What was said

Select Board, August 4, 2020

the recording · 3:11 long, about 24,331 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:51:59The dangerous dog hearing was continued to August 11 by roll call vote, all aye, because the complainant and a witness were absent.
  2. ▶ 2:12:31The board raised the FY21 town counsel monthly retainer by roll call vote; counsel cited inflation since 2017 and the town manager said the legal account can cover it.
  3. ▶ 24:55The board amended a flammable storage license to add a diesel tank at the Gulf station on Mass Ave, and approved a stop sign on Goodridge Street at Reservoir Road.
  4. ▶ 30:45The board ratified an interim police lieutenant, with one abstention, and appointed members to the personnel and agricultural commissions.
  5. ▶ 2:24:30The board adopted its FY21 goals and the town manager's goals, and approved the Central Mass Regional Stormwater Coalition agreement.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The higher town counsel retainer is a recurring legal cost paid from the town budget, mostly taxes, and the board was told existing funds cover it for FY21.
  • The diesel tank approval and the dog hearing touch neighborhood safety and licensing, and the dog hearing will be heard again with the complainant's testimony still to come.
  • State aid held at no less than the FY20 level as a baseline, which bears on how much of FY21 must be raised locally.

Watch next

  • August 11: the continued dangerous dog hearing, with written or live testimony sought from the complainant and a witness.
  • August 18: earth removal permit renewals, with board members sending written questions to the building commissioner beforehand.

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Present: Mr. Dwyer (chair); Ms. Adams (member); Mr. Moreno (Mourinho) (member); Mr. Jeffries (member); Madame Town Manager (town manager); Mr. Costa / Mike Kennefick (town counsel); Acting Chief Gamble (acting police chief); Mr. Proctor (land use director). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 24:55Amend the flammable storage license to add a 6,000 gallon diesel tank at the Gulf station, 451-453 Mass Ave — moved by Ms. Adams, as heardpassed
  2. ▶ 27:20Add a stop sign on Goodridge Street at Reservoir Road and remove the yield signpassed
  3. ▶ 30:45Ratify the town manager's appointment of the interim lieutenant, Jeffrey Thibodeaux — moved by Ms. Adams, as heardpassed (one abstention, others aye)
  4. ▶ 1:51:59Continue the dangerous dog hearing to August 11 at 7:10 — moved by Mr. Jeffries, as heardpassed (roll call, all aye)
  5. ▶ 2:00:32Appoint Johanna Bellotta to the personnel committee — moved by Mr. Mourinho, as heardpassed (roll call, aye votes heard)
  6. ▶ 2:03:39Appoint Stephanie Schofield as associate member of the agricultural commission — moved by Ms. Adams, as heardpassed unanimously
  7. ▶ 2:12:31Accept the amended town counsel retainer agreement with the increasepassed (roll call, ayes heard)
  8. ▶ 2:21:32Approve the intermunicipal agreement for the Central Mass Regional Stormwater Coalitionpassed (ayes heard)
  9. ▶ 2:23:01Accept the updated town manager goals for FY21passed (ayes heard)
  10. ▶ 2:24:30Adopt the FY21 Board of Selectmen goalspassed (ayes heard)

And 2 procedural: approve minutes of may 5 and may 12, 2020 (▶ 2:25:34); enter executive session to discuss collective bargaining strategy with the lunenburg education association, then adjourn (▶ 3:10:37).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 10 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 4 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsTown counsel effective hourly rates▶ 2:09:29

    recording Town counsel effective hourly rate: 140 an hour, 170, 180 and 225 dollars an hour

    town’s minutes “the hourly rate for 2018 was $142 per hour.”

    Ours gives 140 where the official gives $142 for 2018, and the official also lists $140 separately. Check the recording to see which year each rate belongs to.

  2. differsStormwater coalition intermunicipal agreement▶ 2:21:32

    recording Approve the intermunicipal agreement for the Central Mass Regional Stormwater Coalition — passed (ayes heard)

    town’s minutes “to authorize chairman alonzo to sign the ima on behalf of the board”

    Likely the same item, but ours records approving the agreement and the official records authorizing the chair to sign it. The official has no $1,000 or $4,000 figures. Check the vote wording and the amounts.

  3. differsDangerous dog hearing follow-up on witnesses▶ 1:56:24

    recording Town manager to work with the acting chief to contact the complainant and extra witness so they can give written or live testimony at the continued hearing on August 11.

    town’s minutes “mr. alonzo read the following to be entered into the record: incident report dated april 4, 2020”

    The official minutes record that the incident reports were entered into the record and note the complainant was absent, but no assignment to contact the complainant and witness. Check the recording.

  4. differsAttendees: board members and officials▶ 0:00

    recording Mr. Dwyer (chair); Ms. Adams; Mr. Moreno (Mourinho); Mr. Jeffries; Acting Chief Gamble; Mr. Proctor (land use director)

    town’s minutes “members present: tom alonzo, chairman; michael-kay veltreys, vice chairman; katey adams, clerk; todd dwyer, jim marino”

    The official chair is Tom Alonzo, not Dwyer. Moreno/Jeffries likely correspond to Marino/Veltreys, and Gamble to Gammel and Proctor to Burney. The roll is hard to reconcile, so check the video.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Ratify interim lieutenant appointment:Ratify the town manager's appointment of the interim lieutenant, Jeffrey Thibodeaux — passed (one abstention, others aye)→Jeffrey Thibodeau▶ 30:45
  • Personnel committee appointment:Appoint Johanna Bellotta to the personnel committee — passed (roll call, aye votes heard)→Joanna Bilotta - Simeone▶ 2:00:32
  • Town counsel retainer increase:Town counsel retainer FY21: 455 dollars a month, 450, seven percent, 10.95 an hour→$6,500/month to $6,955/month, $455/month▶ 2:04:41
  • Regional CDBG coronavirus grant award:Regional CDBG coronavirus grant: 264 500, hundred ninety six thousand one hundred dollars→$296,100▶ 2:48:21
In one record only: 4 from the recording, 2 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Stop sign on Goodridge Street at Reservoir Road, remove yield sign: Add a stop sign on Goodridge Street at Reservoir Road and remove the yield sign — passed ▶ 27:20
  • Recording only — Agricultural commission associate member appointment (Stephanie Schofield): Appoint Stephanie Schofield as associate member of the agricultural commission — passed unanimously ▶ 2:03:39
  • Recording only — Affordable housing percentage report: Land use director to report the current affordable housing percentage. ▶ 2:53:34
  • Recording only — Tax lien list circulation and Capital Planning seat: Tax lien and foreclosed property list to be circulated to the open space and conservation commissions; the town moderator to be asked about the Capital Planning seat. ▶ 3:08:11
  • Town’s minutes only — Fiorentino resignation from Personnel Committee: “mr. alonzo accepted his resignation on behalf of the board and asked that a thank you letter be sent.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Zoom meeting security question: “ms. adams asked about the security for zoom meetings as the school reopening meeting had been hacked.”

Compared 2026-11-03. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:04:41Town counsel retainer FY21

    Town counsel proposed a monthly retainer increase to adjust for inflation since 2017; the town manager said the legal expense account has enough funds.

    as heard:455 dollars a month450seven percent10.95 an hour

  2. ▶ 2:09:29Town counsel effective hourly rate

    Counsel described effective hourly rates in Lunenburg compared with typical municipal rates.

    as heard:140 an hour170180 and 225 dollars an hour

  3. ▶ 2:20:51Stormwater coalition intermunicipal agreement

    The coalition cut this year's cost, which returns to the higher level in the next two years.

    as heard:a thousand dollars4 000

  4. ▶ 2:43:57State aid FY21

    The town was told the state would fund unrestricted general government aid and Chapter 70 at no less than the FY20 level as a baseline.

  5. ▶ 2:45:38FY21 capital items

    The town manager gave status of capital projects, including squad 3 pump repair and portable radios, as part of larger costs.

    as heard:15 00065 000two thousand dollarsforty five thousand dollars

  6. ▶ 2:46:38Infrastructure bond bill

    A state bond bill includes money for fire turnout gear and a primary school fire alarm upgrade, awaiting the governor's signature.

    as heard:150 000100 thousand

  7. ▶ 2:48:21Regional CDBG coronavirus grant

    A regional application for microloans and food banks was awarded less than requested; Shirley will administer it.

    as heard:264 500hundred ninety six thousand one hundred dollars

  8. ▶ 2:25:55Warrants signed

    Payroll, payroll deduction and accounts payable warrants were read, along with the first quarter water commitment.

    as heard:six hundred thirty nine thousand two hundred twenty dollars and twenty two centsfour hundred forty seven thousand two hundred six dollars and sixty six centstwo hundred forty eight thousand seven hundred sixteen dollars and six cents7997.46

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:56:24Town manager to work with the acting chief to contact the complainant and extra witness so they can give written or live testimony at the continued hearing on August 11.
  • ▶ 2:40:26Town manager to bring the TC Passios design committee's charge and funding language to the next meeting for review.
  • ▶ 2:53:34Land use director to report the current affordable housing percentage.
  • ▶ 2:19:08Board members to send written questions to the building commissioner before the Aug 18 earth removal permit renewals.
  • ▶ 3:08:11Tax lien and foreclosed property list to be circulated to the open space and conservation commissions; the town moderator to be asked about the Capital Planning seat.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed mr. alonzo read the following to be entered into the record:

  • Incident report dated April 4, 2020; reference number 20Lun-313-OF

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Incident report, reference number 20Lun-670-OF, Call # 20-42065 (Officer Melnicki narrative)
  • Ms. Lemieux's memo to the Select Board on the Town Counsel retainer
  • Mead, Talerman and Costa amended retainer agreement
  • Land Use memorandum with recommendations for earth removal permits (Mr. Burney)
  • Acting Chief Gammel's letter recommending Det. Sgt. Thibodeau as Acting Lieutenant
  • Traffic Rules and Orders modification (Schedules IV and IV-B)
  • Infrastructure Bond Bill (House No. 4932)
  • 2015 Tappe Study
  • Complete copy of the current Town Charter (sent to Representative Sena's office)
  • Amended Town Manager goals and BOS FY21 goals
  • Diesel fuel license amendment application (451-453 Massachusetts Avenue)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 12:46public hearing noticeother· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 14:09flammable storage license amendment applicationapplication or permit· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Diesel fuel license amendment application (451-453 Massachusetts Avenue)”)
  • ▶ 48:12police incident reportsreport· in the minutes’ list (“Incident report dated April 4, 2020; reference number 20Lun-313-OF”)
  • ▶ 51:39witness letterletter or email· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:04:41town counsel retainer memorandum and amended agreementcontract or agreement· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Ms. Lemieux's memo to the Select Board on the Town Counsel retainer”)
  • ▶ 2:05:22effective hourly rate calculationspreadsheet· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:14:37earth removal permit recommendationsreport· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Land Use memorandum with recommendations for earth removal permits (Mr. Burney)”)
  • ▶ 2:20:30intermunicipal agreement, stormwater coalitioncontract or agreement· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:24:30FY21 board of selectmen goalsother· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Ms. Lemieux's memo to the Select Board on the Town Counsel retainer”)
  • ▶ 2:30:452015 studyreport· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“2015 Tappe Study”)
  • ▶ 2:46:38infrastructure bond billwarrant article· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Infrastructure Bond Bill (House No. 4932)”)
  • ▶ 2:25:34minutes of May 5 and May 12, 2020prior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 9:34Supported the town manager's succession planning goal and asked that the cemetery and parks commissions' custody of their properties also be considered. — Dave Pacios, 56 Whiting Street, as heard
  2. ▶ 18:21Asked how adding diesel at the Gulf station slipped through the approval process. — Mr. Pacios, as heard
  3. ▶ 3:05:25Asked that tax lien parcels go to the open space committee, gave an update on the stalled town charter bill, and asked how an at-large Capital Planning seat was filled without advertising. — Dave Pacios, 56 Whiting Street, as heard

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Opening, roll call, board comments on Zoom securityinformational · 6:00 long · technology
  2. ▶ 6:00Graduation and tribute to former police chiefinformational · 3:34 long
  3. ▶ 9:34Public comment on facilities, cemetery and parksinformational · 2:28 long · public comment, town departments
  4. ▶ 12:02Public hearing: diesel tank amendment to flammable storage licensevoted · 13:56 long · public safety, legal
  5. ▶ 25:58Traffic rule change and interim police lieutenantvoted · 6:13 long · public safety, personnel
  6. ▶ 32:11Dangerous dog hearingcontinued to August 11 · 1:24:57 long · legal, public safety
  7. ▶ 1:57:08Personnel committee and agricultural commission appointmentsvoted · 7:33 long · personnel
  8. ▶ 2:04:41FY21 town counsel retainervoted · 8:51 long · contracts and unions, legal
  9. ▶ 2:13:32Earth removal permit renewals discussioninformational · 6:37 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 2:20:09Stormwater coalition intermunicipal agreementvoted · 2:06 long · water sewer, fees
  11. ▶ 2:22:15FY21 town manager and board goalsvoted · 3:19 long · policy
  12. ▶ 2:25:34Minutes, warrants, action itemsvoted · 1:42 long
  13. ▶ 2:27:16Committee reports: council on aging, TC Passios design committeeinformational · 13:31 long · seniors, capital
  14. ▶ 2:40:47Town manager and COVID update, state aid, capital plan, vacanciesinformational · 24:18 long · state aid, capital, grants
  15. ▶ 3:05:05Public comment: tax liens, charter, committee seatinformational · 5:32 long · public comment
  16. ▶ 3:10:37Executive session on collective bargainingvoted · 1:04 long · executive session, contracts and unions

What the captions could not carry

  • Several roll-call votes are only partly captioned; the chair's own votes are mostly rendered as 'an eye from me'.
  • Some names are mangled, including the chair and the complainant, Mr. Hazel.
  • The dog hearing had dropped connections and garbled stretches.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 2:29:01TC Passios building costsWhat does the TC Passios engineering analysis say the building needs, and what could it cost?already answered: thread:tc-passios-site
  • ▶ 2:04:41Town counsel retainerWhat does the town pay its counsel and how has the retainer changed since 2017?
  • ▶ 2:44:17Capital planning requestsWhere do the FY21 capital items and bond bill money stand?

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