What was said
Select Board, September 19, 2017
the recording · 2:26 long, about 20,197 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/select-board/2017.json
The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 10:20The Select Board heard that Comcast cable license talks are stalled over the share of revenue and the size of a capital grant.
- ▶ 1:39:30The DPW director proposed fees for cutting newly paved roads; the director and town manager, with counsel, will draft a fee schedule and check neighboring towns.
- ▶ 1:00:35The water district briefed the board on the Lancaster expansion and permit limits; the board will check whether a letter of support for the grant can still be filed.
- ▶ 1:43:02A motion to send a letter of support for a regional truck traffic study was made; the minutes do not capture the result.
- ▶ 1:08:40The board kept the October 10th boards and committees workshop and set an economic development workshop for November 14th.
Why it matters — our reading
- A new cable license would set what subscribers pay each month in fees, and a new road-cut fee schedule would add costs for utilities and contractors that dig into newly paved streets.
- Turkey Hill roof and renovation costs, and the water district's expansion and permit limits, bear on future capital requests and on water service.
Watch next
- October 3rd: the board meets to discuss a solar pilot agreement, and the Planning Board is to be sent a memo.
- October 10th: the boards and committees workshop and the postponed executive session.
capitaleconomic developmentfacilitiesfeeslegalmsbaplanning and zoningpublic commentroads and dpwtown departmentsturkey hillwater sewer
Present: Jamie toll (member (absent)); Damon McQuaid (member (absent)); Heather (town manager); Tom Alonzo (presenter, chair of the cable advisory committee); Frame a gryphon (presenter, water district superintendent); Mike Flagg (presenter, water commissioner); Gregg Bittner (planning board chair); Jack (DPW director); Mr. Ebersol (member); Phyllis (member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 5:36Ratify the Charter Review Committee town moderator appointment and the School Committee appointment.passed unanimously
- ▶ 5:57Ratify the town manager's appointment of a Martin van driver.not audible
- ▶ 1:43:02Approve and send a letter of support for a heavy commercial vehicle exclusion zone traffic study by the regional planning commission.not audible
And 1 procedural: adjourn. (▶ 2:26:27).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 13 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 6 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.
recording Ratify the town manager's appointment of a Martin van driver. — not audible
town’s minutes “motion: p. bertram to ratity the appointment of leeann normandin as mart van driver”
Same item, with 'Martin van' as a caption error for MART van. Ours records no outcome and the official minutes say it passed, so check the recording for the outcome.
recording Approve and send a letter of support for a heavy commercial vehicle exclusion zone traffic study by the regional planning commission. — not audible
town’s minutes “motion: p. bertram to approve police chief marino's request and send a letter of support for the commercial truck traffic study and truck exclusion zones”
Ours has no outcome and the official minutes say it passed. Ours also names the regional planning commission as the study's source, which the official motion does not. Check the recording.
recording $100, $40, $50, 190, 240
town’s minutes “currently the road opening fee is $100 and the trench opening fee is $40.00.”
The $100, $40 and $50 figures match. Ours also has 190 and 240, which the official minutes do not print, and the official $100 longitudinal cut fee is not in ours. Check the recording.
recording four million dollars, 1 million dollars, 53%
town’s minutes “that mr. londa estimates will cost approximately $4m”
The $4M and $1M match. Ours says 53% where the official minutes say about 50% reimbursement, so check the recording.
recording Board will send a memo to the Planning Board that it is meeting October 3rd to discuss a solar pilot agreement.
town’s minutes “the board stated they would not disapprove the planning board taking any legal action as necessary regarding the special permit.”
The two records describe different actions on the solar matter: a memo about an October 3 meeting versus not disapproving legal action. Check the recording.
recording Mike Flagg (presenter, water commissioner)
town’s minutes “chairman mark bursch and commisioner mark flagg were also present tonight concerning questions”
Ours says Mike and the official minutes say Mark. This is probably a caption error, but check it.
4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
- Capital rate increase per subscriber:twenty-eight cents, sixty two cents→29▶ 17:41
- Attendee Jamie Toale:Jamie toll (member (absent))→Jamie Toale▶ 0:00
- Water superintendent name:Frame a gryphon (presenter, water district superintendent)→Fran McNamara▶ 0:00
- Mr. Ebersol and Phyllis:Mr. Ebersol (member)→Robert Ebersole▶ 0:00
In one record only: 8 from the recording, 5 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — 3200 subscribers: 3200 subscribers ▶ 17:41
- Recording only — Public access business plan capital requirement: three hundred and forty thousand dollar ▶ 14:48
- Recording only — Town Hall work spent to date: a hundred and sixty thousand six hundred and fifty ▶ 2:12:55
- Recording only — Economic development grants: 96 thousand dollar ▶ 1:11:06
- Recording only — November 14 economic development workshop: Economic development next-step workshop is planned for November 14th, with stakeholders to be invited. ▶ 1:08:40
- Recording only — Fee schedule drafting: DPW director and town manager, with counsel, will draft a fee schedule including extra-inspection charges and check what neighboring towns charge. ▶ 1:39:30
- Recording only — Designer selection procedures: Designer selection procedures to be put on a future agenda for updating. ▶ 2:16:27
- Recording only — Gregg Bittner as planning board chair: Gregg Bittner (planning board chair) ▶ 0:00
- Town’s minutes only — Construction and payroll deduction warrants: “a middle/high school construction warrant in the amount of $110,234.99”
- Town’s minutes only — Verizon tower lease amendment: “the board signed the first amendment to the agreement. it addresses relocation of the tower site on the middle/high school property.”
- Town’s minutes only — Special Town Meeting date: “ms. lemiuex will check with the availability of town moderator, town clerk and legal counsel.”
- Town’s minutes only — Water permit gallons and district office space figures: “the new permit review gives lunenburg an average of 505,000 gallons per day, based on historical use from 2010-2015.”
- Town’s minutes only — Other attendees: “chris letarte, 282 whalom road, has formed a group which includes his neighbors called friends of wallis”
Compared 2026-11-06. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 6:26Accounts payable and payroll warrants
Several warrants were read for approval; the vote is not captured.
as heard:1 million 96 thousand five hundred and eighty six dollars and 56 centsseven hundred sixty eight thousand two ninety four and fifty cents
- ▶ 10:20Comcast cable license: operating support percentage and capital grant
Town seeks a higher share of gross revenue and a larger capital grant; Comcast offered the percentage but a smaller capital grant.
as heard:5%2.5240,000 dollars115a hundred and thirty thousand dollars
- ▶ 17:41Cable subscriber cost impact
Subscribers would pay roughly double per month under the proposal, for both the fee and capital portions.
as heard:2 dollars and 60five dollars and 20 centstwenty-eight centssixty two cents3200 subscribers
- ▶ 14:48Public access business plan capital requirement
The plan was pared down from an initial capital requirement.
as heard:three hundred and forty thousand dollar
- ▶ 54:23Pavement management override and water pipe coordination
A member noted the override for road paving and asked the water district to coordinate pipe replacement with paving.
as heard:five million dollars
- ▶ 1:16:50Newly paved road disturbance fees
DPW director proposed a hardship exemption permit fee on top of existing road opening and trench permits, with a higher fee for longitudinal cuts.
as heard:$100$40$50190240
- ▶ 2:03:13Turkey Hill capital costs
Facilities director estimates major renovations and a roof replacement, with the roof MSBA-eligible.
as heard:four million dollars1 million dollars53%
- ▶ 1:55:09Town Hall air duct cleaning
Cleaning the air ducts is estimated at about this amount.
as heard:$3,000
- ▶ 2:12:55Town Hall work spent to date
Spend to date on mold and related work was stated.
as heard:a hundred and sixty thousand six hundred and fifty
- ▶ 1:53:47DOER technical assistance grant
The town was awarded a technical assistance grant for green communities grant administration.
as heard:$5,000
- ▶ 1:51:38Building permit technology fee
The town can add a technology fee to building permits; a revolving fund placeholder article is planned for special town meeting.
- ▶ 1:11:06Economic development grants
A grant example from Bolton for green space was cited as a funding possibility.
as heard:96 thousand dollar
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 8:53Executive session at the end of the meeting is not being held; it moves to October 10th.
- ▶ 1:07:11October 10th boards and committees workshop stays on schedule, with each committee sending one designee and being sent the board's goals in advance.
- ▶ 1:08:40Economic development next-step workshop is planned for November 14th, with stakeholders to be invited.
- ▶ 1:39:30DPW director and town manager, with counsel, will draft a fee schedule including extra-inspection charges and check what neighboring towns charge.
- ▶ 1:00:35Check whether a letter of support for the Lancaster water grant can still be filed, and put it on next week's agenda if so.
- ▶ 1:46:28Board will send a memo to the Planning Board that it is meeting October 3rd to discuss a solar pilot agreement.
- ▶ 2:16:27Designer selection procedures to be put on a future agenda for updating.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.
Named in the running text, not in a list:
- Letter from Police Chief Marino requesting support for a truck traffic survey by MRPC
- Draft letter to Glenn Eaton, Executive Director at MRC
- Traffic Rules and Orders
- Committee/board overview template
- Tappe Space Needs Assessment
- Spreadsheet of current and projected square footage
- Preliminary figures for the Town Hall (building condition assessment), attached
- Invitation to Bid (Town Hall Painting Project)
- Public Records Retention Schedule
- 780 CMR Section 109.2
- Memorandum of Understanding between the Lunenburg Water District and Lancaster
- Public Access Cable Committee (PACC) business plan
Heard in the recording
- ▶ 9:34two letters from our Town Councilletter or email, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Letter from Police Chief Marino requesting support for a truck traffic survey by MRPC”)
- ▶ 14:28the business planreport, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Public Access Cable Committee (PACC) business plan”)
- ▶ 57:33Memorandum of Understanding with Lancastercontract or agreement, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Memorandum of Understanding between the Lunenburg Water District and Lancaster”)
- ▶ 1:03:00fillable committee information formother, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Committee/board overview template”)
- ▶ 1:14:39fee schedule recommendationmemo, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 1:39:51letter of support and police chief letterletter or email, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Letter from Police Chief Marino requesting support for a truck traffic survey by MRPC”)
- ▶ 2:06:24TAPA space needs studyreport, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Tappe Space Needs Assessment”)
- ▶ 2:11:50Town Hall estimates with escalatorspreadsheet, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Invitation to Bid (Town Hall Painting Project)”)
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Public comment
- ▶ 0:21Friends of Wallace Park cleanup and playground revitalization this Thursday and Friday; asked for volunteers. — Chris the tart, 283 Whalum Road, as heard, resident
- ▶ 2:17:08Turkey Hill future school space needs, student growth, and challenge to the TAPA office space square footage figures. — Keeley Adams, Williams Drive, as heard, resident
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- roads and dpw64 min · 44%
- fees45 min · 31%
- economic development40 min · 27%
- facilities35 min · 24%
- turkey hill35 min · 24%
- water sewer33 min · 23%
- capital26 min · 18%
- legal19 min · 13%
- town departments19 min · 13%
- public comment14 min · 10%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:00Pledge and openinginformational · 0:21 long
- ▶ 0:21Public comment: Wallace Park cleanupinformational · 4:55 long · public comment, recreation
- ▶ 5:16Appointments, warrants, and Verizon lease amendmentvoted · 2:40 long · personnel, contracts and unions
- ▶ 9:13Cable Advisory Committee update on Comcast license negotiationsinformational · 18:32 long · fees, legal, town departments
- ▶ 28:05Water district: Lancaster expansion, water permit, restrictions, White Street maininformational; letter of support to be revisited · 33:12 long · water sewer, economic development, roads and dpw
- ▶ 1:01:17Boards and committees workshop planninginformational · 6:16 long · policy
- ▶ 1:07:33Economic development next stepsworkshop date set · 6:20 long · economic development
- ▶ 1:13:53Fees for disturbing newly paved roadsreferred for further drafting · 25:58 long · fees, roads and dpw
- ▶ 1:39:51Letter of support for truck traffic studymotion made; result not captured · 4:34 long · roads and dpw, public safety
- ▶ 1:44:25Solar PILOT and Planning Boardinformational · 3:26 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:47:5124/7 public safety coverage and budget processto be handled in budget discussion · 1:41 long · public safety, budget
- ▶ 1:49:32Committee reportsinformational · 1:43 long
- ▶ 1:51:15Town manager report: grants, Town Hall mold, records, dispatch, special town meeting, Turkey Hill capital, space needs, building assessmentinformational · 25:53 long · facilities, turkey hill, capital
- ▶ 2:17:08Public comment: Turkey Hill and space needs figuresinformational · 9:19 long · public comment, facilities, turkey hill
- ▶ 2:26:27Adjournmentmotion to adjourn · 0:13 long
What the captions could not carry
- Outcome of the vote on the market van driver appointment.
- Outcome and count of the vote on the letter of support for the truck traffic study.
- Outcome of the adjournment vote.
- Whether the warrants were voted on.
- A stretch between about 476 and 533 is not captioned.
Reports this meeting suggests
Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.
- ▶ 2:06:24TC Passios building costsWhat are the space needs and the repair costs of the town's buildings, and how do the office space figures add up?
- ▶ 2:03:13Turkey Hill capital needsWhat will Turkey Hill's roof and renovations cost and when would MSBA reimbursement apply?already answered:
thread:turkey-hill-rebuild - ▶ 10:20Cable franchise revenueWhat would the proposed cable license fee and capital grant cost subscribers?
- ▶ 1:16:50Road opening feesWhat fees apply to cutting newly paved roads and do they cover inspection costs?
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