What was said

Parks Commission, October 27, 2021

the recording · 3:28 long, about 27,472 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:59:09The Parks Commission voted to rescind its earlier limit on the size of the Marshall Park skate park.
  2. ▶ 3:14:11The commission accepted changed dates for the Marshall Park master plan RFP and added a May 1 completion date.
  3. ▶ 1:13:12The commission voted to keep the signed November 30 field form date for fall use, extended to cover the porta potty and dumpster.
  4. ▶ 3:24:57Interviews for the master plan RFP are set for the November 17 meeting, with the award decision on November 22.
  5. ▶ 2:32:00Members will attend a Board of Health meeting on November 1 about the Marshall Park septic design flow.

Why it matters — our reading

  • With the size limit rescinded, the skate park can be planned larger than before, and the committee said the final size may be trimmed to match the money raised, so the cost to the town budget is not yet settled.
  • The Marshall Park master plan RFP timeline and the septic design review set what gets designed and permitted for a town park, with public meetings planned for December and January.

Watch next

  • November 22 meeting: conceptual skate park plans at sizes above the old limit, and the master plan RFP award decision.
  • November 1 Board of Health meeting on the Marshall Park septic design flow.

capitalfacilitiesfeesgrantsplanning and zoningpolicypublic commentrecreationtown departments

Present: Chris Sullivan (chair); Dave (member); Anna (member); Karen (member); Rob Thompson (temporary recreation director); Rob Oliver (parks staff); Mr. Roy (Dillon Roy) (presenter, engineer for septic design); Greg (presenter, skate park committee engineer); Anthony (presenter, skate park committee); Carol Archambault (School Committee member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 1:13:12Abide by the November 30 date on the signed field form for this season's fall use, extended to cover porta potty and dumpster. — moved by Chris, as heardpassed
  2. ▶ 1:59:09Rescind the previous vote limiting the Marshall Park skate park size to 5,000 square feet. — moved by Chris, as heardpassed
  3. ▶ 3:14:11Accept the changed RFP dates (decision November 22, public meetings Dec 2, Dec 20, week of Jan 5) and add a May 1 completion date.passed

And 1 procedural: adjourn the meeting. (▶ 3:27:41).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 8 agree, 1 caption error resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsChair of the commission / who chaired▶ 0:00

    recording Chris Sullivan (chair)

    town’s minutes “k. menard arrived at 8pm.”

    Official lists Karin Menard as Chair and Chris Sullivan as Vice Chair; check who chaired, and whether Karen arrived late.

  2. differsNovember 30 cutoff date: decided vs. to be double-checked▶ 1:13:12

    recording Abide by the November 30 date on the signed field form for this season's fall use, extended to cover porta potty and dumpster. — passed

    town’s minutes “was going to double check that date”

    Official has a separate decision that K Menard would double-check the November cutoff date; ours records no such follow-up, so check the recording.

  3. differsWho is Greg Roy / Mr. Roy (Dillon Roy) and who presented▶ 0:00

    recording Mr. Roy (Dillon Roy) (presenter, engineer for septic design); Greg (presenter, skate park committee engineer)

    town’s minutes “a caiozzo and g roy represented the skate park commimee.”

    Official has only Greg Roy on the skate park committee; the 'Dillon Roy' septic engineer and Greg's role as engineer may be a caption confusion, so check.

1 caption error the town’s minutes resolve
  • Member Anna / Ana Lockwood:Anna (member)→Ana Lockwood▶ 0:00
In one record only: 5 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Board of Health Nov 1 meeting on Marshall Park septic design flow: Commission members will attend the Board of Health meeting on November 1 about the Marshall Park septic design flow, and it will be posted as a meeting with someone taking minutes. ▶ 2:32:00
  • Recording only — November 17 RFP interviews and 7 pm schedule: November 17 meeting will be RFP interviews only in 30-minute slots; November 22 will handle the award decision and regular business; both at 7 pm. ▶ 3:24:57
  • Recording only — Powell shed camera and vandalism reporting: A camera at the Powell shed will be discussed as a town matter; the league is asked to report vandalism to the parks chair. ▶ 25:42
  • Recording only — Little League fall fees figure: Little League fall fees: 10 ▶ 1:21:35
  • Recording only — Skate park size vs. budget figures 275 thousand dollars, 8,000 sq ft: Skate park size versus budget: 275 thousand dollars, 8 000 square feet ▶ 1:46:02
  • Town’s minutes only — Beach data comparison report by R Thompson: “r thompson will provide that as soon as possible.”
  • Town’s minutes only — R Thompson to start Little League conversations on baseball: “r thompson stated that he would definitely start those conversaions about limle league”
  • Town’s minutes only — Town Beach repairs and Red Cross reimbursement: “the repairs of the town beach building and will determine by cost whether it is a budget line item”
  • Town’s minutes only — Attendees: Town Manager, beach staff, Little League and Babe Ruth representatives: “manager heather lemieux, jared bowser and genevieve nass from the town beach”

Compared 2026-10-17. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:20:16Red Cross certification reimbursement for swim lessons

    The beach swim instructor pays Red Cross registration out of pocket and is reimbursed slowly. The chair wants the town to pay directly.

  2. ▶ 1:34:29Skate park fundraising and cost

    The skate park committee described cash raised, expected further donations, and in-kind materials. Quotes from designers vary widely and the realistic total was put around a quarter million.

    as heard:90 000120 100 and 130 00025 to 3025 and 50 000225250 000 to 800 000two fifty

  3. ▶ 1:46:02Skate park size versus budget

    The committee said park size may be trimmed to match available funds, with alternates for value engineering.

    as heard:275 thousand dollars8 000 square feet

  4. ▶ 3:20:10Capital planning requests for parks

    A capital request was reported for a complete survey of Marshall Park, and a placeholder for town beach building repairs depending on the estimate.

    as heard:25 00020 000

  5. ▶ 1:05:40Porta potty and dumpster vendor and billing

    Little League changed porta potty vendor and had not yet received a bill; paperwork requirements were discussed.

  6. ▶ 2:08:33Septic design contract savings

    The engineer said topographic survey funds set aside in the contract are not needed because survey was already done.

  7. ▶ 2:41:41School facility use fees

    School Committee policy would charge for lights and excess trash; adult programming revenue versus cost recovery was discussed.

  8. ▶ 1:21:35Little League fall fees

    Parents paid an entry fee to the league and extra money to cover a town fee and a bathroom for the fall season.

    as heard:10

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:49:53The commission will see conceptual skate park plans at the November 22 meeting, at sizes above the previously supported size.
  • ▶ 3:24:57November 17 meeting will be RFP interviews only in 30-minute slots; November 22 will handle the award decision and regular business; both at 7 pm.
  • ▶ 2:32:00Commission members will attend the Board of Health meeting on November 1 about the Marshall Park septic design flow, and it will be posted as a meeting with someone taking minutes.
  • ▶ 2:53:06Karen will research the parks section of the town bylaw and ask the town manager or counsel how it interacts with state law.
  • ▶ 25:42A camera at the Powell shed will be discussed as a town matter; the league is asked to report vandalism to the parks chair.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Form signed by S Chow (vendor/parks usage form)
  • Little League slides on maintenance
  • Septic system plans for Marshall Park
  • Skate Park initial site plan
  • Marshall Park RFP
  • Grading rubric for Marshall Park RFP
  • School Committee policy on reciprocal field use
  • Warrant article on sewer or septic capacity
  • Capital Plan proposals from department heads
  • Email from Steve Archambault on By-Law review

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 15:18Little League slidespresentation, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Little League slides on maintenance”)
  • ▶ 1:11:29field use formother, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“School Committee policy on reciprocal field use”)
  • ▶ 2:07:13septic layout plansplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Septic system plans for Marshall Park”)
  • ▶ 2:06:26RFP for Marshall Park master planother· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Septic system plans for Marshall Park”)
  • ▶ 2:37:33School Committee field use policy draftdraft policy or bylaw· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“School Committee policy on reciprocal field use”)
  • ▶ 2:52:24town bylaw parks sectiondraft policy or bylaw, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 3:23:14parking draft survey planplan or drawing· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 7:00beach pass dataspreadsheet, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 2:10Public comment invited at start; none offered.
  2. ▶ 16:17Little League president reported 2021 field projects, vandalism at Powell shed, registration numbers since 2013, fall season on the 90-foot diamond, and field maintenance requests. — a speaker, Little League president
  3. ▶ 35:54Resident with Babe Ruth coaching experience spoke about communication with Leominster leagues and wanting a quick yes/no on field availability. — a speaker, resident, former coach
  4. ▶ 1:16:14Beach swim lesson instructor reported on the season, registration scanner issues and Red Cross reimbursement. — a speaker, beach staff

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:04Opening, roll call, board commentsinformational · 2:26 long
  2. ▶ 2:30Recreation director update, trunk or treat, director postinginformational · 2:23 long · recreation, personnel
  3. ▶ 4:53Beach season review and pass datainformational · 6:52 long · recreation, fees
  4. ▶ 14:15Little League report, field use, communications, fall datesvoted · 1:00:41 long · recreation, public comment, policy
  5. ▶ 1:14:56Beach director report, Red Cross reimbursementinformational · 9:36 long · recreation, fees
  6. ▶ 1:24:32Skate park committee update, site, size, fundraisingvoted · 42:38 long · recreation, facilities, grants
  7. ▶ 2:07:10Marshall Park septic system designinformational · 27:59 long · facilities, capital
  8. ▶ 2:35:09School Committee field use policyreferred · 16:54 long · policy, fees, recreation
  9. ▶ 2:52:03Town bylaw reviewreferred · 10:09 long · policy
  10. ▶ 3:02:12Marshall Park master plan RFP timelinevoted · 12:41 long · planning and zoning, recreation
  11. ▶ 3:14:53Grants, capital planning report, next meetings, adjournmentvoted · 13:24 long · grants, capital, recreation

What the captions could not carry

  • Mover and seconder of several motions are unclear
  • Exact vote on the field-use-date motion beyond a partial roll call
  • Exact fundraising total figures for skate park are garbled
  • Whether the first roll-call vote's amended motion was formally restated

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 1:34:29Marshall Park redevelopmentWhat will the Marshall Park master plan, skate park and septic system cost and who pays?already answered: thread:tc-passios-site
  • ▶ 2:10:38Park bathroom costsHow large and costly must the Marshall Park septic system be?
  • ▶ 3:20:10Capital planning requestsWhich parks items are on the capital plan?

These are ours, and they are not the record

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What changed

Version 15 — updated September 20, 2026