What was said
Planning Board, January 13, 2025
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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 42:59The Planning Board approved stormwater permits for 791 and 795 Lemonster Road and 70 Kilburn Street after closing each public hearing.
- ▶ 1:04:45It approved the stormwater permit and a common-driveway special permit for 171 Arbor Street, with a condition that a shared-maintenance framework be recorded on the deeds.
- ▶ 1:22:01It approved a modification to the site plan and special permit for a shed at 230 Flat Hill Road.
- ▶ 1:40:28It required a peer review deposit from the applicant at 255 Sunny Hill Road, then continued that hearing and two others (494 Electric Ave, 558/560 Goodrich Street) to January 27.
- ▶ 1:46:28The chair will put Master Plan Steering Committee membership on the next agenda and consult the Town Clerk on quorum.
Why it matters — our reading
- Stormwater permits and peer review rules decide who pays to manage drainage: members said the town budget has no money for peer review, so applicants fund it, and a drainage failure can fall on abutting homeowners.
- Conditions recorded on deeds, such as maintenance duties for shared driveways and drainage, pass to later owners of those properties.
- The Master Plan Steering Committee's quorum problem could affect when the town's long-range planning work can proceed.
Watch next
- January 27 at 6:05 p.m.: continued hearings for 255 Sunny Hill Road, 494 Electric Ave and 558/560 Goodrich Street, plus a zoning workshop on the ADU and floodplain bylaws.
- The next meeting, where staff will bring the drafted 171 Arbor Street decision for review before signing.
capitaleconomic developmentfeeshousingplanning and zoningpublic commenttown meetingwarrant article
Present: Chair (unnamed) (chair); Mr Riley (land use director / staff); Mr Allison (member); Logan (planning staff (Zoom monitor)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 20:50Close the public hearing for the stormwater permit at 791 Lemonster Road.passed
- ▶ 23:41Approve the stormwater permit for 791 Lemonster Road with standard conditions and deed recording of maintenance requirements.passed
- ▶ 29:37Close the public hearing for 795 Lemonster Road.passed
- ▶ 30:23Approve the stormwater permit for 795 Lemonster Road with standard conditions.passed
- ▶ 37:03Close the public hearing for 70 Kilburn Street.passed
- ▶ 42:59Approve 70 Kilburn Street stormwater permit as proposed with standard conditions.passed
- ▶ 54:52Close public hearings for 171 Arbor Street (stormwater permit and common driveway special permit).passed
- ▶ 56:05Approve the stormwater management permit for 171 Arbor Street with all standard conditions.passed
- ▶ 1:04:45Approve the special permit for the common driveway at 171 Arbor Street with site plan standard conditions and a condition that a legal framework for shared maintenance be recorded on deeds.passed
- ▶ 1:20:38Close the public hearing for 230 Flat Hill Road.passed
- ▶ 1:22:01Approve modification to site plan approval and special permit for 230 Flat Hill Road as proposed with standard conditions.passed
- ▶ 1:28:42Require submission of a peer review deposit from the applicant, assigned to Graves Engineering, for 255 Sunny Hill Road.passed
- ▶ 1:39:01Continue the public hearing for the 255 Sunny Hill Road stormwater permit to January 27 at 6:05 p.m.passed
- ▶ 1:40:28Continue public hearings for 494 Electric Ave and 558/560 Goodrich Street to January 27 at 6:05 p.m.passed
And 2 procedural: approve minutes of october 28, 2024 and november 25, 2024. (▶ 2:11:16); adjourn. (▶ 2:13:04).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 13 agree, 2 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.
- differsVotes to close public hearings (791 Lemonster, 795 Lemonster, 70 Kilburn, 171 Arbor, 230 Flat Hill)▶ 20:50
recording Close the public hearing for the stormwater permit at 791 Lemonster Road. — passed (also 795 Lemonster Road t=1777, 70 Kilburn Street t=2223, 171 Arbor Street t=3292, 230 Flat Hill Road t=4838)
town’s minutes —
Our minutes record five votes to close hearings; the official minutes record none. Check the recording at these times, and whether the official minutes left out the closings or the board closed them without a vote.
recording The chair will put the Master Plan Steering Committee composition on the next agenda and the chair and staff will consult the Town Clerk on quorum.
town’s minutes “m. brenner noted the town clerk should have this info and will follow up.”
Both involve the Town Clerk, but ours is about quorum and agenda placement, while the official minutes are about getting the committee's background documents (charge, consultants' contract). Check the recording to see whether these are the same discussion or two items.
2 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
- Street name Leominster Road:791 Lemonster Road→Leominster Rd▶ 23:41
- Land use director's name:Mr Riley (land use director / staff)→Christopher Reilly
In one record only: 8 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Peer review cost to applicant: Peer review cost to applicant: $6,000, $2,000 per peer revie ▶ 37:44
- Recording only — Cost of drainage failure to neighbors: Cost of drainage failure to neighbors: $1,000 a year ▶ 39:48
- Recording only — Capital planning figure: Capital planning: five and 10e plan ▶ 1:56:40
- Recording only — MBTA Communities zoning plan direction: Staff recommended, and the chair indicated the board would proceed with, the MBTA Communities zoning plan toward fall town meeting after public engagement despite the Supreme Court ruling. ▶ 8:26
- Recording only — Zoning workshop Jan 27: A zoning workshop was set for January 27 to begin work on the ADU and floodplain bylaws for annual town meeting. ▶ 6:27
- Recording only — 171 Arbor Street decision drafting: Staff will draft the 171 Arbor Street decision, with the standard conditions and HOA/maintenance condition, for review at the next meeting before signing. ▶ 1:02:58
- Recording only — Joint meeting with Open Space Committee: The chair agreed to schedule a joint meeting with the Open Space Committee if they request one. ▶ 1:54:34
- Recording only — Next meeting dates: Next meetings: January 27 and February 10; February 17 is not a meeting night. ▶ 2:12:01
- Town’s minutes only — Other board members present: “present: matthew brenner (chair), timothy willsmer (vice chair), amanda reid (clerk), matthew allison, glenn mcleod”
- Town’s minutes only — Applicant representatives and engineer: “ryan proctor , presenting on behalf of applicant timric realty trust , read the comments from the latest gei”
- Town’s minutes only — Public comment from residents: “raymond lajoie (245 leominster rd) was opposed to the previous application submitted for this site, asked if the current application's design diverts drainage into the wetlands below”
Compared 2026-10-07. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 37:44Peer review cost to applicant
A board member questioned the cost to the applicant of three peer reviews on the related lots; the board defended peer review as standard and protective.
as heard:$6,000$2,000 per peer revie
- ▶ 1:28:42Peer review deposit, 255 Sunny Hill Road
The board voted to require the applicant to submit a peer review deposit for Graves Engineering.
as heard:$2,000
- ▶ 39:48Cost of drainage failure to neighbors
A member said a drainage problem could cost an abutting homeowner an ongoing yearly amount.
as heard:$1,000 a year
- ▶ 41:53Town budget for peer review
A member said there is no money in the town budget for peer review, so applicants fund it.
- ▶ 1:24:12Past-due taxes at 255 Sunny Hill Road
Staff noted the property has past-due taxes; any approval should require taxes paid in full before permits issue.
- ▶ 1:56:40Capital planning
The capital planning committee submitted capital rankings this cycle and will next work on the long-range plan.
as heard:five and 10e plan
- ▶ 2:05:38Transportation Improvement Program funding
Staff described TIP as the main federal transportation funding pool; Lunenburg has had no projects in it in some years.
- ▶ 2:08:26Town manager search consultant
A member said the consultant for the town manager search was likely worth the cost given the small amount the town spent.
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 8:26Staff recommended, and the chair indicated the board would proceed with, the MBTA Communities zoning plan toward fall town meeting after public engagement despite the Supreme Court ruling.
- ▶ 6:27A zoning workshop was set for January 27 to begin work on the ADU and floodplain bylaws for annual town meeting.
- ▶ 1:02:58Staff will draft the 171 Arbor Street decision, with the standard conditions and HOA/maintenance condition, for review at the next meeting before signing.
- ▶ 1:46:28The chair will put the Master Plan Steering Committee composition on the next agenda and the chair and staff will consult the Town Clerk on quorum.
- ▶ 1:54:34The chair agreed to schedule a joint meeting with the Open Space Committee if they request one.
- ▶ 2:12:01Next meetings: January 27 and February 10; February 17 is not a meeting night.
Public comment
- ▶ 3:41General public comment at the opening: none offered.
- ▶ 1:33:53Asked whether 255 Sunny Hill Road is the same parcel as the earlier larger development, and whether drainage would harm the wetlands or wildlife. — Raymond lejoy, as heard, resident of 245 Lemonster Road
- ▶ 1:36:17Confirmed the same concern: that the driveway would be on Sunny Hill Road, not Lemonster Road. — Mike Chapan, as heard, resident of 208 Lemonster Road
- ▶ 2:13:04Closing public comment: none.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- planning and zoning125 min · 94%
- fees50 min · 38%
- capital29 min · 22%
- economic development29 min · 22%
- public comment17 min · 13%
- warrant article6 min · 4%
- housing6 min · 4%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:21Opening, pledge, continuances announced, public commentinformational · 4:03 long
- ▶ 4:24Chair and director report: permitting pipeline, ADU/floodplain bylaws, MBTA zoning rulinginformational · 5:55 long · planning and zoning, warrant article, housing
- ▶ 10:19Stormwater hearings: 791 and 795 Lemonster Road, 70 Kilburn Street, and peer review cost discussionvoted; all approved · 33:21 long · planning and zoning, fees
- ▶ 43:40171 Arbor Street stormwater permit and common driveway special permitvoted; approved · 22:10 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:05:50230 Flat Hill Road shed modification to site plan and special permitvoted; approved · 16:53 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:22:43255 Sunny Hill Road stormwater permit, peer review, public commentcontinued to January 27 · 17:04 long · planning and zoning, public comment, fees
- ▶ 1:39:47Continuation of 494 Electric Ave and 558/560 Goodrich Street hearingsvoted; continued · 1:02 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:40:49Community notices and committee reports (Master Plan, Open Space, Municipal Building, Capital Planning, EDC, regional bodies, town manager screening)informational · 28:43 long · planning and zoning, capital, economic development
- ▶ 2:09:32Minutes, meeting schedule, adjournmentvoted; minutes approved; adjourned · 3:53 long
What the captions could not carry
- Vote counts were not stated for any motion; only 'all in favor' with audible ayes.
- Who made or seconded each motion is not identifiable from the captions.
- Chair and member names are largely not captured by the captions.
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