Open Space Committee, November 24, 2020

The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

capitalgrantslegalplanning and zoningpublic commenttown departments

Present: karen menard (member); paula bertram (member); bob pease (member); lynn mann (member); mike tuhill (member); brandon (chair); al fudderman (presenter). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

1. ▶ 1:34:07Recommend that the town waive its right of first refusal on 360 Flat Hill Road. — moved by a member, as heardpassed (roll call: lynn, paula, mike and the chair all voted yes)

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of the october 13th meeting. (▶ 3:11); adjourn. (▶ 2:17:40).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 2 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

1. differsSpecial stabilization fund / land acquisition stabilization fund▶ 2:03:43

   recording Land acquisition stabilization fund: twenty thousand dollars, twenty five thousand dollars

   town’s minutes “chris will offer the suggestion to the finance committee and paula will relay to capital planning.”

   Ours records only dollar figures with no decision; official has no figures but records a follow-up on a stabilization fund. Check the recording around t=7423 for amounts and who does the follow-up.

2. differsTown-owned property list review▶ 1:38:18

   recording The town-owned property list review was continued to the next meeting; it was discussed informally in the meantime.

   town’s minutes “committee members will research these properties further and review other parcels under general municipal ownership for further discussion at the next meeting.”

   Both continue to next meeting; official adds reviewing other municipal parcels. Likely consistent, but check the scope.

Compared 2026-11-03. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

1. ▶ 6:20Forest Legacy program funding

   The federal program is a cost share needing a local match, usually from gifts of land or bargain sales. More money is available this year than in the past.

   as heard:5.9 million dollars75 2520 million dollars

2. ▶ 15:06Forest Legacy reimbursable costs

   Appraisal, legal, survey and baseline report costs can be reimbursed, but only after an award is made.

3. ▶ 36:11Map layer upload fee

   A layer upload outside the regular database update costs a fee, which the member would pay from a recreational trails grant.

   as heard:250

4. ▶ 1:00:35360 Flat Hill Road purchase funding gap

   A sizable amount would still have to be raised beyond a donor's pledge. The purchase price was also stated.

   as heard:half a million dollars plussix hundred thousand dollars

5. ▶ 2:03:43Land acquisition stabilization fund

   A resident and a member discussed a regular annual contribution to a dedicated fund, and the Community Preservation Act as a match source. It would still need town meeting approval to spend.

   as heard:twenty thousand dollarstwenty five thousand dollars

Settled without a vote

• ▶ 27:58The Forest Legacy item stays on the agenda for the next meeting, and members will review the materials and the open space plan land inventory.
• ▶ 55:59The Conservation Commission land use policy forum was noted; no committee action was taken.
• ▶ 1:36:56The chair will send a summary email to the select board and talk further with the donor and the buyer's attorney.
• ▶ 1:38:18The town-owned property list review was continued to the next meeting; it was discussed informally in the meantime.
• ▶ 2:00:56A member will check with the town planner whether drill holes in a stone wall are acceptable as monuments for the 250 Howard Street conveyance.
• ▶ 2:07:36The next meeting is December 15th at 6pm. Members agreed to add an education or workshop topic to future agendas.

Documents and exhibits

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

1. ▶ 47:53A chat comment from a member of the public that any mapping should be compatible with hiking apps.
2. ▶ 2:01:36Suggested a stabilization or dedicated fund so the town can buy land when Chapter 61A withdrawals come up on short deadlines. — a speaker, resident

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

• planning and zoning81 min · 59%
• capital61 min · 45%
• legal41 min · 30%
• grants29 min · 21%
• housing29 min · 21%
• recreation23 min · 16%
• public comment20 min · 15%
• town departments19 min · 14%
• technology18 min · 13%
• policy5 min · 4%

The whole meeting, in order

1. ▶ 0:00Call to order, open meeting notices, roll call, October minutesvoted · 4:14 long
2. ▶ 4:14Forest Legacy program presentation by Nashua River Watershed Associationinformational; continued to next meeting · 29:12 long · grants, housing
3. ▶ 33:26Trails and town-properties GIS map layerinformational; members supportive · 17:36 long · technology, recreation
4. ▶ 51:02Conservation Commission land use policy revision and foruminformational · 4:57 long · policy, recreation
5. ▶ 55:59360 Flat Hill Road Chapter 61A withdrawal and right of first refusalvoted to recommend waiver · 40:57 long · legal, planning and zoning, capital
6. ▶ 1:38:18Review of town-owned property listcontinued to next meeting · 19:28 long · town departments, planning and zoning
7. ▶ 1:57:46Public comment: 250 Howard Street update, land acquisition fund, committee education and partnersinformational · 20:13 long · public comment, capital, planning and zoning
8. ▶ 2:17:59Adjournmentvoted · 0:22 long

What the captions could not carry

• The identity of the donor and the amount of the donation were not disclosed.
• Several speakers' names, and some place names and spellings, were garbled in the captions.
• Whether the first vote on minutes counted every member is unclear; the roll call is only partly captured.
• Roll call for the adjournment shows only three members and the chair.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

• ▶ 2:01:36Land acquisition fundCould the town set aside a dedicated fund to buy land when Chapter 61A rights of first refusal arise?
• ▶ 1:38:18Town-owned land parcelsWhich town-owned parcels are held by the selectmen and could move to conservation or other uses?

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