What was said

Planning Board, April 8, 2019

the recording · 1:50 long, about 13,328 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 45:22The Planning Board took no decision on the Sunset Lane common driveway; the applicant withdrew and the board accepted the withdrawal.
  2. ▶ 58:44The board approved a site plan waiver for a coffee roaster at 39 Massachusetts Avenue as presented.
  3. ▶ 1:10:18The board approved a waiver for a pet store at 10 Massachusetts Avenue as presented.
  4. ▶ 1:14:59The stormwater task force said a consultant contract is needed for the state-mandated plan and that no funding source has been set.
  5. ▶ 1:26:43The board scheduled a building reuse discussion for April 29, and set warrant article public hearings, including citizen zoning petitions, for the 22nd.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The stormwater mandate is unfunded, and the options raised, an enterprise fund or a stormwater utility, would put the cost on residents as a fee or a charge, so it may reach a bill or a Town Meeting vote.
  • The withdrawn driveway application leaves the question of access for the Rob's Hill Road and Sunset Lane lots unresolved, and the applicant could return.

Watch next

  • April 29 building reuse discussion, continued to May 13 if needed.
  • Warrant article public hearings on the 22nd, including citizen zoning petitions.

economic developmentfacilitieshousinglegalplanning and zoningpublic commentpublic safetytown departmentstown meetingwarrant articlewater sewer

Present: Chairman (chair); Ken (member); Paulo (member); Tanner (member); Adam (town planner). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 45:22Accept the applicant's withdrawal of the common driveway application.not audible
  2. ▶ 58:44Approve the site plan waiver for 39 Massachusetts Avenue as presented.not audible
  3. ▶ 1:10:18Approve the waiver for 10 Massachusetts Avenue as presented.not audible

And 6 procedural: approve minutes for february 11th (leominster shirley road hearing). (▶ 47:31); approve regular meeting minutes for february 11th, 2019. (▶ 48:12); approve minutes for february 25th as amended. (▶ 48:33); approve general minutes for february 25th, 2019. (▶ 50:10); accept remaining minutes (feb 11 and feb 25 electric hearings, warrant articles public hearing, march 25). (▶ 1:21:06); adjourn. (▶ 1:50:00).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 4 agree, 1 caption error resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsPaula Bertram leaving at 7:20 pm vs. building reuse scheduling so Paulo can attend▶ 1:26:43

    recording Building reuse discussion scheduled for April 29, continued to May 13 if necessary, so Paulo can attend.

    town’s minutes “paula bertram (left 7:20 pm)”

    Official minutes do not record the building reuse scheduling; check the recording and whether the official minutes omit it.

  2. differsWarrant article public hearings on the 22nd▶ 1:38:10

    recording Warrant article public hearings, including citizen zoning petitions, to be held on the 22nd.

    town’s minutes —

    Decision in ours only; check whether official minutes omit it or it was not decided.

  3. differsEconomic development committee appointment deferred▶ 1:46:29

    recording Appointment to the new economic development committee deferred to the board's reorganization.

    town’s minutes —

    Decision in ours only; official minutes do not mention it. Check the recording.

1 caption error the town’s minutes resolve
  • Attendee Paulo (member):Paulo (member)→Paula Bertram▶ 0:00
In one record only: 1 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Stormwater management consultant contract figure: Stormwater management consultant contract: 60 something thousand dollars ▶ 1:14:59
  • Town’s minutes only — Open Space Ad Hoc Committee representatives: “brandon kibbe and p. bertram will represent the open space ad hoc committee and the planning board.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Land Acquisition Committee representative replaced: “will represent the planning board on the committee instead of t. cole.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Earth Removal Permitting scheduled for summer: “earth removal permitting- tentatively scheduled for discussion this upcoming summer.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Non-board participants: applicants and representative: “neil gorman, david e. ross associates represented the applicant/property owner.”

Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:14:59Stormwater management consultant contract

    The task force said the consultant contract for the stormwater plan, notice of intent and year-one requirements would not exceed a figure in the sixty-thousands, and that a funding source is needed.

    as heard:60 something thousand dollars

  2. ▶ 1:15:40Stormwater funding source

    The unfunded state mandate may be paid through an enterprise fund or a stormwater utility, neither popular with citizens.

  3. ▶ 1:49:21Master plan funding

    Master plan money depends on the capital plan at Town Meeting, then a grant application at the end of May.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:26:43Building reuse discussion scheduled for April 29, continued to May 13 if necessary, so Paulo can attend.
  • ▶ 1:38:10Warrant article public hearings, including citizen zoning petitions, to be held on the 22nd.
  • ▶ 1:46:29Appointment to the new economic development committee deferred to the board's reorganization.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed documents used at meeting::

  • 205 Sunset Lane Driveway Plan
  • 39 Massachusetts Avenue Waiver Request
  • 10 Massachusetts Avenue Waiver Request
  • Minutes: 02/11/19, 190 Electric Avenue
  • Minutes: 02/11/19, 380-400 Electric Avenue
  • Minutes: 02/11/19, 400 Electric Avenue
  • Minutes: 02/11/19, 151-181 Leominster Shirley Road
  • Minutes: 02/11/19
  • Minutes: 02/25/19
  • Minutes: 02/25/19, 190 Electric Avenue
  • Minutes: 02/25/19, 380-400 Electric Avenue
  • Minutes: 02/25/19, Town Meeting Warrant Article
  • Minutes: 03/25/19

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • ANR Plan (originally submitted for 205 Sunset Lane)
  • Presentation prepared for Town Meeting (Charter Review Committee)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 0:58Sunset Lane common driveway planplan or drawing, shown· in the minutes’ list (“205 Sunset Lane Driveway Plan”)
  • ▶ 4:33email from fire chiefletter or email· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 52:25parking plan for 39 Mass Aveplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:01:23blueprints for 10 Mass Ave parkingplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:31:37attorney draft of article 5.6warrant article· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: 39 Massachusetts Avenue Waiver Request; 10 Massachusetts Avenue Waiver Request; Minutes: 02/11/19, 190 Electric Avenue; Minutes: 02/11/19, 380-400 Electric Avenue; Minutes: 02/11/19, 400 Electric Avenue; Minutes: 02/11/19, 151-181 Leominster Shirley Road; Minutes: 02/11/19; Minutes: 02/25/19; Minutes: 02/25/19, 190 Electric Avenue; Minutes: 02/25/19, 380-400 Electric Avenue; Minutes: 02/25/19, Town Meeting Warrant Article; Minutes: 03/25/19.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 0:12Chair asked for public comment; none offered.
  2. ▶ 1:11:29A Howard Street neighbour asked about the coming development hearing on April 29 and whether he would get notice; told abutters within 500 feet get a letter.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:12Public commentnone offered · 0:21 long · public comment
  2. ▶ 0:33205 Sunset Lane common driveway planapplication withdrawn · 45:10 long · planning and zoning, public safety
  3. ▶ 45:43Approval of minutesvoted · 4:37 long
  4. ▶ 50:20Open space land acquisition updateinformational · 1:02 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 51:2239 Mass Ave coffee roaster site plan waivervoted · 7:58 long · planning and zoning, economic development
  6. ▶ 59:2010 Mass Ave pet store waivervoted · 11:40 long · planning and zoning, economic development
  7. ▶ 1:11:00Howard Street development noticeinformational · 3:17 long · public comment, housing
  8. ▶ 1:14:17Committee reports and open space appointmentinformational · 6:49 long · water sewer, planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:21:06Remaining minutesvoted · 2:50 long
  10. ▶ 1:23:56Building reuse discussion schedulingscheduled · 5:53 long · facilities, town meeting
  11. ▶ 1:29:49Director items: bylaws, 40B, solar, parking, economic developmentinformational · 20:11 long · planning and zoning, housing, economic development

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote counts were mostly not stated beyond 'all in favor'.
  • Stretch around 3560-3620 is garbled with applause markers.
  • Minutes motions were confused by mismatched dates and are hard to separate.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 1:14:59Stormwater program costsWhat will the stormwater plan cost and how will it be funded?already answered: thread:stormwater-fee
  • ▶ 1:49:21Master plan fundingWill the master plan be funded through the capital plan and a grant?

These are ours, and they are not the record

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What changed

Version 15 — updated September 20, 2026