter 61B private land carries public access and how to find out; told to check annual enrollment forms at the assessor. — Chris, as heard

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:07Call to order, remote meeting notice, roll callinformational · 3:29 long
  2. ▶ 3:36Approve 9/22 minutesvoted · 0:46 long
  3. ▶ 4:22Reschedule November meetingmoved to Nov 24 · 2:12 long
  4. ▶ 6:34Old Stagecoach Road and Table Rock access, gateinformational · 15:52 long · planning and zoning, legal
  5. ▶ 22:26Marshall Park master planning and park grantinformational · 20:54 long · recreation, grants
  6. ▶ 43:20250 Howard Street Chapter 61 withdrawal updateinformational · 1:47 long · planning and zoning, legal
  7. ▶ 45:07General municipal properties review processagreed members review parcels first · 43:09 long · town departments, planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:28:16360 Flat Hill Road Chapter 61A withdrawalvoted to table recommendation · 30:28 long · planning and zoning, economic development, legal
  9. ▶ 1:58:44Public comment and adjournmentadjourned · 5:27 long · public comment

What the captions could not carry

  • Whether the selectmen voted on the conservation parcels that evening was not in the captions.
  • Whether in-kind contributions count toward the park grant match was only briefly stated.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 29:34Park grant local matchHow much would the town have to appropriate up front and keep after reimbursement for a Marshall Park grant?
  • ▶ 1:30:47Flat Hill orchard acquisitionWhat would exercising the right of first refusal on 360 Flat Hill Road cost and what are the alternatives?

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What changed

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