What was said

Planning Board, August 24, 2020

the recording · 3:50 long, about 28,434 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text), minutes (text) and an agenda, an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 3:36:02The Planning Board voted to recommend that the Board of Selectmen seek to acquire 250 Howard Street; the roll call as heard shows four members in favor.
  2. ▶ 12:10The board endorsed ANR plans for 27 The Clearing and 524 Northfield Road, each 5-0, and for 300 Holman Street West, 4-0.
  3. ▶ 1:25:48The scenic road and shared driveway hearing on Northfield Road was continued to 14 September, 5-0; the applicant is to return with one engineered plan.
  4. ▶ 3:14:44The director is to investigate legal limits and draft changes to the ANR process, including Board of Health input and dropping the abutters list, for 14 September.
  5. ▶ 2:45:29The board heard a Bright Farms pre-submission and abutter complaints about the 1325 Mass Ave berm; no vote was taken, and a future agenda item on drafting decisions is planned.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The 250 Howard Street recommendation goes to the Select Board, and a purchase of town land could mean a spending vote or a use decision for residents.
  • Changes to the ANR process, such as Board of Health input or dropping the abutters list, would change how lot divisions are reviewed and who is notified of them near a resident's property.
  • The Bright Farms greenhouse proposal touches local jobs and sewer capacity, and a member noted that an earlier sewer agreement may have expired.

Watch next

  • 14 September: the continued scenic road and shared driveway hearing, with the engineered plan, and the director's draft ANR process changes.
  • The stormwater bylaw low impact development language is on the 14 September agenda; the rules and regulations workshop moves to October.

economic developmentlegalplanning and zoningpolicypublic commenttown departmentswater sewer

Present: Adam (Bernie) (land use director / planning director); Matthew Allison (chair); Paula Bertram (member); Tanner Cole (member); Matthew Brenner (member); Eric Torgerson (member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 12:10Endorse the ANR plan for 27 The Clearingpassed 5-0 by roll call
  2. ▶ 27:37Approve the ANR plan for 524 Northfield Roadpassed 5-0 by roll call
  3. ▶ 42:56Approve the ANR for 300 Holman Street Westpassed 4-0 by roll call (the roll call shows Cole, Brenner, Torgerson and the chair)
  4. ▶ 1:25:48Continue the scenic road public hearing to 14 September at 6:35 — moved by Mr. Brenner, as heardpassed 5-0 by roll call
  5. ▶ 3:36:02Recommend that the Board of Selectmen seek to acquire 250 Howard Streetpassed; roll call as heard shows Cole, Bertram, Torgerson and the chair in favor

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of 10 august 2020 (▶ 3:20:39); adjourn (▶ 3:49:55).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 5 agree, 2 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 5 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a summary.

  1. differsEndorse ANR plan for 27 The Clearing, 5-0 roll call▶ 12:10

    recording Endorse the ANR plan for 27 The Clearing — passed 5-0 by roll call

    town’s minutes —

    Official minutes record no votes; check the full official minutes or the recording for this ANR vote.

  2. differsApprove ANR plan for 524 Northfield Road, 5-0▶ 27:37

    recording Approve the ANR plan for 524 Northfield Road — passed 5-0 by roll call

    town’s minutes —

    Official minutes record no vote; check whether it was taken and recorded elsewhere.

  3. differsApprove ANR for 300 Holman Street West, 4-0▶ 42:56

    recording Approve the ANR for 300 Holman Street West — passed 4-0 by roll call (the roll call shows Cole, Brenner, Torgerson and the chair)

    town’s minutes —

    Official minutes record no vote; check the recording for this ANR vote and why only four members voted.

  4. differsContinue scenic road hearing to 14 September at 6:35▶ 1:25:48

    recording Continue the scenic road public hearing to 14 September at 6:35 — passed 5-0 by roll call

    town’s minutes —

    Official minutes record no continuance vote; check the official record.

  5. differsRecommend Selectmen acquire 250 Howard Street▶ 3:36:02

    recording Recommend that the Board of Selectmen seek to acquire 250 Howard Street — passed; roll call as heard shows Cole, Bertram, Torgerson and the chair in favor

    town’s minutes —

    A substantive vote is missing from the official minutes; check the recording to confirm the vote and who voted.

2 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Attendee Torgerson spelling:Eric Torgerson (member)→Erik Torgersen▶ 0:00
  • Land use director name:Adam (Bernie) (land use director / planning director)→Adam R. Burney▶ 0:00
In one record only: 11 from the recording, 1 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — 250 Howard Street purchase price: 250 Howard Street purchase price: fifty thousand dollars, three thousand dollars per acre ▶ 3:28:31
  • Recording only — Bright Farms jobs and wages: Bright Farms jobs and wages: 60 employees, north of 40 000, 110 or 120 employees ▶ 1:31:28
  • Recording only — Bright Farms sewer capacity: Sewer capacity for the Bright Farms site: 29 000 gallons a day, 2 000 to 3 000 gallons a day ▶ 1:40:56
  • Recording only — Value of a new building lot: Value of a new building lot: forty thousand dollars, 65 to 120 ▶ 3:09:52
  • Recording only — Public comment practice decision: Board will keep its current public comment practice, with no agenda item to change it. ▶ 8:38
  • Recording only — Shared driveway plan to fire chief: Director to send the shared driveway plan to the fire chief, and the board hopes for Board of Health feedback. ▶ 1:22:39
  • Recording only — ANR process changes for 14 September: Director to investigate legal limits and draft changes to the ANR process, including Board of Health input and dropping the abutters list, for the 14 September meeting. ▶ 3:14:44
  • Recording only — Decision-drafting process: A future agenda item on decision-drafting process and standard conditions. ▶ 2:52:45
  • Recording only — Drafting decisions for later vote: Board leaned toward drafting decisions and voting on them at a later meeting, with decisions placed in the packet and agenda. ▶ 2:36:36
  • Recording only — Rules and regulations workshop moved to October: Rules and regulations workshop moved to October; 14 September will cover the ANR draft. ▶ 3:37:24
  • Recording only — Low impact development language in stormwater bylaw: Director to put the low impact development language in the stormwater bylaw on the 14 September agenda. ▶ 3:46:35
  • Town’s minutes only — Applicant representative Ed McSweeney: “the applicant bray ave 9, llc was represented by ed mcsweeney.”

Compared 2026-11-03. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 3:28:31250 Howard Street purchase price

    The parcel under Chapter 61 right of first refusal is offered at a price roughly equal to the per-acre price paid for the Saliva parcel. The board called it below agricultural market value.

    as heard:fifty thousand dollarsthree thousand dollars per acre

  2. ▶ 1:31:28Bright Farms jobs and wages

    The applicant said the greenhouse would employ about 60 people at competitive wages, rising with a second phase.

    as heard:60 employeesnorth of 40 000110 or 120 employees

  3. ▶ 1:40:56Sewer capacity for the Bright Farms site

    The applicant cited an earlier sewer capacity agreement for the site and expects far lower use. A member cautioned that the earlier agreement may have expired.

    as heard:29 000 gallons a day2 000 to 3 000 gallons a day

  4. ▶ 3:09:52Value of a new building lot

    Members noted that a new lot is worth a lot relative to the cost of an engineered plan.

    as heard:forty thousand dollars65 to 120

  5. ▶ 3:36:44Master plan population study

    The contract for the population study is going back to the Donahue Center, with results expected before year end.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 8:38Board will keep its current public comment practice, with no agenda item to change it.
  • ▶ 1:14:42Applicant to return on 14 September with one engineered plan showing measured driveway locations and stone walls for the Brightman driveway and the shared driveway for lots 1 and 5.
  • ▶ 1:22:39Director to send the shared driveway plan to the fire chief, and the board hopes for Board of Health feedback.
  • ▶ 3:14:44Director to investigate legal limits and draft changes to the ANR process, including Board of Health input and dropping the abutters list, for the 14 September meeting.
  • ▶ 2:52:45A future agenda item on decision-drafting process and standard conditions.
  • ▶ 2:36:36Board leaned toward drafting decisions and voting on them at a later meeting, with decisions placed in the packet and agenda.
  • ▶ 3:37:24Rules and regulations workshop moved to October; 14 September will cover the ANR draft.
  • ▶ 3:46:35Director to put the low impact development language in the stormwater bylaw on the 14 September agenda.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed documents used at meeting::

  • Scenic Road Application

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • ANR Plan for 524 Northfield Road

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 33:20the scenic road planplan or drawing, shown· in the minutes’ list (“Scenic Road Application”)
  • ▶ 41:12plan of lots prepared by zarc on august 7 2020plan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:04:40the abutters' emailletter or email, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:07:57the july 20th letterletter or email, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:11:36the site plan decisionother, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 3:15:47subdivision rules and regulationsdraft policy or bylaw, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 3:37:24draft rules and regulationsdraft policy or bylaw, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 3:26A member asked how public comment is handled, whether limited to non-agenda items. The board kept its current practice.
  2. ▶ 2:45:29An abutter of 1325 Mass Ave said they wrote to the planning board, the building commissioner and the select board about the berm, and felt unheard at the select board meeting. — a speaker, abutter

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Roll call and meeting remote-participation announcementinformational · 3:26 long
  2. ▶ 3:26How public comment is takenno change · 5:24 long · public comment, policy
  3. ▶ 8:50ANR plan, 27 The Clearingvoted, endorsed · 5:00 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 13:50ANR plan, 524 Northfield Road, and Board of Health feedbackvoted, approved · 15:10 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 29:00ANR plan, 300 Holman Street Westvoted, approved · 14:40 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 43:40Scenic road and shared driveway hearing, Northfield Roadcontinued to 14 September · 43:00 long · planning and zoning, public safety
  7. ▶ 1:26:40Bright Farms pre-submission discussion, 361 Mass Aveinformational · 31:55 long · economic development, water sewer, planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:58:351325 Mass Ave berm complaint and decision-drafting processno vote; future agenda item planned · 56:25 long · planning and zoning, legal
  9. ▶ 2:55:00ANR process changes, Board of Health input and abutters listdirector to draft · 25:00 long · planning and zoning, policy
  10. ▶ 3:20:00Approval of minutesvoted · 1:40 long
  11. ▶ 3:21:40Committee reports, including 250 Howard Street reviewinformational · 10:00 long · town departments, planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 3:31:48Director's items: 250 Howard Street recommendation, master plan, workshop schedulevoted recommendation · 14:52 long · planning and zoning, town departments
  13. ▶ 3:46:40Ongoing items, stormwater bylaw and low impact development, and adjournmentadjourned · 3:37 long · planning and zoning

What the captions could not carry

  • Roll-call tally for 300 Holman Street West lists four names, so whether a fifth member voted is unclear.
  • Roll call for 250 Howard Street recommendation lists four names; one member's vote is not captured.
  • The July 20 letter's and email's exact sender names are mangled in the captions.
  • Several speaker identities are unclear, including who made some motions and seconds.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 2:55:11ANR process changesWhat can the board legally require, such as Board of Health sign-off, in approval-not-required plans?
  • ▶ 3:28:31250 Howard Street acquisitionWhat would the town pay to exercise its right of first refusal on 250 Howard Street?
  • ▶ 1:40:56Bright Farms sewer capacityIs there sewer capacity for the proposed greenhouse on Mass Ave?

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