What was said

Open Space Committee, October 25, 2023

the recording · 1:08 long, about 8,177 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

▶ 29:39The Open Space Committee voted to recommend that the select board transfer two Lake Shirley parcels to the Parks Commission, subject to town meeting approval.
▶ 29:39The vote passed unanimously among members voting; one member's vote was not registered because of technical difficulties.
▶ 12:29Members discussed title, encroachments and hand-launch access for the Parmenter Road and Reservoir Road parcels, including whether clear title would open state park grants.
▶ 13:13A boundary survey of the Reservoir Road parcel was described as expensive and complicated by boundaries muddied during dam work.
▶ 1:06:42The recommendation will go to the select board with draft minutes, and the chair will seek a place on a select board agenda.

Why it matters — our reading

Moving the parcels to the Parks Commission would put public access to Lake Shirley under the body that can apply for park grants, but it needs town meeting approval, which residents would be asked to vote on.
A survey of these parcels could be requested through the capital plan, so the cost of settling the boundaries may come before the town as a capital request.

Watch next

Select board agenda: the chair will ask to be placed on one, possibly with a subgroup of members attending.
Next committee meetings on December 13 (a placeholder that may be cancelled) and January 10, where the draft minutes are to be approved.

grants legal planning and zoning public comment recreation town departments town meeting

Present: Mike Tel (chair); Eric Hines (member); Brandon Kibby (member); Mary Wilson (member); Matthew Allison (member, remote); Anna Lockwood (member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

▶ 29:39Recommend to the select board that care and control of the Parmenter Road and zero Shirley Reservoir Lake parcels be transferred to the Parks Commission, subject to town meeting approval. — moved by Brandon, as heardpassed unanimously among those voting (roll call; one member's vote not registered due to technical difficulties)

And 1 procedural: adjourn the meeting. (▶ 1:07:22).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 5 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 1 substantive difference. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

differsParmenter Road / Shirley Reservoir Lake care and control vote: outcome▶ 29:39
recording Recommend to the select board that care and control of the Parmenter Road and zero Shirley Reservoir Lake parcels be transferred to the Parks Commission, subject to town meeting approval. — passed unanimously among those voting (roll call; one member's vote not registered due to technical difficulties)
town’s minutes “b. kibbe motion: recommend selectboard transfers care and control of 51 parmenter road assessor parcel 136-0006 and 0 shirley reservoir lake”
Same motion, but the official minutes record no outcome or vote count (the result is 'not stated'); check the signed minutes or the video at t=1779 for the tally and the second.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve

Chair name:Mike Tel (chair)→Mike Toohill▶ 0:00
Member Brandon Kibbe:Brandon Kibby (member)→Brandon Kibbe▶ 0:00
Member Ana Lockwood:Anna Lockwood (member)→Ana Lockwood▶ 0:00
Member Eric Hinds:Eric Hines (member)→Eric Hinds▶ 0:00

In one record only: 4 from the recording, 0 from the town’s minutes

Recording only — Potential state grants for park development: Potential state grants for park development: up to $2 million dollars ▶ 12:29
Recording only — Marshall Park survey funding request: Marshall Park survey funding request: $30,000 ▶ 26:52
Recording only — Marshall Park grant and special town meeting article figures: Marshall Park grant and special town meeting article: half a million dollars, $184, a million dollars ▶ 58:49
Recording only — Chair to approach town manager/select board; subgroup may attend: Chair will approach the town manager/select board to get on an agenda, and a subgroup of members may attend rather than the full committee. ▶ 1:05:22

Compared 2026-10-09. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

▶ 12:29Potential state grants for park development
A member said grants may be available from the state if title is clear and the land is developed as a park.
as heard:up to $2 million dollars
▶ 26:52Marshall Park survey funding request
Parks previously requested capital funds for a survey and conceptual design of Marshall; a survey of these parcels could be requested through the capital plan.
as heard:$30,000
▶ 58:49Marshall Park grant and special town meeting article
Parks has a warrant article for special town meeting tied to a park grant application; the select board gave funds for the park.
as heard:half a million dollars$184a million dollars
▶ 13:13Boundary survey of Shirley Reservoir parcel
A boundary survey would be fairly expensive and problematic given muddied boundaries from the dam work.

Settled without a vote

▶ 1:04:41Keep December 13 and January 10 as the next two meeting dates, with December as a placeholder that may be cancelled.
▶ 1:05:22Chair will approach the town manager/select board to get on an agenda, and a subgroup of members may attend rather than the full committee.
▶ 1:06:42The recommendation will be sent to the select board along with draft (unapproved) minutes; minutes to be approved at the next meeting.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

recreation41 min · 61%
legal34 min · 50%
grants24 min · 36%
planning and zoning19 min · 27%
town departments13 min · 19%
personnel9 min · 13%
public comment6 min · 9%
town meeting5 min · 7%

The whole meeting, in order

▶ 0:03Call to order, remote meeting notice, rollinformational · 1:27 long
▶ 1:30Lake Shirley parcels (Parmenter Road and Reservoir Road): title, encroachments, access, grantsdiscussion · 15:32 long · recreation, legal, grants
▶ 17:02Whether to recommend passing the parcels to Parks Commissiondiscussion leading to motion · 12:36 long · recreation, town departments
▶ 29:39Motion and roll call on transfer recommendationvoted · 4:33 long · recreation, town meeting
▶ 34:12Sunny Hill/Leominster Road development, Chapter 61 first refusal debateinformational · 18:34 long · planning and zoning, legal
▶ 52:46Conservation Commission and Parks updates (trail work, grants, staffing, Marshall Park)informational · 8:44 long · grants, recreation, personnel
▶ 1:01:30Public comment, meeting schedule, select board outreach, minutesdates set · 5:52 long · public comment
▶ 1:07:22Adjournmentvoted · 0:48 long

What the captions could not carry

Name of the member who made the motion is not clearly stated; captions suggest Brandon.
Matthew's vote was not registered because of audio problems; one abstention was stated.
Some parcel numbers are garbled in captions.
Dollar figures such as the 184 reauthorization are unreliable.

These are ours, and they are not the record

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