What was said

Planning Board, July 8, 2024

the recording · 3:50 long, about 28,102 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 57:02The Planning Board voted to pursue Mass Housing Partnership technical assistance funding to evaluate MBTA Communities zoning compliance.
  2. ▶ 3:13:22A long joint session with the Water Commissioners on the water supply protection district bylaw ended with no decision; a redraft is due for August 26th.
  3. ▶ 1:33:08The board and the water district agreed to remove farming and gardening (section E) from the Zone 1 permitted uses.
  4. ▶ 1:16:37The Sunny Hill Road stormwater hearing was continued to July 22nd, and a certificate of completion was granted for 321 Sunny Hill Road.
  5. ▶ 1:10:29The Lancaster signage hearing was cancelled so the applicant can withdraw and resubmit, and a show of hands favored keeping the Pledge of Allegiance.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Noncompliance with MBTA zoning could make the town ineligible for grants such as Housing Choice, Green Communities and MassWorks, so the technical-assistance application bears on future town funding and on a zoning article residents may be asked to vote on.
  • The water bylaw failed at town meeting before, and whether new treatment plants in the protection zones need a special permit is still open, so the final wording will decide what residents are asked to approve.

Watch next

  • July 22nd: the Mass Housing Partnership application and support letter are due, and the Sunny Hill Road stormwater hearing resumes at 6:05 p.m.
  • August 26th: the revised water bylaw draft, with the special permit option for Zones 1 and 2, returns for discussion; a public hearing is tentatively aimed at September 23rd.

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Present: Mr. Harris (Richard Harris) (interim land use director (remote), remote); Karen Chapman (presenter, Montachusett Regional Planning Commission); Mr. Allison (member); Mr. Wisner (vice chair (as addressed)); Logan (staff / minutes taker); Mr. McLoud (member (as addressed)); Brian Maret (Mardi Engineering) (applicant representative); Fr Magma (superintendent of the water district); Mark Bur (water commissioner); Matthew Woodward (chairman, Board of Water Commissioners). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 57:02Board supports pursuing funding for technical assistance to further evaluate MBTA zoning compliance (Mass Housing Partnership).passed (voice vote, all in favor audible; no count)
  2. ▶ 1:00:09Continue the public hearing for the stormwater management permit for 255 Sunny Hill Road to July 22nd at 6:05 p.m.passed (voice vote; one abstention possibly invited, no count audible)
  3. ▶ 1:10:29Cancel the signage special permit hearing for 3 Lancaster for the reasons specified by Mr. Harris.passed (voice vote; Mr. Allison abstained)
  4. ▶ 1:16:37Grant certificate of completion for stormwater permit at 321 Sunny Hill Road only.passed (voice vote)
  5. ▶ 3:39:13Show of hands on whether to continue saying the Pledge of Allegiance at meetings (not a formal motion).passed in favor; opposed called but count not audible

And 1 procedural: adjourn. (▶ 3:50:16).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 9 agree, 5 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsVote: continue 255 Sunny Hill Road stormwater hearing to July 22▶ 1:00:09

    recording Continue the public hearing for the stormwater management permit for 255 Sunny Hill Road to July 22nd at 6:05 p.m. — passed (voice vote; one abstention possibly invited, no count audible)

    town’s minutes —

    The official minutes record no vote or continuance for 255 Sunny Hill Rd. Check the recording near this timestamp and whether the continuance was a motion or only a scheduling statement.

  2. differsRemove section E (farming/gardening) from Zone 1 permitted uses▶ 1:33:08

    recording Board and water district agreed to remove section E (farming/gardening) from Zone 1 permitted uses.

    town’s minutes “joan pease (11 wintergreen court) said that there were no objections to removing (e).”

    Ours records an agreement. The official minutes record only a resident saying there were no objections, and also say no decisions were made that night. Check the recording to see whether it was a consensus or only a comment.

  3. differsApplicant's representative

    recording Brian Maret (Mardi Engineering) (applicant representative)

    town’s minutes “sanford leavenworth represented the applicant via zoom.”

    The names and firm differ and may be different applicants or items. Check the recording to see which hearing Maret spoke on.

5 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Water treatment plant design and construction cost:Water treatment design and construction cost: 7 $800,000, every $20 million→~$700-800k for the construction plan and ~$20m for implementation▶ 2:11:58
  • Attendee: Fran McNamara, water district superintendent:Fr Magma (superintendent of the water district)→Fran McNamara
  • Attendee: Mark Bursch:Mark Bur (water commissioner)→Mark Bursch
  • Attendee: Mr. McLoud:Mr. McLoud (member (as addressed))→Glenn McLeod
  • Attendee: Mr. Wisner:Mr. Wisner (vice chair (as addressed))→Timothy Willsmer
In one record only: 8 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Water treatment plant cost: 125 million: Water treatment plant cost: 125 million ▶ 1:37:38
  • Recording only — Performance guarantee, Sunny Hill Road: Performance guarantee, Sunny Hill Road: 12,500 ▶ 1:15:13
  • Recording only — Signage application fee: Signage application fee: $200, $20 fee ▶ 1:06:15
  • Recording only — Planning assistance grant due dates (June 30, July 22): Planning assistance grant (state): June 30th; Technical assistance options: July 22nd ▶ 7:05
  • Recording only — Chapman to send MHP info; support letter: Chapman to send MHP information; a support letter could be obtained from the town manager for the planning assistance grant due July 22nd. ▶ 31:53
  • Recording only — Water commissioners to discuss special permit compromise: Water commissioners to discuss the special permit compromise at their Wednesday meeting and report back to the board. ▶ 3:12:38
  • Recording only — Signage applicant to withdraw without prejudice and resubmit: Signage applicant to email staff to withdraw without prejudice and resubmit a complete application later. ▶ 1:08:49
  • Recording only — New member not voting on the Sunny Hill hearing; conflicts emailed: Chair asked members to email conflicts for July 22nd; new member would not vote on the Sunny Hill hearing as he was not on the board when it started. ▶ 1:00:29
  • Town’s minutes only — Zone 1 protection suggestion added to revisions list: “r. harris said he would include this suggestion in the list of possible revisions from this meeting's discussion.”
  • Town’s minutes only — EDC rescheduled to July 22: “the edc was unable to attend, and tentatively rescheduled for 2024-07-22.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Attendees: Brenner (Chair) and Reid (Clerk): “present: matthew allison, matthew brenner, glenn mcleod, amanda reid, timothy willsmer”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public commenters and applicant/owner names: “joan pease (11 wintergreen court) said that there were no objections to removing (e).”

Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 7:05Planning assistance grant (state)

    The prior planning assistance grant for the MBTA work ended June 30, so more technical assistance is needed.

    as heard:June 30th

  2. ▶ 24:03Technical assistance options

    Options are another planning assistance grant, the District Local Technical Assistance next January, or Mass Housing Partnership funding with a 4 to 8 month timeframe.

    as heard:July 22nd

  3. ▶ 56:40Technical assistance grant size

    Grants vary in amount.

    as heard:10,000 to 50,000 or more

  4. ▶ 16:54Grants at risk for noncompliance

    Noncompliance with MBTA zoning could make the town ineligible for Housing Choice, Green Communities, MassWorks and other grants.

  5. ▶ 1:15:13Performance guarantee, Sunny Hill Road

    A guarantee covers 317 and 321 Sunny Hill and remains if the certificate is issued.

    as heard:12,500

  6. ▶ 1:37:38Water treatment plant cost

    Water district said treatment plants are very costly and forcing them out of the protection zones would add millions.

    as heard:125 million

  7. ▶ 2:11:58Water treatment design and construction cost

    Design alone and the full facility were estimated by the water superintendent, requiring district votes.

    as heard:7 $800,000every $20 million

  8. ▶ 1:06:15Signage application fee

    Applicant said he had not yet paid the application fee and abutters list steps.

    as heard:$200$20 fee

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 57:02Board agreed to pursue Mass Housing Partnership technical assistance for MBTA zoning; Mr. Harris to review the MHP application and draft it for the town manager's signature.
  • ▶ 31:53Chapman to send MHP information; a support letter could be obtained from the town manager for the planning assistance grant due July 22nd.
  • ▶ 3:13:22Mr. Harris will revise the water protection bylaw draft including the special permit for Zones 1 and 2 option for the August 26th discussion.
  • ▶ 3:15:08Public hearing on the water bylaw tentatively aimed for September 23rd, not yet scheduled.
  • ▶ 1:33:08Board and water district agreed to remove section E (farming/gardening) from Zone 1 permitted uses.
  • ▶ 3:12:38Water commissioners to discuss the special permit compromise at their Wednesday meeting and report back to the board.
  • ▶ 1:08:49Signage applicant to email staff to withdraw without prejudice and resubmit a complete application later.
  • ▶ 1:00:29Chair asked members to email conflicts for July 22nd; new member would not vote on the Sunny Hill hearing as he was not on the board when it started.
  • ▶ 3:45:27May 13 and June 12/10 minutes not approved; Mr. Harris to review and send comments; minutes to be corrected and brought back.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 4:16Chair opened public comment at the start of the meeting; none offered.
  2. ▶ 1:33:49Joan P., Winter Green Court, said residents have no objection to removing section E (farming, gardening) from Zone 1 uses. — Joan p, as heard
  3. ▶ 1:53:33Joan P. said residents are not opposed to treatment plants but want a special permit for new ones in Zones 2 and 3 so neighbors can have input on screening and placement; said the bylaw failed at town meeting before. — Joan P, as heard
  4. ▶ 2:15:29Asked whether industrial versus residential areas are treated differently and who looks out for the neighborhood. — Iris sinkle, as heard, resident, 13 Winter Green Court
  5. ▶ 2:24:43Argued only water district voters vote before a project reaches the board, so a special permit should stay in the board's back pocket. — Andy starasi, as heard, resident, 8 Winter Green Court
  6. ▶ 2:30:20Said voters want the most stringent regulation and a special permit is the way to get two-thirds at town meeting. — Barbara turkington, as heard, resident, 110 Royal Fern Drive
  7. ▶ 2:48:29Proposed compromise: no treatment plant in Zone 1 within 400 feet of a lake shore; later proposed special permit for any new construction in Zones 1 and 2. — Miss P, as heard
  8. ▶ 3:33:43Remote member of the public asked why saying the Pledge is so important to those who want it.
  9. ▶ 3:49:10Thanked the board for the pledge vote and criticized chair comments about attracting attendance. — Dave McDonald, as heard, resident, 155 Island Road

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:26Technical setup and pledgeinformational · 2:22 long
  2. ▶ 2:48Call to order, announcements, public commentinformational · 2:10 long
  3. ▶ 4:58MBTA Communities multifamily zoning presentation and next stepsvoted to pursue technical assistance funding · 52:46 long · planning and zoning, housing, grants
  4. ▶ 58:04255 Sunny Hill Road stormwater permit hearingcontinued to July 22nd · 4:58 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 1:03:023 Lancaster signage special permithearing cancelled · 8:28 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 1:11:30Certificate of completion, 321 Sunny Hill Roadvoted, granted · 5:58 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 1:17:28Water supply protection district bylaw with Water Commissionersno decision; redraft for August 26th · 2:01:32 long · water sewer, planning and zoning, public comment
  8. ▶ 3:19:00Pledge of Allegiance at meetingsshow of hands to keep saying it · 20:55 long · policy, public comment
  9. ▶ 3:39:55Approval of minutesnot acted on; to be corrected · 6:25 long
  10. ▶ 3:46:20Committee reports, ongoing items, scheduleinformational · 2:50 long · planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 3:49:10Public comment and adjournmentadjourned · 1:27 long · public comment

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote counts on all voice votes were not stated.
  • Exact figures for treatment plant costs and grant sizes are caption-rendered and unreliable.
  • The 2024 date reference of 'August of 2013' for revised guidelines is likely misheard.
  • Speaker identities in much of the water bylaw discussion were not given.
  • Whether the minutes motion occurred: minutes were not approved, no vote heard.
  • Opposed and abstention counts on the Sunny Hill continuance and pledge vote were not audible.

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