What was said
Parks Commission, March 27, 2024
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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 2:39:14The Parks Commission moved a ranked list of project-management firms for the park project: Skanska first, NV5 second, Atlantic third.
- ▶ 2:17:43The ranked list goes to the town manager to negotiate a fee, falling back to the next firm if a price cannot be agreed; a result was expected within about a week.
- ▶ 2:24:05Atlantic was named the bottom choice by at least two commissioners during deliberation, before the ranking motion was made.
- ▶ 1:05The commission heard three owner's project manager candidates (Skanska, Atlantic, NV5) and questioned them on ledge, the historic structure, procurement and change orders.
- ▶ 1:31:38The chair said project cost has risen from the original estimate without contingency, and a fall town meeting request for matching funds is planned.
Why it matters — our reading
- The firm chosen will manage a park and ball-field project whose cost has grown, so its fee and its handling of ledge, change orders and procurement bear on how much the town is asked to provide.
- Residents may be asked at a fall town meeting to vote on matching funds for the project, which has so far leaned on grants and ARPA money rather than local taxes.
Watch next
- The town manager's fee negotiation with Skanska, with NV5 as the fallback, expected within about a week of the meeting.
- The fall town meeting request for matching funds for the park project.
capitalcontracts and unionsfacilitiesgrantshiringplanning and zoningrecreationtown meeting
Present: Anna Lockwood (chair); Anita Shyers / Anita Snipers (member); Chris Sullivan (member); Karin Menard (member); Colin Shapiro / K Shabir (member); Chris Ruth (town facilities director); Dale Caldwell (Skanska) (presenter); Tom (Skanska) (presenter); Atlantic president and team (Jennifer, Steve) (presenter); Frank, Ken, Maria Hernandez (NV5) (presenter). 1 of 10 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 2:39:14Rank Skanska first, NV5 second and Atlantic third as the OPM list, with the town manager to negotiate a fee, falling back to the next firm if needed. — moved by a commissioner (unnamed), as heardnot audible
And 1 procedural: adjourn at 9:46. (▶ 2:39:55).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 4 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 1 substantive difference. The town’s minutes are a summary.
recording Anna Lockwood (chair)
town’s minutes “members present: ana lockwood, karin menard, christopher sullivan, colleen shapiro and anita scheipers”
The structured official reading lists Anita Scheipers as Chair and Ana Lockwood as Member, while ours names Lockwood chair. Check the signed minutes or the recording to see who ran the meeting.
4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
- Member Anita Scheipers:Anita Shyers / Anita Snipers (member)→Anita Scheipers▶ 0:00
- Member Karin Menard:Karen Menard / Carard (member)→Karin Menard▶ 0:00
- Member Colleen Shapiro:Colin Shapiro / K Shabir (member)→Colleen Shapiro▶ 0:00
- Skanska presenter Dell Caldwell:Dale Caldwell (Skanska) (presenter)→Dell Caldwell▶ 0:00
In one record only: 6 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Fee negotiation and fallback to next firm: The commission will send a ranked list to the town manager, who will negotiate the contract and fee; NV5 is the fallback if a price cannot be negotiated with Skanska. ▶ 2:17:43
- Recording only — Atlantic named bottom choice in deliberation: Atlantic was named the bottom choice by at least two commissioners during deliberation, before the ranking motion. ▶ 2:24:05
- Recording only — Grants and other funding secured: Grants and other funding secured: 2.6 million, a million dollar Grant ▶ 1:07:01
- Recording only — Cost growth and funding plan: Cost growth and funding plan: 5.2 million, 8.5, $200,000, 500,000 ▶ 1:31:38
- Recording only — Skanska change-order claim example: Skanska change-order claim example: $25,000, $450,000, a million ▶ 37:11
- Recording only — Ledge cost risk: Ledge cost risk: 200 Grand ▶ 19:28
- Town’s minutes only — Plaques to offset costs: “possibility of having plaques with the contractors and sponsors to cut costs”
- Town’s minutes only — Dog park grant funding: “k. menard noted a dog park is earmarked but the grant funding doesn't open until the end of the year.”
- Town’s minutes only — Other Skanska presenters and clerk: “andrea mastrototoro, board clerk, secretary”
Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 3:53Park project construction budget
Skanska noted the identified budget for the project and that its first task would be to firm up schedule and budget.
as heard:$8.5 million
- ▶ 1:07:01Grants and other funding secured
The commission said grants and other sources, including ARPA, have been raised without town tax money, with a water conservation grant as the latest.
as heard:2.6 milliona million dollar Grant
- ▶ 1:08:47Seed funding and matching funds
The town gave seed money for engineering, ARPA funds served as matching funds, and the state granted money for the park.
as heard:$200,000half a million dollars1.5 million
- ▶ 1:31:38Cost growth and funding plan
The chair said the project's cost rose from the original estimate to the current one without contingency, and that a fall town meeting request is planned for matching funds.
as heard:5.2 million8.5$200,000500,000
- ▶ 37:11Skanska change-order claim example
Skanska described reviewing a contractor's mechanical change order for DCAM and estimating it far lower than claimed.
as heard:$25,000$450,000a million
- ▶ 19:28Ledge cost risk
Skanska described ledge costs on a private project growing quickly and said grading to avoid blasting is the aim.
as heard:200 Grand
- ▶ 57:58Procurement structure and cost savings
Atlantic argued for splitting site work and modular building procurement to avoid general contractor markup and double bonding.
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 2:17:43The commission will send a ranked list to the town manager, who will negotiate the contract and fee; a result is expected over the next week or so.
- ▶ 2:39:14Commissioners' stated ranking: Skanska first, NV5 second, Atlantic third, with NV5 as the fallback if a price cannot be negotiated with Skanska.
- ▶ 2:24:05Atlantic was named the bottom choice by at least two commissioners during deliberation, before the ranking motion.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- hiring143 min · 89%
- capital126 min · 78%
- grants83 min · 52%
- contracts and unions60 min · 37%
- facilities5 min · 3%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:02Open meeting law notice, roll call, introductionsinformational · 1:03 long
- ▶ 1:05Skanska presentation and Q&A as OPM candidate (staffing, ledge, historic structure, change orders, cost, procurement)informational · 43:48 long · hiring, capital, contracts and unions
- ▶ 44:53Break between interviews; Atlantic setup and introductionsinformational · 9:49 long
- ▶ 54:42Atlantic presentation: modular building, Chapter 30 versus 149 procurement, phasing, funding, OPM roleinformational · 21:08 long · hiring, capital, grants
- ▶ 1:15:50Informal discussion of the historic structure between interviewsinformational · 4:56 long · facilities
- ▶ 1:20:46NV5 presentation and Q&A (phasing, funding, cost estimating, arsenic soils, historic structure, skate park, conservation commission, document control)informational · 1:00:34 long · hiring, capital, grants
- ▶ 2:21:20Informal conversation on grant covenants and the structure; interviewees leaveinformational · 1:42 long · grants
- ▶ 2:23:02Deliberation on OPM rankingdiscussion leading to motion · 16:12 long · hiring, contracts and unions
- ▶ 2:39:14Motion on ranked list and adjournmentmotion made and seconded; voice vote heard; adjourned · 0:56 long · hiring
What the captions could not carry
- The vote count on the ranking motion is not stated; only a spoken 'hi' chorus is heard.
- The vote on adjournment is not stated.
- The captions between roughly 3582 and 3643 are missing or garbled, during Atlantic's Chapter 30 discussion.
- Speakers are not identified in most Q&A, so who asked which question is unclear.
- Speaker names and firm names are heavily mangled (for example NV5 and Atlantic's president).
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