What was said
Select Board, January 21, 2020
the recording · 3:56 long, about 30,817 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/select-board/2020.json
The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 1:56:09The Select Board approved a 50,000 cubic yard earth removal permit at 1325 Mass Ave, 3-2, with conditions on hours, dust control, no rock crushing and screening.
- ▶ 1:54:10A motion to postpone the earth removal hearing to February 11 and invite the building commissioner and land-use director failed.
- ▶ 20:13The board voted 3-2 not to permit hunting with firearms on the town conservation land parcels.
- ▶ 3:18:25The town manager presented the FY21-25 five-year forecast; the board agreed to add a weekly budget and forecast item to its agendas until Town Meeting.
- ▶ 3:53:38The January 28 meeting will be a public forum on the five-year forecast and capital plan instead of a regular meeting.
Why it matters — our reading
- The earth removal permit allows several years of excavation and truck traffic next to homes on Townsend Harbor Road, and its conditions are the main protection for neighbors on dust, hours and septic systems.
- The forecast and the school staffing plan bear on the next tax bill and on what Town Meeting will be asked to fund, and the January 28 forum is the scheduled chance for residents to speak on them.
Watch next
- January 28 public forum on the five-year forecast and capital plan.
- The weekly budget and forecast agenda item on Select Board agendas through Town Meeting.
budgetbudget fy27capitalchapter 70debtfacilitiesfree cashhiringlegallibraryoverridepersonnelplanning and zoningpolicyprimary schoolpublic commentpublic safetyroads and dpwstaffingstate aidsuperintendent reporttax ratetown departmentstown meetingturkey hill
Present: Mr. Jeffries (member); Mrs. Adams (member); Mr. McQuaid (member); Mr. Alonza (member); Mrs. Luck (vice chair); Heather (town manager); Damon (capital planning committee representative); the superintendent (superintendent). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 20:13Do not permit hunting on the Lunenburg conservation land parcels.passed 3-2
- ▶ 29:25Approve the class 2 auto dealer license for 36 Summer Street.passed
- ▶ 1:54:10Postpone the Proctor earth removal hearing to February 11 and invite the building commissioner and land-use director.failed
- ▶ 1:56:09Approve the earth removal permit with conditions on hours, dust control, no rock crushing, and screening only the top two feet of soil, weekdays only.passed 3-2
- ▶ 2:08:47Ratify appointment of David Gallagher as Council on Aging van driver.passed
- ▶ 2:09:09Ratify appointment of Cathy Como as animal control officer.passed
- ▶ 2:12:16Appoint Patrick Callahan to the Zoning Board of Appeals until June 30, 2022.passed
- ▶ 3:38:05Sign the Colonial Power consultant agreement, same as last year's.passed
- ▶ 3:40:11Have the chair sign the town charter letter to the state representative and senator.not audible
And 1 procedural: adjourn. (▶ 3:56:09).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 9 agree, 5 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 6 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.
recording Postpone the Proctor earth removal hearing to February 11 and invite the building commissioner and land-use director. — failed
town’s minutes “vote: 2 in favor, 3 against (jeffreys, mcquaid, alonzo)”
Both show a failed vote, but official says it is not clearly tied to a motion (Jeffreys had withdrawn his continuation motion) and records the count 2-3 with Jeffreys among the no votes; check the recording for what was voted on and who voted how.
recording Approve the earth removal permit with conditions on hours, dust control, no rock crushing, and screening only the top two feet of soil, weekdays only. — passed 3-2
town’s minutes “motion: m. jeffreys to approve the earth removal permit as requested with the following conditions”
Official minutes give no vote result or count for the permit; check the recording to confirm it passed 3-2.
recording Appoint Patrick Callahan to the Zoning Board of Appeals until June 30, 2022. — passed
town’s minutes “motion: d. mcquaid 2nd: p. luck to appoint pat callahan to the zoning board of appeals with a term to expire june 30, 2022. vote: 4 in favor, 1 abstention (adams)”
Both passed, but ours gives no count while official records an Adams abstention; check the recording.
recording Sign the Colonial Power consultant agreement, same as last year's. — passed
town’s minutes “motion: d. mcquaid to sign the agreement with the broker 2nd: p. luck vote: all in favor”
Probably the same item (electric aggregation broker/consultant), but official does not name Colonial Power; confirm it is the same agreement.
recording Have the chair sign the town charter letter to the state representative and senator. — not audible
town’s minutes “to authorize the chair to sign the letters to representatve hay and senator tran requesting them to present the town charter to the state legislature vote:all in favor”
Ours could not hear the outcome; official says all in favor.
recording Library grants: $3500, $5,000
town’s minutes “they recieved a $5000 grant from hannafords to replace some bookshelves, they have another request in for another $5000”
Official gives $5000 and $5000 pending; ours has $3500 for one; check the recording.
5 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
- Animal control officer name:Ratify appointment of Cathy Como as animal control officer. — passed→Kathy Comeau▶ 2:09:09
- Warrant totals:Warrants: one hundred seventy three thousand four hundred fifty seven dollars and thirty eight cents, seven hundred eight thousand nine hundred forty six dollars and seventy six cents, eight hundred thirteen thousand sixty dollars and ninety eight cents→$708,946.46.76▶ 3:40:51
- Attendee Mr. Jeffries:Mr. Jeffries (member)→Michael-Ray Jeffreys▶ 0:00
- Attendee Mr. Alonza:Mr. Alonza (member)→Tom Alonzo▶ 0:00
- Superintendent:the superintendent (superintendent)→Supt. Burnham▶ 0:00
In one record only: 6 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — FY25 school expense and gap: FY25 school expense and gap: 46 million eight hundred and forty seven thousand dollars, four million dollars in the red, 40% increase ▶ 2:44:56
- Recording only — Colonial Power aggregation adder: Colonial Power aggregation adder: point zero zero one kilowatt hour ▶ 3:37:42
- Recording only — Weekly budget and forecast agenda item: Board will add a weekly budget and forecast discussion item to its agendas until Town Meeting. ▶ 3:18:25
- Recording only — January 28 public forum: The January 28 meeting will be a public forum on the five-year forecast and capital plan instead of a regular meeting. ▶ 3:53:38
- Recording only — Invite former state representative: Board will try to invite the former state representative to a future meeting to be recognized. ▶ 3:42:01
- Recording only — Community recognition awards: Community recognition awards to be discussed at the workshop. ▶ 3:46:35
- Town’s minutes only — Forecast and budget figures not in ours: “target budget leaves a surplus of $150,000 in free cash that could go towards”
- Town’s minutes only — Thank-you letters to Sewer Commission members: “letters of thanks were signed to joan pease and ryan stober for their service on the sewer commission.”
- Town’s minutes only — Economic Development Committee representative continued: “economic development committee bos representative-this item was continued to another agenda.”
Compared 2026-11-04. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 1:50Compost bin and rain barrel prices at the DPW
A member promoted a bundle price for compost bin and rain barrel.
as heard:$435680$19 savings
- ▶ 2:22:48New growth assumption in forecast
Forecast assumes a lower new growth figure for FY21 and a smaller one for later years.
as heard:three hundred and fifty thousandthree hundred thousand
- ▶ 2:36:16FY21 free cash use
The forecast uses a certified free cash amount for FY21, split among capital, stabilization and OPEB.
as heard:889 thousand one hundred and thirty three dollarssix hundred and seventy nine thousand one hundred and thirty threehundred thousandone hundred and ten thousand
- ▶ 2:40:41School five-year staffing plan added cost
Town manager read added yearly cost of the school staffing plan on top of the projected increase.
as heard:three hundred and thirty six thousand three hundred thirty dollars1 million one hundred and seventy eight thousand 997 dollars2 million seventy three thousand seventy dollarstwo million nine hundred and seventeen thousand three hundred fifty-seven dollarsthree million five hundred and ninety-four thousand three hundred and twenty-six
- ▶ 2:44:56FY25 school expense and gap
A member compared forecast pages and questioned a large school increase and a multi-million deficit.
as heard:46 million eight hundred and forty seven thousand dollarsfour million dollars in the red40% increase
- ▶ 3:24:19FY21 capital requests
Capital requests total was reported, with Vertex items excluded from the recommended list.
as heard:four million two hundred and thirty-nine thousand four hundred and thirty-eight dollars1 million 329 thousand 133
- ▶ 3:27:09FY21 recommended capital plan
Recommended capital plan to be funded by tax revenue and free cash.
as heard:1 million three hundred and twenty nine thousand one hundred and thirty three dollars
- ▶ 3:37:42Colonial Power aggregation adder
The broker's fee adder was confirmed as in the prior agreement.
as heard:point zero zero one kilowatt hour
- ▶ 3:40:51Warrants
Accounts payable, payroll deductions and payroll warrants were read.
as heard:one hundred seventy three thousand four hundred fifty seven dollars and thirty eight centsseven hundred eight thousand nine hundred forty six dollars and seventy six centseight hundred thirteen thousand sixty dollars and ninety eight cents
- ▶ 3:47:35Library grants
Library received a grant for shelving and has a request pending for programs.
as heard:$3500$5,000
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 3:18:25Board will add a weekly budget and forecast discussion item to its agendas until Town Meeting.
- ▶ 3:53:38The January 28 meeting will be a public forum on the five-year forecast and capital plan instead of a regular meeting.
- ▶ 3:42:01Board will try to invite the former state representative to a future meeting to be recognized.
- ▶ 3:46:35Community recognition awards to be discussed at the workshop.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The minutes print a list, headed ms. lemieux presented the five year financial forecast via a power point presentation (the entire pp is attached)
:
- Five Year Financial Forecast Power Point presentation (the entire PP is attached)
- Capital Investment Plan Presentation (Power Point Presentation is attached)
Named in the running text, not in a list:
- Public hearing notice, Class II auto dealer license, Lunenburg Auto Center, Inc., 36 Summer Street
- Public hearing notice, earth removal permit, Daniel & Jean Proctor, 1529 Massachusetts Ave.
- Letter from Dale and Gerry Erskine, 1331/1335 Massachusetts Ave.
- Letter from Land Use Director
- Stormwater pollution prevention plan package
- Sheet 3.1 (temporary measures)
- Town bylaw Article IX, section 2/2.12
- Town Financial Policy Section 3.02 (Policy on Capital Expenditures)
Heard in the recording
- ▶ 14:39Conservation Commission's land-use policydraft policy or bylaw, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Letter from Land Use Director”)
- ▶ 34:40earth removal plans and figuresplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Public hearing notice, earth removal permit, Daniel & Jean Proctor, 1529 Massachusetts Ave.”)
- ▶ 58:21letter from the Erskinesletter or email· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Letter from Dale and Gerry Erskine, 1331/1335 Massachusetts Ave.”)
- ▶ 2:16:33five-year forecast documentpresentation, shown· in the minutes’ list (“Five Year Financial Forecast Power Point presentation (the entire PP is attached)”)
- ▶ 3:22:33capital planreport, shown· in the minutes’ list (“Capital Investment Plan Presentation (Power Point Presentation is attached)”)
- ▶ 3:37:42Colonial Power consultant agreementcontract or agreement, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 3:38:49town charter documents and letter from Town Councilletter or email, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Letter from Dale and Gerry Erskine, 1331/1335 Massachusetts Ave.”)
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Public comment
- ▶ 4:00Two residents asked permission to hunt with firearms on town conservation land. — Paul long, as heard, resident
- ▶ 13:57Conservation Commission land use policy prohibits firearm discharge on its land except Hunting Hill; spoke as himself. — Bob Pease, as heard, resident, Conservation Commission member
- ▶ 1:00:28Abutter at 68 Townsend Harbor Road objected to dust, noise, septic risk and three years of earth removal. — Mark Resnick, as heard, abutter
- ▶ 1:07:04Abutter at 70 Townsend Harbor Road objected to scale of removal, truck traffic, and the original ten yard letter; said he would sell. — Clifton Smith, as heard, abutter
- ▶ 1:37:57Asked engineer whether abutters' septic systems were considered. — a speaker, citizen
- ▶ 3:18:25Finance Committee member said the forecast leaves out unplanned debt so the committee can see wiggle room. — Terry Burchfield, as heard, citizen and Finance Committee member
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- legal125 min · 53%
- planning and zoning101 min · 43%
- public comment101 min · 43%
- budget65 min · 28%
- budget fy2765 min · 28%
- staffing65 min · 28%
- policy24 min · 10%
- public safety24 min · 10%
- facilities19 min · 8%
- library15 min · 6%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:02Opening, member comments, announcementsinformational · 3:37 long · public comment
- ▶ 3:39Request to hunt with firearms on conservation landvoted: denied 3-2 · 23:32 long · policy, legal, public safety
- ▶ 27:11Class 2 auto dealer license hearing, 36 Summer Streetvoted: granted · 3:39 long · economic development, planning and zoning
- ▶ 30:50Earth removal permit hearing, 1325 Mass Avevoted: approved 3-2 with conditions · 1:37:37 long · planning and zoning, legal, public comment
- ▶ 2:08:27Appointments ratified and ZBA appointmentvoted · 4:12 long · personnel
- ▶ 2:12:39Town manager report: vacancies, old primary facilities funds, MassDOT meeting, upcoming meetingsinformational · 3:54 long · town departments, facilities, primary school
- ▶ 2:16:33Five-year financial forecast and school staffing planinformational; weekly agenda item agreed · 1:05:19 long · budget, budget fy27, staffing
- ▶ 3:21:52FY21 capital plan and TC Passios extended day building concernsinformational · 14:48 long · capital, facilities
- ▶ 3:36:40Colonial Power agreement and charter lettervoted · 4:11 long · contracts and unions, legal
- ▶ 3:40:51Warrants, action items, committee reports, upcoming meetings, adjournmentadjourned · 15:18 long · library, roads and dpw
What the captions could not carry
- Vote count on the charter letter motion was not stated.
- Several figures in the forecast presentation were garbled and the page 23 versus 29 reconciliation was unclear.
- Exact vote tally on the postponement motion; the outcome is inferred only from the next motion being made.
Reports this meeting suggests
Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.
- ▶ 2:16:33Five-year financial forecastWhat does the FY21-25 forecast assume, and how large are the deficits with the school staffing plan?
- ▶ 3:24:19Capital planning requestsWhat is in the FY21 capital plan and what was left out?
- ▶ 3:30:00Extended day spaceWhy were vouchers refused at TC Passios and what fixes would cost?already answered:
thread:extended-day-fee - ▶ 2:40:41School staffing planWhat does the school five-year staffing plan add each year?
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