What was said

Planning Board, October 28, 2024

the recording · 3:42 long, about 28,766 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:39:26The board voted to fund an outside peer review for the 494 Electric Avenue parking and commercial building project, paid by the applicant.
  2. ▶ 1:39:49All four hearings, 494 Electric Avenue, 791 and 795 Lemonster Road and 70 Kilburn Street, were continued to November 25 pending peer review.
  3. ▶ 2:09:30For the three storm water hearings on Lemonster Road and Kilburn Street, the board required peer review, with an applicant deposit to the town's 53G account.
  4. ▶ 2:49:23The board approved the 1260 Reservoir Road site plan with standard conditions and did not require peer review.
  5. ▶ 3:11:06The board approved a certificate of completion for the 319 Highland Street storm water permit and signed two decisions.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Neighbors of 494 Electric Avenue raised flooding, traffic, lighting and noise, and the independent engineering review that now follows is meant to test the drainage before the board decides.
  • The town has no money of its own to pay peer reviewers, so applicant deposits to the 53G account decide whether a storm water review happens, and a fee schedule revision is meant to make applicant fees cover the department's budget.

Watch next

  • November 25: the 494 Electric Avenue hearing resumes at 6:05 p.m. with the three Lemonster Road and Kilburn Street storm water hearings, after peer review.
  • A draft planning application fee schedule is expected at the next meeting, followed by a public hearing.

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Present: Mr McLoud (member); Mr Allison (member); Mr Wilner (member); M Reed (Miss Reed) (member/clerk, remote); the chair (chair); Chris (Mr Riley) (land use director); Logan (planning staff); Mr O'Connell (monitoring Zoom). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 1:39:26Authorize Graves Engineering peer review for 494 Electric Ave in the amount of 5,000passed (roll call, all four recorded ayes heard; chair's aye)
  2. ▶ 1:39:49Continue 494 Electric Ave hearing to November 25 at 6:05 p.m.passed (roll call)
  3. ▶ 2:09:30Require peer review for 791 Lemonster Rd storm water with 3,000 paid by applicantpassed (roll call)
  4. ▶ 2:11:38Continue 791 Lemonster Rd hearing to November 25passed (roll call)
  5. ▶ 2:19:18Require 3,000 deposit to 53G account for peer review at 795 Lemonster Rdpassed (roll call)
  6. ▶ 2:20:00Continue 795 Lemonster Rd hearing to November 25passed (roll call)
  7. ▶ 2:36:08Require 3,000 deposit to 53G account for peer review at 70 Kilburn Stpassed (roll call)
  8. ▶ 2:36:28Continue 70 Kilburn St hearing to November 25passed (roll call)
  9. ▶ 2:48:41Close the public hearing for 1260 Reservoir Roadpassed (roll call)
  10. ▶ 2:49:23Approve site plan for 1260 Reservoir Road with standard conditionspassed (roll call)
  11. ▶ 3:11:06Approve certificate of completion for 319 Highland Street storm water permitpassed (roll call)

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 3:41:58).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 13 agree, 5 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differs255 Sunny Hill and 1335 Mass Ave decisions▶ 3:07:55

    recording 255 Sunny Hill and 1335 Mass Ave decisions signed by members present; remaining member to sign next day at the planning office, then filed with the Town Clerk.

    town’s minutes “m. brenner, t. willsmer and a. reid endorsed the decision.”

    The official minutes record the 255 Sunny Hill endorsement as three members, with a 2-2 vote, G. McLeod ineligible, and a vote date of 2025-08-26 that does not fit this meeting. Ours says nothing about the vote count or the next-day signature. Check the recording and the signed decisions.

  2. differsMeeting calendar document▶ 3:39:12

    recording Staff will prepare a calendar of meeting dates and filing deadlines, for board review.

    town’s minutes “the board was comfortable with a document outlining the tentative dates for the year”

    The two describe different documents. Ours is a calendar with filing deadlines for board review. The official minutes describe a tentative-dates document with a disclaimer, kept by the director after a public request. Check the recording near t=13152.

  3. differsAttendee: Logan / Mr O'Connell▶ 0:00

    recording Logan (planning staff); Mr O'Connell (monitoring Zoom)

    town’s minutes “minutes by logan o'connell, admin asst.”

    Ours lists Logan and Mr O'Connell as two people. The official minutes name one Logan O'Connell, the administrative assistant who wrote the minutes. Check whether they are one person.

5 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Street name: 791 Lemonster Rd vs 791 Leominster Rd:Require peer review for 791 Lemonster Rd storm water with 3,000 paid by applicant — passed (roll call)→Leominster Rd▶ 2:09:30
  • Attendee: Mr McLoud:Mr McLoud (member)→Glenn McLeod▶ 0:00
  • Attendee: Mr Wilner:Mr Wilner (member)→Timothy Willsmer▶ 0:00
  • Attendee: M Reed (Miss Reed), clerk:M Reed (Miss Reed) (member/clerk)→Amanda Reid▶ 0:00
  • Attendee: Chris (Mr Riley), land use director:Chris (Mr Riley) (land use director)→Chris Reilly▶ 0:00
In one record only: 6 from the recording, 6 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Peer review cost figure $15,000 for the Lemonster Road lots: Peer review cost, Lemonster Road lots: $3,000, $15,000 ▶ 2:00:59
  • Recording only — 53G account deposit: 53G account: 3,000, 53g ▶ 2:09:30
  • Recording only — Practice of voting on peer review authorization amounts: Board agreed to start voting on peer review authorization amounts as a practice, as the land use director recommended. ▶ 1:38:00
  • Recording only — Board to keep requiring peer review for storm water; director to research: Board will keep requiring peer review for storm water permits; director to research the process. ▶ 1:51:40
  • Recording only — Continue approving certificates of completion: Board to continue approving certificates of completion, as director said only the permitting authority may. ▶ 3:15:13
  • Recording only — Next meeting Nov 25; none Nov 11: Next meeting November 25; none on November 11. ▶ 3:35:46
  • Town’s minutes only — 1335 Massachusetts Ave corrected decision: “the board endorsed the corrected decision.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Living document tracking Board priorities: “c. reilly will create a living document to track the board”
  • Town’s minutes only — Title search report request for 494 Electric Ave: “c. reilly asked j. avini for the complete title search report from atty. pellegrini, for town counsel to review.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Setback waiver review by applicant's engineer: “c. anderson would review.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Applicant-side attendees (Anderson, Avini, Proctor, LeClair): “attorney jeff avini (representing the applicant) explained”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public commenters at the 494 Electric Ave and Leominster Rd / Kilburn St hearings: “owns 480 electric ave and 15 kirby ave, has had year-long issues with the applicant about noise and drainage concerns.”

Compared 2026-10-07. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 8:00Planning application fee schedule

    Director said fees are inconsistent and will be revised so applicant fees fund the department's budget; a draft is expected at the next meeting, followed by a public hearing.

  2. ▶ 1:35:15Peer review, 494 Electric Ave

    Peer review estimate by Graves Engineering, paid by the applicant, was put to a vote.

    as heard:$5,000

  3. ▶ 2:00:59Peer review cost, Lemonster Road lots

    Reviewer cost for a standard small-lot storm water review was estimated, with unused funds returned to the applicant.

    as heard:$3,000$15,000

  4. ▶ 2:09:3053G account

    The town has no funds of its own to pay a peer reviewer, so applicant deposits to the 53G account are needed.

    as heard:3,00053g

  5. ▶ 2:44:53Site plan review fee for 1260 Reservoir

    Staff noted site plan review has a different fee than storm water; board did not require peer review.

  6. ▶ 3:34:40Town manager search consultant

    Community Paradigm Associates chosen for the search and described as cheaper than others.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:38:00Board agreed to start voting on peer review authorization amounts as a practice, as the land use director recommended.
  • ▶ 1:51:40Board will keep requiring peer review for storm water permits; director to research the process.
  • ▶ 2:35:45Neighbor video and photos for Kilburn St to be emailed to the land use director for the record.
  • ▶ 3:07:55255 Sunny Hill and 1335 Mass Ave decisions signed by members present; remaining member to sign next day at the planning office, then filed with the Town Clerk.
  • ▶ 3:15:13Board to continue approving certificates of completion, as director said only the permitting authority may.
  • ▶ 3:39:12Staff will prepare a calendar of meeting dates and filing deadlines, for board review.
  • ▶ 3:35:46Next meeting November 25; none on November 11.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 3:27Initial public comment: none offered.
  2. ▶ 42:50Gutters at the new building at El Forno discharge onto the rear of 15 Kirby Ave and flood it; also noise from live entertainment. — Michael lovewell, as heard, owner of 480 Electric Avenue and 15 Kirby Avenue
  3. ▶ 47:44Asked about the buffer, lighting, egress, traffic study and why so many parking spaces. — George Oliver, as heard, resident, 33 Wallace Park
  4. ▶ 56:30Flooding at the end of the street since the lot was disturbed. — Janine Cooper, as heard, resident, 43 the Clearing
  5. ▶ 1:03:02Private road plowing and runoff from the earlier El Forno building; wanted to show a video. — Steven Court, as heard, tenant at 15 Kirby
  6. ▶ 1:08:20Quality of the wall, high water table, bright lights, and her water shutoff location. — Linda Hy, as heard, resident, 20 Pierce
  7. ▶ 1:11:07Water, Pierce Ave traffic, and lighting. — Michael Cooper, as heard, resident, 43 the Clearing
  8. ▶ 1:24:20Traffic cutting through her street. — Kathy Oliver, as heard, resident, 33 Wallace Park
  9. ▶ 1:25:27Parking and traffic on Pierce Ave; water. — Terry green, as heard, resident, 28 the Clearing
  10. ▶ 1:27:31Asked about the WHM overlay district, drainage and snow storage. — Mike lovewell, as heard, resident
  11. ▶ 1:32:03Water in basements; asked about catch basins and grading. — DAV zck, as heard, resident, 39 Wallace Park
  12. ▶ 2:10:35Asked whether comment applied to 70 Kilburn; later raised flooding of the curve and driveway safety. — Joan Hoy, as heard, resident, 39 Kilburn Street
  13. ▶ 2:16:30Storm water pooling and icing on Lemonster Road near the proposed lots. — Sue, as heard, resident, 710 Lemonster Road
  14. ▶ 3:36:48Staff member Logan suggested posting meeting dates and filing deadlines publicly in advance; board supported it.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:37Call to order, pledge, public commentinformational · 3:10 long
  2. ▶ 3:47Chair and director reports: master plan, fees, MBTA zoning, work planinformational · 8:45 long · planning and zoning, fees, housing
  3. ▶ 12:53494 Electric Avenue storm water and site plan hearing, Pierce Ave ownershippeer review authorized, continued to Nov 25 · 1:27:38 long · planning and zoning, legal, public comment
  4. ▶ 1:42:09791 Lemonster Road storm water hearing and peer review debatepeer review required, continued to Nov 25 · 30:30 long · planning and zoning, fees, public comment
  5. ▶ 2:12:39795 Lemonster Road storm water hearingpeer review required, continued · 8:01 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  6. ▶ 2:20:4070 Kilburn Street storm water hearingpeer review required, continued · 16:53 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  7. ▶ 2:37:331260 Reservoir Road site plan approval, PJ Keatingapproved · 12:11 long · planning and zoning, economic development
  8. ▶ 2:50:27Decisions: 255 Sunny Hill and 1335 Mass Ave signedsigned · 17:49 long · planning and zoning, legal
  9. ▶ 3:08:16Certificate of completion, 319 Highland Streetapproved · 10:51 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 3:19:07Abutting community noticesinformational · 6:38 long · planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 3:25:45Committee reportsinformational · 9:38 long · capital, facilities, personnel
  12. ▶ 3:35:23Meeting schedule, public posting of dates, adjournmentadjourned · 6:57 long · policy

What the captions could not carry

  • Exact roll-call responses are partly garbled; all recorded votes appear unanimous but individual votes were not cleanly captioned.
  • The 88 parking spaces figure and the 119 total were stated inconsistently in captions.
  • Last name of the land use director is heard as Riley; first name Chris.
  • Minutes approval for September 9 was not taken.

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