What was said
Select Board, October 6, 2020
the recording · 3:30 long, about 26,569 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/select-board/2020.json
The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 2:09:43The Select Board directed that a Bright Farms tax increment financing deal proceed on an eight-year term, kept revenue neutral if possible, with a ten-year version as an alternative.
- ▶ 1:12:08The board decided the right of first refusal at 250 Howard Street is not waived until a tri-party agreement, drafted by town counsel and the town manager, is in place.
- ▶ 19:16The board granted a wine and malt package store license to Lanni Orchards, 5-0 by roll call.
- ▶ 2:29:42The board told the town manager to proceed with selling a small town-owned piece at 671 West Street and to notify only the two abutters.
- ▶ 2:50:37The board approved a bond anticipation note renewal and signed the November 3, 2020 election warrant, both by roll call.
Why it matters — our reading
- A tax increment financing deal discounts a company's property taxes for a set number of years, so its term and revenue-neutral condition decide how much new tax revenue the town gives up or collects.
- The 250 Howard Street agreement and the 671 West Street sale both affect whether town-held land is protected as open space or passes into private hands, and the Howard Street question may come to residents as a warrant article.
Watch next
- The special town meeting warrant article review, which goes first on next week's Select Board agenda.
- The tri-party agreement on 250 Howard Street, which town counsel is to draft.
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Present: Ms. Adams (member, remote); Mr. Dwyer (member, remote); Mr. Mourinho (member, remote); Mr. Jeffries (member, remote); Chair (unnamed) (chair, remote); Ms. Lemieux (town manager, remote); Mr. Costa (town counsel, remote); Mr. Kibby (open space committee chair, remote); Mr. Pease (conservation commission chair, remote); Karen Menard (parks commission chair, remote); Dave Pacios (parks commission member, remote); Susannah Jewell (parks commission member, remote); Mr. O'Neill (presenter, Bright Farms, remote). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 19:16Grant wine and malt package store license to Lanni Orchards, 294 Chase Road — moved by Ms. Adams, as heardpassed 5-0 by roll call
- ▶ 28:05Appoint Chris Sullivan to the Parks Commission seat with term ending at the next annual election — moved by Mr. Pacios, as heardpassed unanimously by roll call
- ▶ 1:37:50Approve the new Embers Pizzeria amended liquor license applicationpassed 4-1 (Mr. Jeffries no)
- ▶ 2:50:37Approve the bond anticipation note renewal — moved by a member, as heardpassed by roll call; count not fully audible
- ▶ 2:54:34Sign the November 3, 2020 election warrantpassed by roll call
And 3 procedural: parks commission adjourns at 7:32 (▶ 30:52); approve august 11 and 18, 2020 minutes (▶ 2:52:06); enter executive session for collective bargaining (fire union) and town manager contract, then adjourn (▶ 3:29:03).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 7 agree, 7 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 8 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.
recording Appoint Chris Sullivan to the Parks Commission seat with term ending at the next annual election — passed unanimously by roll call
town’s minutes “to appoint chris sullivan to the parks commission until the next annual election”
Official minutes record 8-0, but the board has only five members; check the recording and the official tally.
recording Approve the new Embers Pizzeria amended liquor license application — passed 4-1 (Mr. Jeffries no)
town’s minutes “to reconsider and approve the amended transfer application for embers pizzeria”
Both give 4-1, but ours calls it a new amended liquor license application, while the official calls it a reconsideration of an amended transfer application. Check the motion wording and whether a reconsideration vote occurred.
recording Approve the bond anticipation note renewal — passed by roll call; count not fully audible
town’s minutes “three board members will need to come into the office tomorrow morning to sign the document.”
Official minutes record no vote on the BAN renewal, only that three members will sign the document. Check whether a vote was taken.
recording Direction to proceed with the Bright Farms TIF on an eight-year term, kept revenue neutral if possible, with a ten-year illustration as an alternative.
town’s minutes “mr. alonzo suggested ms. lemieux provide an eight and a ten year tif agreement.”
Ours says proceed with eight years and a ten-year illustration; official says provide both eight and ten-year agreements. Check whether a preferred term was chosen.
recording Town counsel and town manager to draft a tri-party agreement on 250 Howard Street with the sellers, buyers and open space committee; the right of first refusal is not waived until it is in place, and the warrant article stays.
town’s minutes “a straw poll was taken from the members on this method. all members supported it.”
Both describe counsel drafting an agreement, but the official calls it a donation in lieu of exercising the right and records a straw poll. Check the recording for the structure and whether the warrant article stays.
recording Town manager to proceed with selling the 671 West Street piece and notify only the two abutters.
town’s minutes “there will be more discussion about these properties at another meeting.”
Ours records a direction to proceed; the official records no decision and further discussion later. Check the recording.
recording Special town meeting warrant article review to go first on next week's agenda.
town’s minutes “ms. adams would like to put articles on a future agenda; such as the old primary school.”
Records differ: ours has the special town meeting warrant review first next week; official has an old Primary School item. They may be separate items; check.
recording Chair (unnamed) (chair)
town’s minutes “members present: tom alonzo, chairman; michael-ray jeffreys, vice chairman; katey”
The official minutes name the chair as Tom Alonzo; ours leaves the chair unnamed. This is a minor naming gap, not a conflict.
7 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
- FY20 free cash and new growth:FY20 free cash and new growth: 1.6 and 1.7 million, eight thousand seven hundred and thirty two dollars, a hundred and thirty five thousand three hundred thirty two→$308,732 and $135,332▶ 3:12:01
- Bright Farms TIF projection figures:Bright Farms tax increment financing: 10 million dollar investment, 18.12, 181 200, 996 thousand six hundred, 815 400→$181,200; $996,600; $815,400▶ 1:39:50
- Attendee name: Mr. Jeffries:Mr. Jeffries (member)→Michael-Ray Jeffreys
- Attendee name: Mr. Mourinho:Mr. Mourinho (member)→Jim Marino
- Attendee name: Mr. Kibby:Mr. Kibby (open space committee chair)→Brandon Kibbe
- Attendee name: Dave Pacios:Dave Pacios (parks commission member)→Dave Passios
- Attendee name: Karen Menard:Karen Menard (parks commission chair)→Karin Menard
In one record only: 1 from the recording, 2 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Goals on a future agenda: Goals to be put on a future agenda, to be scheduled with the town manager. ▶ 2:55:39
- Town’s minutes only — Additional attendees and speakers: “cesira newcomb, james xarras, margot xarras, sean o'neill”
- Town’s minutes only — FEMA reimbursement request to MEMA: “coordinators to submit a fema reimbursement request to mema by october 15th.”
Compared 2026-11-03. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 1:39:50Bright Farms tax increment financing
Town manager outlined a 10-year TIF with a discount stepping down over time; the town keeps the base tax.
as heard:10 million dollar investment18.12181 200996 thousand six hundred815 400
- ▶ 1:55:00TIF term length
A member asked to shorten the term to eight years, and the applicant agreed if kept revenue neutral.
as heard:eight years52 000
- ▶ 2:49:11Bond anticipation note renewal
Renewal covers the Saliba property and the ladder truck at a low interest rate.
as heard:225 600384 thousand 396 dollarssix hundred nine thousand nine hundred ninety six dollarspoint five nine percent
- ▶ 2:52:28Warrants signed
Chair reported accounts payable and payroll warrants signed the previous week.
as heard:970 902.40842 978 dollars and 23 cents
- ▶ 3:12:01FY20 free cash and new growth
Projected free cash was reported in a range, and certified new growth exceeded the annual town meeting estimate.
as heard:1.6 and 1.7 millioneight thousand seven hundred and thirty two dollarsa hundred and thirty five thousand three hundred thirty two
- ▶ 2:17:20Sale of town land at 671 West Street
Board discussed selling a small abutter piece, with price based on assessed value.
as heard:100 by 150 feet
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 1:12:08Town counsel and town manager to draft a tri-party agreement on 250 Howard Street with the sellers, buyers and open space committee; the right of first refusal is not waived until it is in place, and the warrant article stays.
- ▶ 2:09:43Direction to proceed with the Bright Farms TIF on an eight-year term, kept revenue neutral if possible, with a ten-year illustration as an alternative.
- ▶ 2:29:42Town manager to proceed with selling the 671 West Street piece and notify only the two abutters.
- ▶ 2:46:46Normal 6-to-8 trick-or-treat hours with a strong recommendation to follow health guidelines; no vote taken, one member abstained.
- ▶ 3:09:36Special town meeting warrant article review to go first on next week's agenda.
- ▶ 2:55:39Goals to be put on a future agenda, to be scheduled with the town manager.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The minutes print a list, headed from ms. lemieux's memo dated july 14th.
:
- Ms. Lemieux's memo dated July 14th (TIF)
Named in the running text, not in a list:
- Bond Anticipation Note Renewal dated 10/15/2020, due 10/14/2021
- Public hearing notice, Lunenburg Licensing Authority (Lanni Orchards Inc.)
- Lanni Orchards Inc. wine & malt license application
- Amended transfer application, Embers Pizzeria (84 Lakefront St.)
- Notice of First Right of Refusal, 250 Howard Street (Chapter 61)
- Warrant articles for Special Town Meeting (two, on 671 West Street and town parcels)
- Accounts Payable Warrant #15 21, dated 9/29/2020
- Payroll Deduction Warrant #16 21, dated 9/30/2020
- Bright Farms TIF projection table
- Detailed report to the Division of Local Services (CARES Act)
- Governor's Executive Order #51
- Governor's Executive Order #52 (revised gatherings order)
Heard in the recording
- ▶ 22:02talent bank formapplication or permit, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 1:31:12letter from the abccletter or email, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 1:40:34TIF proposalcontract or agreement, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 2:48:51bond anticipation renewal synopsismemo, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Bond Anticipation Note Renewal dated 10/15/2020, due 10/14/2021”)
- ▶ 2:53:31November 3 election warrantwarrant article, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 3:08:56special town meeting warrant draftswarrant article, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Warrant articles for Special Town Meeting (two, on 671 West Street and town parcels)”)
In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Ms. Lemieux's memo dated July 14th (TIF).
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Public comment
- ▶ 6:48Criticized the town's fast permitting for a company's project compared with residents' experience, and the board's earlier help to school transportation companies. — Ron Delicia, 181 Reservoir Road, as heard, resident
- ▶ 3:23:17Asked for a pro forma and side-by-side comparison for the Bright Farms TIF, and raised how equipment would be taxed; also suggested contacting an attorney about the West Street land. — Dave Rogers, 82 Highland Street, as heard, resident
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- planning and zoning79 min · 38%
- legal69 min · 33%
- warrant article58 min · 28%
- economic development41 min · 20%
- policy34 min · 16%
- tax rate32 min · 15%
- public safety14 min · 7%
- personnel14 min · 7%
- facilities13 min · 6%
- town departments12 min · 6%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:08Opening, roll call, board comments, clerk announcementinformational · 6:32 long
- ▶ 6:48Public comment on permitting and town servicesinformational · 2:42 long · public comment, planning and zoning
- ▶ 10:38Lanni Orchards wine and malt license hearingvoted · 9:39 long · economic development, policy
- ▶ 20:17Joint meeting: Parks Commission appointmentvoted · 10:53 long · recreation, personnel
- ▶ 31:12250 Howard Street Chapter 61 right of first refusalreferred to town counsel for agreement · 41:17 long · legal, planning and zoning, warrant article
- ▶ 1:12:29Town-owned parcels for conservation transfer and warrant article processdeferred · 14:34 long · warrant article, planning and zoning, legal
- ▶ 1:28:44Embers Pizzeria amended liquor licensevoted · 10:06 long · policy
- ▶ 1:38:51Bright Farms tax increment financingdirection given · 31:33 long · economic development, tax rate
- ▶ 2:10:45Resignations from boards and committeesinformational · 2:45 long · personnel
- ▶ 2:13:30Town-owned parcels and 671 West Street sale to abuttersdecided to notify abutters · 20:40 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 2:34:12Halloween trick-or-treat guidanceconsensus, no vote · 14:08 long · public safety, policy
- ▶ 2:48:30Bond note renewal, minutes, warrants, election warrantvoted · 6:50 long · debt, elections
- ▶ 2:55:39Committee reports: TC Passios design committee and open meeting lawinformational · 12:54 long · facilities, legal
- ▶ 3:08:33Special town meeting warrant article review schedulingdeferred to next week · 2:06 long · town meeting, warrant article
- ▶ 3:10:39Town manager report and COVID updatesinformational · 11:51 long · town departments, free cash
- ▶ 3:22:32Public comment and board commentsinformational · 5:51 long · public comment
- ▶ 3:28:23Executive session motion and adjournmentvoted · 2:04 long · executive session, contracts and unions
What the captions could not carry
- Roll call counts for the minutes approval and executive session motion are not clearly captioned.
- Exact figures in the TIF illustration are as rendered by the captions and may be unreliable.
Reports this meeting suggests
Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.
- ▶ 1:39:50Bright Farms TIFWhat would the town gain and forgo under the proposed Bright Farms tax increment financing agreement?
- ▶ 2:56:00TC Passios space needsHow are the town and school space needs prioritized for the TC Passios building?already answered:
thread:tc-passios-site
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