What was said

Select Board, November 7, 2017

the recording · 2:08 long, about 16,672 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda, an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 58:39The Select Board spent most of the evening on a facilities workshop covering Town Hall, the Ritter building, Brooks House, the old primary school and TCP; no budget vote was taken.
  2. ▶ 1:53:14The board agreed to aim for a December 2 walking tour and a December 7 charette on town buildings.
  3. ▶ 37:54The board reviewed special Town Meeting articles: an FY18 budget adjustment and a transfer of an unspent balance for conceptual design of municipal offices.
  4. ▶ 34:15The board voted to accept road-cut fee schedules as proposed; the minutes record the vote as not audible.
  5. ▶ 6:55The board approved a liquor license transfer and a peddlers license, and made several appointments; the vote tallies were not audible.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Where town offices end up, and whether Town Hall and other old buildings are repaired or replaced, will shape future capital requests that residents vote on at Town Meeting and pay for through taxes.
  • The special Town Meeting articles would move money between town accounts, and the road-cut fees set what utilities and contractors pay to dig up town roads.

Watch next

  • December 2 walking tour of town buildings and December 7 charette, as the board agreed to aim for.
  • The special Town Meeting vote on the FY18 budget adjustment and the municipal office conceptual design transfer.

budgetcapitaleconomic developmentfacilitiesfeesgrantslegalplanning and zoningpublic commentroads and dpwtown departmentstown meetingtransferswarrant article

Present: Town Manager (town manager); DPW director (Jack) (presenter); Town Accountant/Finance presenter (presenter). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 6:55Approve transfer of alcohol license for Honey Farms location and change of managernot audible
  2. ▶ 9:44Approve peddlers license as requestednot audible
  3. ▶ 12:43Appoint three Cultural Council candidatesnot audible
  4. ▶ 14:54Appoint Robert Cadle to Zoning Board of Appealsnot audible
  5. ▶ 15:34Reappoint Scott Chase to Personnel Committeenot audible
  6. ▶ 34:15Accept road-cut fee schedules as proposednot audible

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 2:08:03).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 0 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 13 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsHoney Farms alcohol license transfer and manager change vote▶ 6:55

    recording Approve transfer of alcohol license for Honey Farms location and change of manager — not audible

    town’s minutes —

    Vote in our minutes with no counterpart in the official minutes; check whether the official document is for the right meeting.

  2. differsPeddlers license vote▶ 9:44

    recording Approve peddlers license as requested — not audible

    town’s minutes —

    Vote not recorded in the official minutes; verify the official minutes are the Select Board's for 2017-11-07.

  3. differsCultural Council appointments vote▶ 12:43

    recording Appoint three Cultural Council candidates — not audible

    town’s minutes —

    Appointment vote absent from the official minutes.

  4. differsRobert Cadle ZBA appointment▶ 14:54

    recording Appoint Robert Cadle to Zoning Board of Appeals — not audible

    town’s minutes —

    Appointment vote absent from the official minutes.

  5. differsScott Chase Personnel Committee reappointment▶ 15:34

    recording Reappoint Scott Chase to Personnel Committee — not audible

    town’s minutes —

    Reappointment vote absent from the official minutes.

  6. differsRoad-cut fee schedules vote▶ 34:15

    recording Accept road-cut fee schedules as proposed — not audible

    town’s minutes —

    Vote absent from the official minutes; check the official record for this meeting.

  7. differsStatutory exemptions vote▶ 0:00

    recording —

    town’s minutes “board voted to grant all application exemptions in the amount of $11,476.00”

    Vote in the official minutes only, and it reads like an assessors' meeting; our recording has no such vote.

  8. differsSingle tax rate vote▶ 0:00

    recording —

    town’s minutes “the board voted to approve the single tax rate.”

    Vote in the official minutes only; check whether the official minutes belong to a different body or meeting.

  9. differsChapter 61A applications tabled▶ 0:00

    recording —

    town’s minutes “the boa voted to "table" four applications for further information”

    Vote in the official minutes only; not in our minutes.

  10. differsTransfer from article 10 unexpended balance to conceptual design▶ 50:11

    recording Unexpended balance from article 10 of the May 2016 annual Town Meeting to conceptual design of municipal offices — 10,000 (discussed only)

    town’s minutes —

    The official minutes record no transfers; we recorded this one as discussed only, so confirm whether it was voted.

  11. differsDecember walking tour and charette decision▶ 1:53:14

    recording Board agreed to aim for a December 2 walking tour and a December 7 charette.

    town’s minutes —

    Decision absent from the official minutes, whose decisions concern vouchers, Town Counsel on Chapter 61A, and billing deadlines.

  12. differsOfficial decisions not in our minutes▶ 0:00

    recording —

    town’s minutes “the boa recommended that an appointment be set up with town counsel to discuss”

    Decision in the official minutes with no counterpart in our recording.

  13. differsAttendees▶ 0:00

    recording Town Manager; DPW director (Jack); Town Accountant/Finance presenter

    town’s minutes “louise paquette - administrative assessor,”

    The attendee lists have no overlap, apart from possibly the accountant (Karen Brochu). The official minutes appear to be for the Board of Assessors, so check which meeting they cover.

In one record only: 4 from the recording, 2 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Town Hall painting capital appropriation: Town Hall painting capital appropriation: eighty-seven thousand seven fifty ▶ 20:14
  • Recording only — Complete Streets technical assistance award: Complete Streets technical assistance award: thirty seven thousand nine forty three and thirty cents ▶ 31:00
  • Recording only — Road cut fee schedule amounts: Road cut fee schedule: $100, $250, three hundred and fifty dollars ▶ 33:31
  • Recording only — Article 1 FY18 budget adjustment: Article 1 FY18 budget adjustment: 172 722, 50,000, 120 to 722 ▶ 37:54
  • Town’s minutes only — Estimated FY2018 tax rate: “the estimated tax rate is $19.70”
  • Town’s minutes only — Personal property growth and levy figures: “rrc has reported $4,795,020 in "growth" for fy18.”

Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

Transfers

atwhat movedamount, as heardoutcome
▶ 50:11Unexpended balance from article 10 of the May 2016 annual Town Meeting to conceptual design of municipal offices10,000discussed only

The money

  1. ▶ 20:14Town Hall painting capital appropriation

    The full capital appropriation is likely to be used because of extensive rot.

    as heard:eighty-seven thousand seven fifty

  2. ▶ 31:00Complete Streets technical assistance award

    The town received an award for a prioritization plan.

    as heard:thirty seven thousand nine forty three and thirty cents

  3. ▶ 33:31Road cut fee schedule

    Fees proposed for lateral and longitudinal cuts.

    as heard:$100$250three hundred and fifty dollars

  4. ▶ 37:54Article 1 FY18 budget adjustment

    Reserve fund and facilities account increases are proposed from extra new growth and state aid.

    as heard:172 72250,000120 to 722

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:53:14Board agreed to aim for a December 2 walking tour and a December 7 charette.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed fiscal year 2018 tax classification hearing:

  • Fiscal Year 2018 Tax Classification Hearing presentation, November 14, 2017 @7:30PM

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Affidavit Pursuant to M.G.L. CH. 61 B (recorded October 30, 2017, Bk 8947 Pg 272)
  • Chapter Land Classification FY19 applications (Chapter 61A)
  • DOR reports LA-13, LA-13A, LA-15, LA-4
  • Form LA-5 Classification Form

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 17:1921E assessmentreport· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 35:18Article 1 slidespresentation· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:00:07TAPA studyreport· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Fiscal Year 2018 Tax Classification Hearing presentation, November 14, 2017 @7:30PM.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 2:46Announced the Boys and Girls Club rock and auction fundraiser on November 18th. — Tom Alonzo, 284 Lancaster Avenue, as heard, Boys and Girls Club board member
  2. ▶ 2:00:45Proposed a municipal campus at the Ritter and old primary parcels instead of moving offices to TCP. — Katie Adams from Williams Drive, as heard

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Announcements and public commentinformational · 4:51 long · public comment, elections
  2. ▶ 4:51Licensesvoted · 5:19 long
  3. ▶ 10:10Appointmentsvoted · 6:26 long · personnel
  4. ▶ 16:36Town Manager reportinformational · 15:26 long · facilities, grants
  5. ▶ 32:02Road cut fee schedulevoted · 2:34 long · fees, roads and dpw
  6. ▶ 34:36Special Town Meeting articlesinformational · 22:39 long · warrant article, town meeting, budget
  7. ▶ 57:15Warrantssigned · 1:24 long
  8. ▶ 58:39Facilities workshopinformational · 1:02:06 long · facilities, capital, planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 2:00:45Public commentinformational · 7:18 long · public comment

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote outcomes were mostly not captured
  • Speaker identities were not given

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 58:39Town office spaceWhat would moving town offices to TCP cost versus keeping existing buildings?already answered: thread:town-offices

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