What was said
Planning Board, September 14, 2020
the recording · 3:49 long, about 27,529 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/planning-board/2020.json
The town published minutes (text), minutes (text) and an agenda, an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 27:22The Planning Board approved the Northfield Road common driveway and scenic road application after closing its public hearing.
- ▶ 5:17The board approved two ANR plans, for 237 Prospect Street and 422 Multiples Road.
- ▶ 1:29:00The Bright Farms greenhouse site plan and stormwater hearing was continued to September 28, and the applicant may work with the review engineer meanwhile.
- ▶ 1:38:25The board approved a de minimis change at Baker Brook Tri-Town Landing to remove an extra water main and hydrant.
- ▶ 2:55:24The board agreed to schedule an end-of-October hearing on amending the ANR subdivision rules, and heard a long report on fall Town Meeting timing for TC Passios.
Why it matters — our reading
- Borrowing for the TC Passios renovation would need a debt exclusion and a special election, so residents could be asked to vote and to accept a higher tax bill if it goes to a fall Town Meeting.
- The proposed change to the ANR rules could alter what landowners must show, and pay for, when dividing land, and the public hearing is where residents can comment.
Watch next
- September 28, 6:35 p.m.: continued Bright Farms hearing.
- End-of-October public hearing on the ANR subdivision rules amendment; the draft is due in the next meeting packet.
capitalfacilitiesgrantsplanning and zoningpolicypublic commenttown meetingwater sewer
Present: Tanner (chair); Mr. Cole (member); Mrs. Bertram (Paula) (member); Mr. Brenner (Matthew) (member); Mr. Torgerson / Jorgensen (Eric) (member); Adam (town planner); Marjorie (planning office staff); Jeff Walsh (review engineer, Graves Engineering). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 5:17Approve the ANR for 237 Prospect Street — moved by Tanner, as heardpassed
- ▶ 11:30Approve the ANR for 422 Multiples Roadpassed
- ▶ 26:40Close the public hearing for the Northfield Road common driveway and scenic road — moved by Mr. Brenner, as heardpassed
- ▶ 27:22Approve the common driveway and scenic road application on Northfield Roadpassed
- ▶ 1:29:00Continue the Bright Farms hearing to September 28 at 6:35 p.m.passed
- ▶ 1:38:25Approve the de minimis change for Baker Brook Tri-Town Landing (remove extra water main and hydrant)passed
And 3 procedural: approve minutes of 8/24 meeting (▶ 1:39:54); approve minutes of the northfield road public hearing of 8/24/20 (▶ 1:40:38); adjourn at 10:21 (▶ 3:48:34).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 6 agree, 2 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 4 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.
recording Close the public hearing for the Northfield Road common driveway and scenic road — passed
town’s minutes —
Official minutes quoted here show no vote to close the hearing; check the full official minutes and the recording.
recording Continue the Bright Farms hearing to September 28 at 6:35 p.m. — passed
town’s minutes —
The official minutes have no vote or mention of continuing the Bright Farms hearing; check whether they omit it.
recording Tanner (chair)
town’s minutes “roll call conducted by adam burney, land use director: matthew allison, present; tanner cole, present; paula bertram, present; matthew brenner, present; erik torgersen (left 10:05 pm), present.”
Our minutes call Tanner the chair. The official minutes list Matthew Allison as Chair and Tanner Cole as Vice Chair; check who chaired.
recording Adam (town planner)
town’s minutes “matthew allison, present; tanner cole, present”
Our minutes have no Matthew Allison, and list Adam as town planner where the official minutes call Adam Burney Land Use Director. Check the roll.
2 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
In one record only: 6 from the recording, 2 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — TC Passios renovation borrowing and TCP architect contract: TC Passios renovation borrowing: between seven and ten million dollars; TCP architect contract: 250 000 ▶ 1:45:11
- Recording only — Special election cost: Special election cost: twelve hundred dollars ▶ 1:56:21
- Recording only — ANR plan, septic, advertisement and topo cost figures: Cost of ANR plan versus septic: three thousand dollar, 30 000 septic; hearing advertisement 50 bucks maybe a hundred; topo two to five hundred dollars ▶ 2:51:13
- Recording only — Fall Town Meeting feelings relayed to building committee: The board's representative will relay mixed feelings about a fall Town Meeting to the TC Passios building committee; no formal position taken. ▶ 2:20:11
- Recording only — Waiver requests with next plans: Applicant to submit waiver requests (e.g. traffic study) with next plans; board chair indicated MEPA/DOT analysis would likely suffice. ▶ 1:24:09
- Recording only — Review engineer Jeff Walsh and staff Marjorie: Marjorie (planning office staff); Jeff Walsh (review engineer, Graves Engineering) ▶ 0:00
- Town’s minutes only — Conservation Commission trail map grant: “received a grant to put small maps at trail intersections.”
- Town’s minutes only — Property owner and engineer for 422 Mulpus Road: “both the property owner donald solovei and his representative steve marsden of marsden engineering were present.”
Compared 2026-11-03. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 1:45:11TC Passios renovation borrowing
Cost estimates floated for repurposing the building; borrowing would need a debt exclusion and a special election if approved at fall Town Meeting.
as heard:between seven and ten million dollars
- ▶ 1:49:40TCP architect contract
Contract is for up to the amount approved by town meeting and runs until funds are spent.
as heard:250 000
- ▶ 1:56:21Special election cost
A member recalled the clerk's staffing cost for a special election from memory.
as heard:twelve hundred dollars
- ▶ 2:25:06Shared Streets and Spaces grant
State DOT grant program for quick-build projects; submissions due Sept 29.
as heard:five million dollarsfive thousand to three hundred thousand
- ▶ 2:51:13Cost of ANR plan versus septic
A member contrasted the cost of an ANR plan with the cost of a septic system.
as heard:three thousand dollar30 000 septic
- ▶ 2:54:02Hearing advertisement cost
Advertising a regulation hearing in the paper costs little.
as heard:50 bucks maybe a hundred
- ▶ 3:04:27Topo on ANR plans
Adding topography to a plan could cost the applicant a few hundred dollars.
as heard:two to five hundred dollars
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 1:29:00Bright Farms hearing continued to September 28; applicant may work directly with the review engineer in the meantime.
- ▶ 2:55:24Board agreed to schedule a public hearing at end of October to amend the ANR subdivision rules; draft to be in next meeting packet.
- ▶ 2:20:11The board's representative will relay mixed feelings about a fall Town Meeting to the TC Passios building committee; no formal position taken.
- ▶ 1:24:09Applicant to submit waiver requests (e.g. traffic study) with next plans; board chair indicated MEPA/DOT analysis would likely suffice.
- ▶ 3:47:30Master plan chapter update discussion put off until next meeting.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The minutes print a list, headed documents used at meeting:
:
- Minutes of 08.24.2020
- Minutes of 08.24.2020, Northfield Road/Holman Street West
- ANR Plan, 237 Prospect Street
- ANR Plan, 422 Mulpus Road
- Tri Town Landing, Request for De Minimis Change
- §325-3.2., DRAFT (Ch. 325, Subdivision Regulations)
Named in the running text, not in a list:
- Letter from the Building Commissioner regarding 237 Prospect Street (not a building lot)
- Two drafts of the ANR process
Heard in the recording
- ▶ 3:54letter from the building departmentletter or email, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Letter from the Building Commissioner regarding 237 Prospect Street (not a building lot)”)
- ▶ 13:41plan of salvage lot aplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 37:00timeline with building inspector commentsother, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Letter from the Building Commissioner regarding 237 Prospect Street (not a building lot)”)
- ▶ 48:56reduced plan set sheet c802plan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 1:23:49site plan approval special permit submittal checklistother, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 1:32:07email from chief sullivanletter or email, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 2:35:17ANR handbookreport, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 2:36:18two draft regulation amendments (draft 1 and 1a)draft policy or bylaw, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Two drafts of the ANR process”)
In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Minutes of 08.24.2020; Minutes of 08.24.2020, Northfield Road/Holman Street West; ANR Plan, 237 Prospect Street; ANR Plan, 422 Mulpus Road; Tri Town Landing, Request for De Minimis Change; §325-3.2., DRAFT (Ch. 325, Subdivision Regulations).
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Public comment
- ▶ 2:46Chair asked for public comment not related to the hearings; none raised.
- ▶ 1:17:11Public comment on the Bright Farms hearing requested; none raised.
- ▶ 3:47:30Closing public comment; none.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- planning and zoning172 min · 75%
- policy76 min · 33%
- water sewer58 min · 25%
- economic development58 min · 25%
- town meeting51 min · 22%
- facilities51 min · 22%
- grants51 min · 22%
- public safety10 min · 4%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:00Meeting opening and remote-meeting noticeinformational · 3:06 long
- ▶ 3:06ANR 237 Prospect Streetvoted · 6:14 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 9:12ANR 422 Multiples Roadvoted · 3:08 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 12:20Northfield Road common driveway and scenic road hearingvoted, approved · 19:49 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 32:09Bright Farms greenhouse site plan and stormwater hearingcontinued to Sept 28 · 57:31 long · planning and zoning, water sewer, economic development
- ▶ 1:29:40Baker Brook de minimis changevoted · 9:46 long · planning and zoning, public safety
- ▶ 1:39:26Minutes approvalvoted · 1:34 long
- ▶ 1:41:00Committee reports including TC Passios building committee and fall Town Meeting timinginformational · 50:39 long · town meeting, facilities, grants
- ▶ 2:31:39Workshop: ANR process and rules amendmentshearing to be scheduled · 1:15:51 long · planning and zoning, policy
- ▶ 3:47:30Meeting schedule, comments, adjournmentvoted · 1:48 long
What the captions could not carry
- Roll call counts on several votes are only partly rendered (e.g. one member's vote on 422 Multiples Road is garbled).
- Mr. Torgerson/Jorgensen left the meeting roughly 15 minutes before adjournment; adjournment tally partial.
- Figures such as special election cost and TCP estimates are from speaker memory and unreliable in captions.
Reports this meeting suggests
Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.
- ▶ 1:44:50Town building conceptsWhat would the TC Passios renovation cost and when would voters decide it?already answered:
thread:tc-passios-site
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