What was said
Select Board, February 13, 2018
the recording · 1:57 long, about 16,064 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/select-board/2018.json
The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 1:02:52The Select Board agreed to plow the full sidewalk from the end of the Mass Ave sidewalk to St. Boniface, while following up with the state and town counsel on liability.
- ▶ 9:27Vertex presented condition assessments for Town Hall, Ritter, TC Passios, the old primary school and Brooks House; the old primary school was rated very poor.
- ▶ 33:46Board members questioned abatement and demolition costs, which Vertex described as conservative estimates based on visual review only, and said repairing all five buildings must come down significantly.
- ▶ 57:05The board sorted its agenda-items list, making social media policy a workshop and Lake Shirley access and BYOB/liquor rules agenda items.
- ▶ 1:52:20Vertex reports are to be posted on the town website, with Eagle House and Turkey Hill reports expected in two to three weeks.
Why it matters — our reading
- The condition assessments are the cost basis for decisions on five town and school buildings, which would likely be paid through taxes or borrowing, so residents may be asked to vote on any project that follows.
- A resident asked about the town's bonding capacity and about Vertex's fee, and the minutes do not record a clear answer on either, so how much the town can borrow is still unstated.
Watch next
- Vertex reports on Eagle House and Turkey Hill, expected in two to three weeks, and posting of the Vertex reports on the town website.
capitalexecutive sessionfacilitieslegalplanning and zoningpolicyprimary schoolpublic commentroads and dpwtown departmentstown meetingturkey hill
Present: Mr. Eric Nelson (presenter (Vertex)); Mr. Steve Kirby (presenter (Vertex)); Mr. Philip Russo (presenter (Vertex)); Town Manager (town manager); Mrs. Bertram (member); Mr. McQuade (member); Mr. Ebersol (member); Mrs. Locke (member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 1:02:52Plow the entire length of the sidewalk from the end of the Mass Ave sidewalk to St. Boniface, while continuing to follow up with the state and town counsel on liability.not audible
And 1 procedural: enter executive session under chapter 30a section 21 reason 2 for contract negotiations with non-union personnel (town manager's contract), not to return to public session. (▶ 1:57:15).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 6 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 6 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.
recording Plow the entire length of the sidewalk from the end of the Mass Ave sidewalk to St. Boniface, while continuing to follow up with the state and town counsel on liability. — not audible
town’s minutes —
Our minutes record a vote or decision on sidewalk plowing; the official minutes list no votes and do not mention it. Check the recording and the official text to see whether it was a vote and what the outcome was.
recording eight million three hundred and seventy thousand seven hundred and thirty one dollars
town’s minutes “the low bid came in $1.2 m under the office estimate.”
Our minutes give an $8,370,731 figure that the official minutes do not. It may be the office estimate, but $7,105,195 plus $1.2M is about $8.3M, so check the recording.
recording Primary school condition assessment: seventy, 1.1 million dollar
town’s minutes “total immediate repairs would amount to $1,027,280. short term repairs came in at $775,000.”
Our captions give about $1.1 million, while the official minutes give $1,027,280 immediate and $775,000 short term. They may be different totals, so check the recording.
recording Total repair of five buildings: 2.3 million, 6.6 million
town’s minutes “immediate repairs total $794,000. short term repairs totalled $2,173,000.”
Our figures of $2.3M and $6.6M for five buildings do not match the per-building figures in the official minutes. Check the recording.
- differsRoll-call vote recorded in official minutes
recording —
town’s minutes “vote: mr. mcquaid-aye, ms. luck- aye, ms. bertram -aye, mr. ebersole- aye, mr. toale-aye”
The official minutes record a 5-0 roll call, but the structured vote list is empty and the motion is not stated. Our minutes have no matching vote, so check the motion in the official text and the recording.
- differsAttendee Mr. Toale
recording —
town’s minutes “mr. toale noted that the next steps were for the board to evaluate the data and come up with some recommendations for the town to look at.”
Mr. Toale is a present board member in the official minutes but is not among our attendees. Check the recording.
4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
In one record only: 4 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Old primary school interior allowance and abatement/demolition costs: Old primary school interior allowance: four hundred and seventy one thousand dollars ▶ 21:30
- Recording only — Community compact grant $25,000: Community compact grant: 25,000 ▶ 1:43:19
- Recording only — Social media policy workshop, Lake Shirley access, BYOB regulations: Social media and website policy to become a workshop, inviting department page managers. ▶ 57:05
- Recording only — Board not participating in Thursday's meeting: Board will not post or participate as a body in Thursday's meeting; Feb 20 meeting chair absent. ▶ 1:49:38
- Town’s minutes only — Ritter Memorial and TC Passios repair costs: “total immediate repairs would amount to $170,297 and short term repairs would cost $190,496.”
- Town’s minutes only — Bonding capacity, charrette schedule, Middle/High repairs agenda item: “ms. bertram believed the board should come up with a schedule on charrettes so people can be informed in advance and requested this be a future agenda item.”
- Town’s minutes only — Public commenters Dave Rodgers and Julia Callahan: “dave rodgers, 82 highland street, stated opeb, bmp, mpo; you all know what this is, but please clarify for”
Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 9:27Primary school condition assessment
Facility condition index rated the old primary school very poor, with immediate needs including sprinkler replacement.
as heard:seventy1.1 million dollar
- ▶ 21:30Old primary school interior allowance
A member asked what the vanilla shell interior allowance covers; Vertex said it is a general allowance that could rise or fall with use.
as heard:four hundred and seventy one thousand dollars
- ▶ 23:33Abatement and demolition costs
Abatement costs are separate from demolition costs and are conservative estimates based on visual review only.
as heard:three hundred and eight thousand four hundred dollars59 four90k37 8755337134
- ▶ 33:46Total repair of five buildings
A member said repairing all five buildings would cost a very large amount, so the number must be reduced significantly.
as heard:2.3 million6.6 million
- ▶ 44:27Summer Street reconstruction bid
Low bid came in well under the office estimate, which may require a TIP amendment.
as heard:1.2 million7 million 105 195eight million three hundred and seventy thousand seven hundred and thirty one dollars
- ▶ 1:40:46Accounts payable warrant
A warrant was presented; a member asked that HVAC and ceiling-panel payments at the school be flagged.
as heard:392,000 three hundred and thirteen dollars and eight cents
- ▶ 1:43:19Community compact grant
Stormwater consultants' mapping grant was discussed along with 319 grant submissions.
as heard:25,000
- ▶ 1:51:02Vertex study cost
A resident asked what Vertex was paid; the appropriation was discussed.
as heard:50,0001565
- ▶ 1:54:28OPEB liability
School share of retiree health liability explained.
as heard:75%48 million dollar
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 57:05Social media and website policy to become a workshop, inviting department page managers.
- ▶ 1:05:00Public access to Lake Shirley to become an agenda item with town counsel, conservation and the lake association, with prior research on town-owned parcels.
- ▶ 1:13:43Municipal towing contract removed from the list; police chief to handle.
- ▶ 1:21:28BYOB/liquor regulations to be an agenda item with the police chief rather than a workshop.
- ▶ 1:42:58Warrant questions about the school HVAC to be forwarded to the superintendent; board member asked that HVAC and ceiling-panel payments be flagged on warrants.
- ▶ 1:49:38Board will not post or participate as a body in Thursday's meeting; Feb 20 meeting chair absent.
- ▶ 1:52:20Vertex reports to be posted on the town website; Eagle House and Turkey Hill reports expected in two to three weeks.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.
Named in the running text, not in a list:
- Five Year Forecast (prepared by Ms. Lemieux)
- Community Compact grant final report
- Article 1 (Town Meeting warrant article)
- Accounts payable warrant
- Property condition assessments (PCAs) written reports
- Assessment & Needs Study (Tappe Associates)
Heard in the recording
- ▶ 1:16written property condition assessmentsreport, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Property condition assessments (PCAs) written reports”)
- ▶ 2:02Vertex presentationpresentation, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 19:23TAPA space needs studyreport· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Assessment & Needs Study (Tappe Associates)”)
- ▶ 51:26BOS agenda itemsother, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 1:18:39BYOB liquor regulationsdraft policy or bylaw, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 1:43:19community compact grant final reportreport· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Community Compact grant final report”)
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Public comment
- ▶ 1:49:59Asked for plain-language explanation of acronyms, how much Vertex was paid, when the public can ask questions on the report, and said he knew no more than before. — Mr. Rogers, as heard
- ▶ 1:53:07Asked what the town's bonding capacity is now and urged knowing it before decisions.
- ▶ 1:55:10Asked when reports on Eagle House and Turkey Hill would be ready; told two to three weeks. — Julia Callaghan, 24 Beale Street, as heard, resident
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- roads and dpw63 min · 54%
- legal57 min · 48%
- policy49 min · 42%
- facilities46 min · 39%
- capital43 min · 37%
- msba43 min · 37%
- public comment8 min · 7%
- debt7 min · 6%
- water sewer7 min · 6%
- retirement7 min · 6%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:10Announcements and public commentinformational · 0:22 long · public comment
- ▶ 0:32Vertex property condition assessmentsinformational · 43:28 long · facilities, capital, msba
- ▶ 44:07Town manager reportinformational · 7:19 long · roads and dpw, legal
- ▶ 51:26Workshop on board agenda items list incl. sidewalk plowingreferred · 49:20 long · policy, roads and dpw, legal
- ▶ 1:40:46Warrants and school HVAC concernsreferred · 2:12 long · facilities, personnel
- ▶ 1:42:58Committee reportsinformational · 6:40 long · water sewer, roads and dpw, retirement
- ▶ 1:49:38Public comment and board commentinformational · 7:22 long · public comment, debt
- ▶ 1:57:15Executive sessionvoted, count not audible · 0:21 long · executive session, personnel
What the captions could not carry
- Result and count of the sidewalk plowing motion and of the executive session roll call are not in the captions.
- Some figures in the Vertex presentation are garbled.
Reports this meeting suggests
Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.
- ▶ 9:27Building condition assessmentsWhat do the Vertex assessments say each town building needs and costs, and how do demolition and abatement compare?
- ▶ 1:53:07Debt capacityWhat is the town's bonding capacity now?
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