What was said
Planning Board, March 9, 2020
the recording · 3:40 long, about 27,197 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/planning-board/2020.json
The town published minutes (text), minutes (text) and an agenda, an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 33:10The Planning Board voted to deny the applicant's request to waive site plan review for the earth removal at 1325 Mass Ave.
- ▶ 33:50The applicant is to receive a list of board concerns through the planner, and a site plan hearing is set for April 13th.
- ▶ 57:42The board voted to continue the stormwater hearing for 1325 Mass Ave to March 23rd.
- ▶ 1:08:59After a long public forum on the earth removal bylaw, the board voted to add the word native to the definition of earth.
- ▶ 3:16:53The stormwater bylaw will not go to this Town Meeting, and two earth removal articles will be submitted without the regulations.
Why it matters — our reading
- The earth removal bylaw would set the threshold, setbacks and permit process for homeowners and contractors moving soil, and speakers raised concerns about permit and engineering costs.
- Town Meeting voters are likely to be asked to act on the earth removal articles, which will be presented without the detailed regulations, and the stormwater bylaw will wait for a later meeting.
Watch next
- March 23rd: continued stormwater hearing for 1325 Mass Ave.
- April 13th: site plan hearing for the 1325 Mass Ave applicant.
legalplanning and zoningpublic commenttown meetingwarrant articlewater sewer
Present: Paula (member); Adam (town planner); Mrs. Bertram (member); Tanner (presenter). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 33:10Deny the waiver of site plan review for 1325 Mass Ave.passed
- ▶ 57:42Continue the stormwater hearing for 1325 Mass Ave to March 23rd at 6:35.passed
- ▶ 1:08:59Add the word native to the definition of earth in the bylaw.passed
- ▶ 2:39:11Recommend the Selectmen not exercise first refusal on 322 Flat Hill Road.passed
- ▶ 2:40:47Recommend not exercising first refusal on 57 and 63 Cross Road.passed
- ▶ 3:01:11Send a letter to the Selectmen and landowner raising concerns about the Holman Street parcel, and involve Town Council.passed
And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of 2/24/20. (▶ 3:19:38); adjourn. (▶ 3:40:16).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 5 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 4 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.
recording Send a letter to the Selectmen and landowner raising concerns about the Holman Street parcel, and involve Town Council. — passed
town’s minutes “p. bertram made motion that such letter be sent to both the select board and the land owner, t. cole seconded”
Same letter, but the official text printed here shows no vote result or Town Counsel amendment (the structured summary mentions it); also the parcel is named Holman Street in ours and Tract A in the official summary. Check the full official text for the amendment, the outcome and the parcel.
recording Board will leave existing earth removal permits to the waiver process and keep the bylaw as is apart from adding native.
town’s minutes “the board will plan on reviewing the r&r to ensure an up to date draft will be available for citizens to view at town meeting when the bylaw”
Ours says the bylaw is kept as is and permits are left to the waiver process; the official says the Board will review the Rules and Regulations for a current draft before Town Meeting. Check the recording and the full official text.
recording Stormwater bylaw will not go to this Town Meeting; two earth removal articles will be submitted without the regulations.
town’s minutes “discussion to continue.”
Ours records a decision that the stormwater bylaw will not go to this Town Meeting; the official only says discussion continues. Check whether a decision was made.
recording Paula (member); Adam (town planner); Mrs. Bertram (member); Tanner (presenter)
town’s minutes “present: matthew allison, tanner cole, paula bertram, adam r. burney”
Paula and Mrs. Bertram are likely the same person (Paula Bertram); Tanner is Vice Chair Tanner Cole, not a presenter. Ours omits Chair Matthew Allison; the official lists Marisa Thompson absent.
In one record only: 3 from the recording, 1 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Continuance of stormwater hearing for 1325 Mass Ave to March 23rd: Continue the stormwater hearing for 1325 Mass Ave to March 23rd at 6:35. — passed ▶ 57:42
- Recording only — Site plan hearing set for April 13th with bullet list of concerns: Applicant to receive a bullet list of board concerns via the planner; site plan hearing set for April 13th. ▶ 33:50
- Recording only — Master plan funding $80,000: Master plan funding: $80,000 ▶ 3:37:38
- Town’s minutes only — Howard Street & West Townsend Road recommendation not made: “board was unable to discuss and recommend as a member was absent and one of”
Compared 2026-11-04. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 1:16:05Earth removal permit cost
Speakers worried about permit and engineering costs for homeowners.
as heard:tens of thousands of dollars
- ▶ 3:37:38Master plan funding
A member noted the board had held back on an additional request until progress was shown.
as heard:$80,000
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 33:50Applicant to receive a bullet list of board concerns via the planner; site plan hearing set for April 13th.
- ▶ 2:34:47Board will leave existing earth removal permits to the waiver process and keep the bylaw as is apart from adding native.
- ▶ 3:16:53Stormwater bylaw will not go to this Town Meeting; two earth removal articles will be submitted without the regulations.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The minutes print a list, headed documents used at meeting:
:
- Earth Removal Bylaw
- Earth Removal Rules and Regulations
- Removal from Chapter, 332 Flat Hill Road
- Removal from Chapter, 57 & 63 Cross Road
- Removal from Chapter, Tract A, Holman Street & Northfield Road
- Removal from Chapter, Howard Street & West Townsend Road
- Stormwater Bylaw – DRAFT
- Minutes, 02.24.2020
- TC Passios & Brooks House Conceptual Plan dated 04.05.16
Named in the running text, not in a list:
- Building Commissioner's letter dated March 2, 2020
- Applicant's detailed letter dated February 20, 2020
- Purchase and Sale Agreement (‘P&S’) for Tract A
- Earth Removal Permit
Heard in the recording
- ▶ 1:25the waiver request letterletter or email· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 25:47building commissioner's letter dated March 2nd 2020letter or email· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Building Commissioner's letter dated March 2, 2020”)
- ▶ 58:24earth removal presentationpresentation, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Earth Removal Permit”)
- ▶ 3:04:08stormwater bylaw draft with consultant commentsdraft policy or bylaw, shown· in the minutes’ list (“Stormwater Bylaw – DRAFT”)
In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Earth Removal Bylaw; Earth Removal Rules and Regulations; Removal from Chapter, 332 Flat Hill Road; Removal from Chapter, 57 & 63 Cross Road; Removal from Chapter, Tract A, Holman Street & Northfield Road; Removal from Chapter, Howard Street & West Townsend Road; Minutes, 02.24.2020; TC Passios & Brooks House Conceptual Plan dated 04.05.16.
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Public comment
- ▶ 1:12:11Resident says the 1500 cubic yard threshold is too low and permit cost and length burden homeowners. — mark verse 20 Buttonwood place, as heard
- ▶ 1:27:23Question on how renewals of existing earth removal permits work under the new bylaw.
- ▶ 1:41:05Contractor says offsets and setbacks are too restrictive for residential lots. — Bob Proctor 99 Pleasant Street, as heard
- ▶ 1:51:54Contractor says the regulations are too many and should be simplified. — Jonah Esposito, as heard
- ▶ 2:06:32Resident urges a workable replacement because the current ten-yard bylaw is not being followed. — Katie Adams Peninsula Drive, as heard
- ▶ 2:28:13Suggests presenting the bylaw article separately from the regulations at Town Meeting. — Tom Alonso 284 Lancaster Avenue, as heard
- ▶ 3:38:30Asks for formal input from town staff on how the current bylaw would be enforced if the new one fails. — Katie Adams, as heard
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- planning and zoning181 min · 83%
- warrant article113 min · 52%
- public comment97 min · 44%
- water sewer40 min · 19%
- town departments21 min · 9%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:00Site plan waiver request, 1325 Mass Avewaiver denied · 33:50 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 34:12Stormwater permit hearing, 1325 Mass Avecontinued · 23:52 long · planning and zoning, water sewer
- ▶ 58:04Public forum on earth removal bylawnative added; concerns noted · 1:36:43 long · planning and zoning, warrant article, public comment
- ▶ 2:36:18Chapter 61 right of first refusalvoted · 26:25 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 3:03:05Stormwater bylaw draftdeferred · 16:33 long · warrant article, water sewer
- ▶ 3:19:38Minutes, committee reports, TCP land, noticesinformational · 20:38 long · town departments
What the captions could not carry
- Vote counts were not stated.
- Results of minutes approval and adjournment not captured.
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