What was said
Planning Board, July 13, 2020
the recording · 2:01 long, about 13,645 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/planning-board/2020.json
The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 11:19The Planning Board elected a chair, vice chair and clerk by roll call, with two new members seated.
- ▶ 1:12:57The board accepted the withdrawal of a common driveway application at 68 Elm Street after members said it did not meet the bylaw.
- ▶ 1:03:48The applicant is to redraw the driveway to straddle the lot line, which needs no further Planning Board approval.
- ▶ 1:21:39The board made appointments to the Economic Development Committee and the Open Space committee, and to town-wide committees such as capital planning and stormwater.
- ▶ 1:56:01The stormwater bylaw changes stayed on the ongoing agenda so the new members can review them before fall Town Meeting.
Why it matters — our reading
- A redrawn driveway that straddles the lot line skips Planning Board review, so a neighbor on Elm Street would get no public hearing on it.
- The stormwater bylaw changes may reach fall Town Meeting, where residents would be asked to vote on them.
Watch next
- Planning Board review of the stormwater bylaw changes ahead of fall Town Meeting.
- A meeting of the Open Space committee, which the board wants held as soon as possible.
legalpersonnelplanning and zoningpolicypublic commentwater sewer
Present: Matthew Allison (chair); Tanner Cole (member (vice chair elected)); Paulette Bertram (member (clerk elected)); Matthew Brenner (member); Eric Torgerson (member, remote); Adam Burnie (staff (town planner)); Brian Marchetti (presenter (engineer, Accardi Engineering)); Jacqueline (JC) Nichol (presenter (Economic Development Committee applicant)); Kathy Clark (presenter (Economic Development Committee applicant)); Lynn Mann (presenter (Open Space applicant)); Michael Cohill (presenter (Open Space applicant)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 11:19Nominate Matthew Allison as chair — moved by a member, as heardpassed (roll call, all ayes heard)
- ▶ 12:19Nominate the vice chair (Cole) by roll callpassed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 13:26Nominate Paulette Bertram as clerkpassed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 24:41Nominate Matthew Brenner to MRPCpassed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 27:30Appoint a member to MJTC (Brenner)passed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 30:04Appoint Eric Jorgensen to capital planning committee — moved by a member, as heardpassed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 31:38Appoint Paula Bertram to open space ad hoc committeepassed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 32:19Appoint Matthew Allison to stormwater task forcepassed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 33:03Appoint Mr. Cole to TCP building design committeepassed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 1:12:57Accept withdrawal of the common driveway application at 68 Elm Street — moved by a member, as heardpassed (three eligible members voting)
- ▶ 1:21:39Appoint JC Nichol (one-year) and Kathy Clark (two-year) to Economic Development Committeepassed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 1:30:14Appoint Lynn Mann and Michael Cohill to the Open Space committeepassed (roll call, ayes heard)
And 3 procedural: approve june 22, 2020 regular meeting minutes (▶ 1:32:05); approve second set of minutes from june 22 (▶ 1:33:06); adjourn (▶ 2:00:20).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 9 agree, 3 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 5 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.
recording Appoint Eric Jorgensen to capital planning committee — passed (roll call, ayes heard)
town’s minutes “t. cole made motion for matthew allison; motion not seconded.”
The official minutes show a motion for Allison that died for lack of a second, then Erik Torgersen appointed 4-0. Ours has a single vote passing. Jorgensen is probably a misheard Torgersen, but check the recording for the failed Allison motion.
recording Accept withdrawal of the common driveway application at 68 Elm Street — passed (three eligible members voting)
town’s minutes “p. bertram made motion to accept the withdrawal of the common driveway at 68 elm street, t. cole seconded”
The vote is the same, but our decision says the applicant will redraw the driveway to straddle the lot line with no further Planning Board approval. The official minutes record no such decision, so check the recording.
recording Appoint Lynn Mann and Michael Cohill to the Open Space committee — passed (roll call, ayes heard)
town’s minutes “lynne man and michael toohill to the open space committee, t. cole seconded”
Both record the appointments passing. The official minutes give the count as 5-0 although only 4 members voted on the other appointments. Check who voted. The names are caption variants (Lynne Man, Michael Toohill).
recording Agricultural commission liaison position to be dropped as a formal appointment; reports to come through committee reports
town’s minutes “board consensus was not to vote on this position.”
The official minutes say the Board reached consensus not to vote, because Allison is Chair. Ours says the position is dropped as a formal appointment. Check whether the position was eliminated or only not voted on.
recording Brian Marchetti (presenter (engineer, Accardi Engineering))
town’s minutes “brian marchetti, mccarty engineering, represented the applicant ron koivu, harbor classic homes, llc.”
The firm differs: Accardi in ours, McCarty in the official minutes. Check the recording or the application.
3 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
- Economic Development Committee appointees:Appoint JC Nichol (one-year) and Kathy Clark (two-year) to Economic Development Committee — passed (roll call, ayes heard)→JC Nicoll and Cathy Clark▶ 1:21:39
- Attendee Erik Torgersen:Eric Torgerson (member)→Erik Torgersen▶ 0:00
- Attendee Adam Burney:Adam Burnie (staff (town planner))→Adam Burney▶ 0:00
In one record only: 4 from the recording, 2 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Capital planning committee figure: Capital planning committee: ten thousand dollars ▶ 17:37
- Recording only — TCP building design figure: TCP building design: 200,000 ▶ 19:43
- Recording only — MRPC cloud migration costs: MRPC cloud migration: $1,500, $300 a month ▶ 1:39:12
- Recording only — Staff to tell open space chair to meet soon: Staff to tell the open space chair the board wants the committee to meet as soon as possible ▶ 1:31:22
- Town’s minutes only — Torgersen appointed to Capital Planning Committee: “p. bertram made motion for erik torgersen, m. brenner seconded.”
- Town’s minutes only — Conservation Commission trail map grant: “the conservation commission received a grant to install maps at trail intersections”
Compared 2026-11-03. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 17:37Capital planning committee
Described as ranking capital items with a life of five years above a stated value, and recommending them to selectmen and Town Meeting.
as heard:ten thousand dollars
- ▶ 19:43TCP building design
The town allocated money for a preliminary design and cost estimate for converting the former school to town offices.
as heard:200,000
- ▶ 1:37:03TCP project funding path
A member said the project would likely need an override on a ballot if it reached fall Town Meeting.
- ▶ 1:39:12MRPC cloud migration
MRPC's move to the cloud would cost an upfront amount and save monthly vendor subscription costs.
as heard:$1,500$300 a month
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 9:10Board reorganization for committee appointments deferred earlier; officers then elected the same night
- ▶ 35:09Agricultural commission liaison position to be dropped as a formal appointment; reports to come through committee reports
- ▶ 1:03:48Applicant to redraw the 68 Elm Street driveway to straddle the lot line, which needs no further Planning Board approval
- ▶ 1:56:01Stormwater bylaw kept on ongoing agenda items so new members can review it before fall Town Meeting
- ▶ 1:31:22Staff to tell the open space chair the board wants the committee to meet as soon as possible
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The minutes print a list, headed documents used at meeting:
:
- Minutes 06.22.2020
- Minutes 06.22.2020, 190 Electric Avenue
- 68 Elm Street, Common Drive Plan
- Talent Bank Forms (Michael Toohill, Lynne Man, Cathy Clark, Jaclynn Nicoll)
- Stormwater and Storm Sewers Bylaw, DRAFT
Named in the running text, not in a list:
- Building Commissioner’s letter dated July 1, 2020 (on file in the Planning Office)
Heard in the recording
- ▶ 14:07planning board reorganization chartother, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Building Commissioner’s letter dated July 1, 2020 (on file in the Planning Office)”)
- ▶ 39:18letter from the Building Commissionerletter or email, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Building Commissioner’s letter dated July 1, 2020 (on file in the Planning Office)”)
- ▶ 1:14:05talent bank formsapplication or permit, shown· in the minutes’ list (“Talent Bank Forms (Michael Toohill, Lynne Man, Cathy Clark, Jaclynn Nicoll)”)
- ▶ 1:32:05June 22nd 2020 minutesprior minutes, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 1:40:36updated stormwater bylawdraft policy or bylaw, shown· in the minutes’ list (“Stormwater and Storm Sewers Bylaw, DRAFT”)
In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Minutes 06.22.2020; Minutes 06.22.2020, 190 Electric Avenue; 68 Elm Street, Common Drive Plan.
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Public comment
- ▶ 9:31Call for public comment not on the agenda; a caller on the phone said he was present and ready.
- ▶ 37:03Second call for public comment; no hands raised.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- planning and zoning58 min · 48%
- legal52 min · 43%
- personnel46 min · 38%
- policy33 min · 27%
- water sewer16 min · 13%
- economic development13 min · 11%
- town departments6 min · 5%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:00Roll call and remote meeting ground rulesinformational · 4:30 long
- ▶ 4:30Board reorganization timing discussionofficers elected anyway later · 5:01 long · policy
- ▶ 9:31Election of officers and committee appointmentsvoted · 27:32 long · personnel, policy
- ▶ 37:03Common driveway at 68 Elm Streetapplicant withdrew · 36:41 long · planning and zoning, legal
- ▶ 1:13:44Economic Development Committee appointmentsvoted · 12:54 long · economic development, personnel
- ▶ 1:26:38Open Space committee appointmentsvoted · 5:07 long · personnel, planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:31:45Approval of minutesvoted · 2:04 long
- ▶ 1:33:49Committee reportsinformational · 6:06 long · town departments
- ▶ 1:39:55Director's items: Electric Avenue monitor and stormwater bylawno vote; kept on agenda · 15:45 long · planning and zoning, water sewer, legal
- ▶ 1:55:40Next meeting, board comments, adjournmentadjourned · 5:21 long
What the captions could not carry
- Some roll call votes have names and responses garbled, so exact counts are not clear.
- Parts of the driveway discussion around 3700 to 3800 seconds were broken up by connection trouble.
- Who made some motions and seconds is not clear.
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