What was said
Planning Board, December 10, 2018
the recording · 3:36 long, about 28,542 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/planning-board/2018.json
The town published minutes (text), minutes (text), minutes (text) and an agenda, an agenda, an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 1:11:52The Planning Board continued the Powell stone and gravel site plan hearing to its February meeting after voting to accept the waivers as documented.
- ▶ 3:15:41The board voted to recommend the selectmen waive their right of first refusal on the Northfield Road parcel.
- ▶ 1:56:01After long discussion of draft cannabis cultivation rules, the board voted to draft a letter to the Cannabis Control Commission with its questions.
- ▶ 3:03:11The board voted to send a letter of support for the open space plan; a master plan talk with the town manager was deferred to January 14.
- ▶ 14:17The board accepted the Chase Road lot-line swap plan and the Asian Imperial minor change, with a note documenting seats and required parking.
Why it matters — our reading
- The first-refusal recommendation bears on whether the town budget, mostly taxes, takes on a land purchase, and an independent appraisal was said to cost in the tens of thousands.
- The Powell gravel hearing and the cannabis cultivation rules decide what may be built or grown near neighbors and conservation land, and a master plan consultant would be a future capital request competing with requests that far exceed available funds.
Watch next
- Powell site plan hearing resumes at the February meeting, pending Conservation review and a possible zone-line change.
- Master plan discussion with the town manager is set for the January 14 meeting.
capitaleconomic developmentexecutive sessionlegalplanning and zoningpublic commentrecreationtown meetingwarrant article
Present: Mr. Chairman (chair); Karen Chapman (presenter, principal planner, regional planning commission); Adam (town planner / director); Jeff Walsh (presenter, peer review consultant (Graves Engineering)); Brian Marchetti (presenter, civil engineer for applicant); Mitchell (member (roll call)); Mr. Cole (member (roll call)); Mr. brookview (member (roll call)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 2:46Accept the ANR plan for 811/813 Chase Road (lot-line swap).passed
- ▶ 14:17Accept the Asian Imperial de minimis change with a note documenting seats and required parking.passed
- ▶ 1:11:22Accept the waivers as documented for the Powell hearing.passed
- ▶ 1:11:52Continue the Powell hearing to the February meeting (amended).passed
- ▶ 1:56:01Draft a letter to the Cannabis Control Commission with the board's questions.passed
- ▶ 3:03:11Send a letter of support for the open space plan.passed
- ▶ 3:15:41Recommend the selectmen waive their right of first refusal on the Northfield Road parcel.passed
And 3 procedural: accept minutes of 11/26/18. (▶ 2:21:56); accept executive session minutes from 11/26. (▶ 2:23:49); enter executive session to discuss litigation strategy (o'brien homes cases), not to return to regular session. (▶ 3:34:51).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 5 agree, 3 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 6 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.
recording Accept the Asian Imperial de minimis change with a note documenting seats and required parking. — passed
town’s minutes “d. prokowiew made motion to accept the request for a de minimis change with a note added documenting number of seats, k. chenis seconded, all aye.”
Same item and outcome, but ours adds required parking to the note; check the recording for whether parking was in the motion.
recording Accept the waivers as documented for the Powell hearing. — passed; Continue the Powell hearing to the February meeting (amended). — passed
town’s minutes —
Our minutes have two Powell hearing votes that do not appear in the official minutes; check whether the official minutes omitted them.
recording Recommend the selectmen waive their right of first refusal on the Northfield Road parcel. — passed
town’s minutes “to recommend that the board of selectmen waive their right of first refusal, k. chenis seconded, p. bertram, aye; t. cole, aye; k. chenis, aye; d. prokowiew, nay; m. allison, aye.”
Both pass, but the official minutes give a 4-1 roll call with one nay and ours records no split; check the recording.
recording Guidebook printing: twenty or thirty
town’s minutes “mrpc is crafting the guidebook at no expense under dlt a (district local technical assistance).”
Ours heard a printing cost of twenty or thirty while the official minutes say MRPC prepares it at no expense; check whether printing is separate.
recording Master plan discussion with the town manager deferred to the January 14 meeting; board chose not to discuss it without it being on the agenda.
town’s minutes “the board stressed that the master plan comes under the jurisdiction of the planning board and that the board of selectmen should table any discussion of the master plan”
The records describe the decision differently (deferral for the agenda versus a jurisdiction position); check the recording.
recording Planning staff will draft the CCC letter, send questions to town counsel separately.
town’s minutes “transporter questions will be included in the letter to the ccc.”
Ours sends questions to town counsel separately and the official minutes put transporter questions into the CCC letter; check which is right.
3 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
In one record only: 4 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Appraisal for first refusal cost: Appraisal for first refusal: twenty-five to forty thousand dollars ▶ 3:17:02
- Recording only — Capital requests figure: Capital requests: 600,000, 2 something million dollars ▶ 2:24:38
- Recording only — Master plan consultant amount: Master plan consultant: fifty to a hundred ▶ 2:51:26
- Recording only — Jeff Walsh, Brian Marchetti, Mitchell, Mr. brookview: Jeff Walsh (peer review consultant); Brian Marchetti (civil engineer for applicant); Mitchell; Mr. brookview ▶ 0:00
- Town’s minutes only — 380 Electric Avenue ANR plan vote: “d. prokowiew made motion to accept the anr plan as amended, k. chenis seconded, all aye.”
- Town’s minutes only — ROFR packet to Open Space Ad Hoc Committee Chair: “packet will also be provided to the open space ad hoc committee chair.”
- Town’s minutes only — Other attendees: Prokowiew, Chenis, Bertram, Proctor, Gorman, Kim Chen: “plan presented by applicant/property owner jean proctor.”
Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 2:51:26Master plan consultant
A capital item to hire a consultant for the master plan was discussed, with a rough range given.
as heard:fifty to a hundred
- ▶ 3:17:02Appraisal for first refusal
An independent appraisal was said to cost a sum in the tens of thousands.
as heard:twenty-five to forty thousand dollars
- ▶ 2:24:38Capital requests
Capital planning reported requests far exceeding funds available.
as heard:600,0002 something million dollars
- ▶ 17:36Guidebook printing
Printing line money was set aside for a limited number of printed guidebooks.
as heard:twenty or thirty
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 15:47Land use guidebook final to be re-sent for board review before approval.
- ▶ 2:56:33Master plan discussion with the town manager deferred to the January 14 meeting; board chose not to discuss it without it being on the agenda.
- ▶ 2:21:04Planning staff will draft the CCC letter, send questions to town counsel separately.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The minutes print a list, headed documents used at meeting:
:
- Minutes 11/26/18
- Minutes 11/26/18, Executive Session
- ANR Plan, 380 Electric Avenue
- ANR Plan, 811 & 813 Chase Road
- Draft Permitting Guidebook
- Draft Articles
Named in the running text, not in a list:
- Memorandum (recreational marijuana ballot)
- Correspondence from 994 Northfield Road LLC
- Seating schematic (5 Electric Avenue)
In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Minutes 11/26/18; Minutes 11/26/18, Executive Session; ANR Plan, 380 Electric Avenue; ANR Plan, 811 & 813 Chase Road; Draft Articles.
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Public comment
- ▶ 3:22:32A speaker raised the Planning Board's silence on reuse of vacant municipal buildings; discussion followed on economic development and the master plan.
- ▶ 3:31:59A speaker noted the Lunenburg Grange is being rechartered and the 300th anniversary of settlement in December 2018.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- planning and zoning177 min · 83%
- warrant article75 min · 35%
- recreation30 min · 14%
- public comment12 min · 5%
- economic development12 min · 5%
- legal10 min · 5%
- capital9 min · 4%
- town departments9 min · 4%
- town meeting6 min · 3%
- executive session2 min · 1%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 1:18ANR plan, Chase Road lot swapvoted · 2:15 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 4:34Asian Imperial addition and parking countvoted · 10:28 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 15:02Land use guidebookinformational · 3:15 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 18:17Powell stone and gravel site plan hearingcontinued to February · 55:03 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:13:42Marijuana craft cultivator regulationsvoted to send letter to CCC · 1:08:14 long · planning and zoning, warrant article
- ▶ 2:21:56Minutesvoted · 2:20 long
- ▶ 2:24:16Committee reportsinformational · 9:02 long · capital, town departments
- ▶ 2:33:18Open space plan and master planvoted letter of support · 30:16 long · planning and zoning, recreation
- ▶ 3:03:34Marijuana prohibition ballot questionsinformational · 6:23 long · warrant article, town meeting
- ▶ 3:09:57Northfield Road first right of refusalvoted · 7:48 long · planning and zoning, legal
- ▶ 3:18:05Communications and scheduleinformational · 4:27 long
- ▶ 3:22:32Public comment, municipal buildings reuse and Grangeinformational · 11:35 long · public comment, economic development
- ▶ 3:34:07Executive sessionvoted · 1:53 long · executive session, legal
What the captions could not carry
- Results of the minutes votes and the executive session roll call are not clearly in the captions.
- Several members spoke without identification.
Reports this meeting suggests
Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.
- ▶ 2:47:19Master plan fundingHow much would a consultant-written master plan cost and who would lead it?
These are ours, and they are not the record
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