What was said

Planning Board, October 25, 2021

the recording · 1:22 long, about 7,989 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text), minutes (text) and an agenda, an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:00:56The Planning Board voted to recommend approval of all its warrant articles for the special town meeting, after closing the hearing on them.
  2. ▶ 42:39The board approved the stormwater permit for 360 Flat Hill Road as revised, with set hours of operation and a replanting condition for the rain garden.
  3. ▶ 12:18The board approved an ANR plan for 159/165 Mass Avenue and a de minimis change for Hannaford To Go, both by voice vote.
  4. ▶ 22:52The board approved the scenic road tree-cutting permit for 360 Flat Hill Road and closed that hearing.
  5. ▶ 18:07Hearings for 475 Leominster-Shirley Road and 101 Pleasant Street were continued to November 8; staff will draft decision language with sound wall conditions for the first.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The zoning articles the board recommended are the ones residents will be asked to vote on at the special town meeting.
  • The 360 Flat Hill Road permits set operating hours and stormwater conditions that apply to a neighbouring site, and the 475 Leominster-Shirley Road sound wall conditions are still open until November 8.

Watch next

  • November 8 at 6:35 pm: continued hearings on 475 Leominster-Shirley Road (decision language with sound wall conditions) and 101 Pleasant Street.
  • The next Planning Board meeting: whether the board gives the bylaw review committee input on zoning bylaws.

capitaleconomic developmenthousingplanning and zoningpolicytown meetingwarrant articlewater sewer

Present: Mr. Jorgensen (planning director/staff); Mr. Allison (member); Mrs. Bertram (member); Mr. Brenner (member (economic development committee liaison)); Mr. Matson (presenter (applicant, 360 Flat Hill Road)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 12:18Approve the ANR for 159/165 Mass Avenuepassed by voice vote, count not stated
  2. ▶ 16:01Approve de minimis change for Hannaford To Gopassed by voice vote, count not stated
  3. ▶ 18:33Continue 475 Leominster-Shirley Road to November 8 at 6:35 pmpassed by voice vote, count not stated
  4. ▶ 19:37Continue 101 Pleasant Street to November 8 at 6:35 pmpassed by voice vote, count not stated
  5. ▶ 22:52Approve scenic road tree-cutting permit for 360 Flat Hill Roadpassed by voice vote, count not stated
  6. ▶ 23:56Close public hearing on scenic road for 360 Flat Hill Roadpassed by voice vote, count not stated
  7. ▶ 41:09Close public hearing on stormwater permit for 360 Flat Hill Roadpassed by voice vote, count not stated
  8. ▶ 42:39Approve stormwater permit for 360 Flat Hill Road as revisedpassed by voice vote, count not stated
  9. ▶ 1:00:15Close the hearing on the warrant articlespassed by voice vote, count not stated
  10. ▶ 1:00:56Recommend approval of all Planning Board warrant articlespassed by voice vote, count not stated

And 2 procedural: approve minutes of september 27 (▶ 1:01:57); adjourn (▶ 1:21:12).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 2 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 9 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsVotes on 159/165 Mass Avenue ANR and Hannaford To Go de minimis change▶ 12:18

    recording Approve the ANR for 159/165 Mass Avenue — passed by voice vote; Approve de minimis change for Hannaford To Go — passed by voice vote

    town’s minutes —

    Our record has two votes that the official record does not mention; check whether the official minutes were truncated or whether these items were handled and left out.

  2. differsContinuances of 475 Leominster-Shirley Road and 101 Pleasant Street to November 8▶ 18:33

    recording Continue 475 Leominster-Shirley Road to November 8 at 6:35 pm — passed by voice vote; Continue 101 Pleasant Street to November 8 at 6:35 pm — passed by voice vote

    town’s minutes —

    Two continuance votes appear only in ours; confirm in the full official minutes and the video.

  3. differs360 Flat Hill Road scenic road permit and closing the scenic road hearing▶ 22:52

    recording Approve scenic road tree-cutting permit for 360 Flat Hill Road — passed by voice vote; Close public hearing on scenic road for 360 Flat Hill Road — passed by voice vote

    town’s minutes —

    Votes on the permit and the hearing close are in ours and absent from the official record; check the official minutes for any outcome on this permit.

  4. differs360 Flat Hill Road stormwater permit: hearing closed and permit approved as revised▶ 42:39

    recording Close public hearing on stormwater permit for 360 Flat Hill Road — passed by voice vote; Approve stormwater permit for 360 Flat Hill Road as revised — passed by voice vote

    town’s minutes —

    A permit approval is a decision the official record does not show; check the official minutes and the permit decision filed with the town.

  5. differsWarrant articles: hearing closed and approval recommended▶ 1:00:56

    recording Close the hearing on the warrant articles — passed by voice vote; Recommend approval of all Planning Board warrant articles — passed by voice vote

    town’s minutes —

    Our record has a recommendation on all Planning Board warrant articles that the official record does not mention; check the official minutes.

  6. differsDecisions on 360 Flat Hill Road conditions (hours, rain garden planting)▶ 37:30

    recording Set hours of operation at 7 to 5 weekdays and 8 to 3 Saturday for 360 Flat Hill Road.; Added a special condition that dead rain garden vegetation be replaced from the lot's plant schedule species list.

    town’s minutes —

    Permit conditions appear only in ours; check them against the written stormwater decision.

  7. differsDecisions: 475 Leominster-Shirley Road draft decision language, and bylaw review committee input▶ 18:07

    recording Staff to draft decision language for 475 Leominster-Shirley Road including the sound wall conditions members email in, to finalize on November 8.; Board to consider at the next meeting whether to give the bylaw review committee input on zoning bylaws.

    town’s minutes —

    Two decisions or next steps appear only in ours; check the official minutes and the next agenda.

  8. differsMatthew Brenner attendance▶ 0:00

    recording Mr. Brenner (member (economic development committee liaison))

    town’s minutes “absent: matthew brenner”

    Ours has Brenner taking part as a member and economic development liaison; the official record marks him absent. Check the video and whether the speaker was someone else.

  9. differsPlanning director/land use director identity▶ 0:00

    recording Mr. Jorgensen (planning director/staff)

    town’s minutes “present: tanner cole, matthew allison, paula bertram, erik torgersen, adam burney”

    Ours names Jorgensen as the staff director; the official record lists Adam Burney as Land Use Director and no Jorgensen. Check who staffed the meeting.

In one record only: 3 from the recording, 1 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Registry recording cost: Registry recording cost: 75 ▶ 31:23
  • Recording only — TC Passios design funding: TC Passios design funding: a quarter million dollars, 250, 50 000, 22 million, 21 million ▶ 1:04:01
  • Recording only — Mr. Matson, applicant for 360 Flat Hill Road: Mr. Matson (presenter (applicant, 360 Flat Hill Road)) ▶ 0:00
  • Town’s minutes only — Tanner Cole (Chair) and Erik Torgersen (Member) present: “present: tanner cole, matthew allison, paula bertram, erik torgersen, adam burney”

Compared 2026-10-17. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 31:23Registry recording cost

    A member noted recording the full stormwater report at the registry would cost per page, so only the operation and maintenance section is attached.

    as heard:75

  2. ▶ 59:11Master plan funding via capital planning

    The board's master plan request went to capital planning; the warrant is closed so an outside article could follow in spring if it is not funded.

  3. ▶ 1:04:01TC Passios design funding

    Members discussed a town meeting ask for design documents for a new building, to compare with renovation cost, and a sum already spent on an estimate.

    as heard:a quarter million dollars25050 00022 million21 million

  4. ▶ 1:07:09FY capital planning requests

    Capital planning reviewed new requests including records retention, master plan, senior center patio and HVAC, drainage and pavement at public safety building, town hall wiring, a police canine and cruiser, and a highway radio system.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 18:07Staff to draft decision language for 475 Leominster-Shirley Road including the sound wall conditions members email in, to finalize on November 8.
  • ▶ 38:16Added a special condition that dead rain garden vegetation be replaced from the lot's plant schedule species list.
  • ▶ 37:30Set hours of operation at 7 to 5 weekdays and 8 to 3 Saturday for 360 Flat Hill Road.
  • ▶ 1:10:18Board to consider at the next meeting whether to give the bylaw review committee input on zoning bylaws.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed documents used at meeting:

  • DRAFT Planning Board Warrant Articles

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Revised Protective Bylaw Map of the Town of Lunenburg, Massachusetts (zoning map dated November 16, 2021)
  • LUNENBURG WATER DISTRICT AQUIFER PROTECTION ZONES, dated July 2021

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 38:56stormwater drainage calculationsreport, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 28:53operation and maintenance planplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 23:13draft decision on scenic roaddraft policy or bylaw, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 44:20zoning map dated November 16 2021plan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Revised Protective Bylaw Map of the Town of Lunenburg, Massachusetts (zoning map dated November 16, 2021)”)
  • ▶ 47:08water supply protection map July 2021plan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“LUNENBURG WATER DISTRICT AQUIFER PROTECTION ZONES, dated July 2021”)
  • ▶ 1:12:22town charter bylaw review sectiondraft policy or bylaw· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Revised Protective Bylaw Map of the Town of Lunenburg, Massachusetts (zoning map dated November 16, 2021)”)
  • ▶ 1:01:57minutes of September 27prior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: DRAFT Planning Board Warrant Articles.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Opening and public commentnone offered · 0:22 long
  2. ▶ 0:22ANR for 159/165 Mass Avevoted · 12:19 long · planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 12:41Hannaford To Go de minimis changevoted · 3:42 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 16:23Continuances: 475 Leominster-Shirley Rd and 101 Pleasant Stvoted · 3:54 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 20:17Scenic road permit, 360 Flat Hill Roadvoted · 6:53 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 27:10Stormwater permit, 360 Flat Hill Roadvoted · 16:50 long · planning and zoning, water sewer
  7. ▶ 44:00Special town meeting zoning articles hearing and recommendationvoted · 17:36 long · warrant article, town meeting, planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:01:36Minutes approvalvoted · 1:04 long
  9. ▶ 1:02:40Committee reportsinformational · 6:11 long · capital, town meeting
  10. ▶ 1:08:51Director's itemsinformational · 12:01 long · planning and zoning, housing, economic development
  11. ▶ 1:20:52Schedule and adjournmentvoted · 1:03 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote counts were not stated for any voice vote.
  • Stretches during document hunting and printing at about 1480-1560 and 2060-2100 are garbled.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 1:02:40TC Passios building costsWhat would renovating versus building new at TC Passios cost, and what is the town meeting asking to fund?already answered: thread:tc-passios-site
  • ▶ 1:07:09Capital planning requestsWhich departmental capital requests are on the table for next year?

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