What was said

Select Board, January 12, 2021

the recording · 1:55 long, about 14,356 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:30:34The Select Board told the Architectural Preservation District and Historical Commissions it intends to seek demolition of the old primary school for a green space.
  2. ▶ 1:30:34The board plans a Town Meeting article for green space design money first, with a demolition request to follow; no vote was taken on the building.
  3. ▶ 1:45:16The chair said the board will consider a lease-only RFP for the old primary school at a future meeting; the preservation commission members are to send the town manager what they want in it.
  4. ▶ 13:10The board approved a common victualler license for Dippin Donuts, 4-0 on roll call as heard.
  5. ▶ 18:44The board ratified the town manager's two DPW appointments, an intermittent heavy equipment operator and a heavy equipment operator.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The old primary school's future, demolition for a green space or a lease to a new user, will likely come to residents as a Town Meeting article, with costs paid by the town budget, mostly taxes.
  • The board said green space costs far less than renovating the building, but no current estimate was presented, so residents have no up-to-date cost comparison.

Watch next

  • A future Select Board agenda item on a lease-only RFP for the old primary school.
  • The Feb 2 or Feb 9 meeting, where a review of the APDC bylaw as it applies to town property is to be tried.

facilitieslegalpersonnelplanning and zoningpublic commenttown departmentstown meetingwarrant article

Present: mr dwyer (member); mr mourinho (member); ms adams (member); mr jeffries (member); chair (mr alonso) (chair); madame town manager (town manager, remote); mr oliva (DPW director); richard mcgrath (APDC chair); colin dwyer (APDC vice chair); brian cochran (APDC member); anthony nicastro (APDC member, remote); bill laxo (Historical Commission president); jennifer sanderson (Historical Commission member); kevin busam (Historical Commission member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 13:10Approve common victualler license for Conrad Cafe Inc d/b/a Dippin Donuts, 455 Mass Avepassed 4-0 on roll call as heard (all four members heard voting aye)
  2. ▶ 18:44Ratify town manager's DPW appointments of intermittent heavy equipment operator and heavy equipment operatorpassed (all four members heard voting aye)

And 5 procedural: approve minutes of december 1 and december 8, 2020 (▶ 19:28); apdc and historical commission each called to order with a quorum (▶ 38:52); apdc motion to adjourn (▶ 1:46:20); historical commission motion to adjourn (▶ 1:46:47); select board adjourn (▶ 1:54:53).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 8 agree, 6 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 4 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsConrad Cafe / Dippin Donuts common victualler license vote▶ 13:10

    recording Approve common victualler license for Conrad Cafe Inc d/b/a Dippin Donuts, 455 Mass Ave — passed 4-0 on roll call as heard

    town’s minutes —

    Our minutes record a roll-call vote on this license; the official minutes record no such vote, so check the video and the official minutes for whether it was taken or omitted.

  2. differsRatify DPW appointments vote▶ 18:44

    recording Ratify town manager's DPW appointments of intermittent heavy equipment operator and heavy equipment operator — passed (all four members heard voting aye)

    town’s minutes “motion: k. adams 2nd: j. marino to ratify the town manager appointments of dpw intermittent heavy equipment operator to mike roberts”

    Both record passage, but ours has four members voting and no names, while the official gives a motion by Adams, seconded by Marino (a fifth member), and names the appointees. Check the vote count and who was present.

  3. differsBoard members present▶ 13:10

    recording mr dwyer, mr mourinho, ms adams, mr jeffries, chair (mr alonso)

    town’s minutes “members present: tom alonzo, chairman; michael-ray jetfreys, vice chairman; katey adams, clerk; todd dwyer, jim marino”

    Mourinho is probably a mishearing of Marino (caption error). The vote count of four against five members present needs checking.

  4. differsAPDC chair identification and vice chair name▶ 0:00

    recording richard mcgrath (APDC chair); colin dwyer (APDC vice chair)

    town’s minutes “apdc members present were brian corcoran, cullen dwyer, vice chair and anthony nicastro.”

    Colin vs Cullen Dwyer is likely a misheard first name. Check whether McGrath chairs the APDC or the Historical Commission, since the official minutes attach him to the Historical Commission.

6 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Chair name:chair (mr alonso)→Tom Alonzo
  • Vice chairman name:mr jeffries (member)→Michael-Ray Jetfreys
  • Board member Marino:mr mourinho (member)→Jim Marino
  • APDC member Cochran:brian cochran (APDC member)→Brian Corcoran
  • Historical Commission member Laxo:bill laxo (Historical Commission president)→Bill Lakso
  • Historical Commission member Busam:kevin busam (Historical Commission member)→Kevin Boussom
In one record only: 3 from the recording, 6 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Old primary school demolition estimate $500,000: Old primary school demolition estimate: 500 000 ▶ 1:21:16
  • Recording only — RFP for old primary school, lease only: Chair said the board will put on a future agenda an RFP for the old primary school as lease only, not sale; APDC members to contact the town manager with what they want in it. ▶ 1:45:16
  • Recording only — Jeffries request to review APDC bylaw: Mr. Jeffries' request to review the APDC bylaw as it applies to town property to be tried for the Feb 2 or Feb 9 meeting. ▶ 1:50:01
  • Town’s minutes only — State business relief grant program: “this new business relief program will offer grants up to $75,000, but not more than”
  • Town’s minutes only — Small Bridge Program application: “recommended that we submit a small bridge program application, even though the program hasn't received the funding yet.”
  • Town’s minutes only — CARES Act funding for Zoom technology: “ms. lemieux stated she would discuss with him further on specifics.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Meeting with legislative delegation: “through town manager, is arranging a date for meeting with our newly elected legislative delegation.”
  • Town’s minutes only — 925 Mass Avenue funding options: “discuss future funding options through massdevelopment for 925 mass avenue.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Other attendees: Dave Rodgers, Chuck Venezia, Ms. St. Pierre: “chuck venezia, chairman of the historical society was also present.”

Compared 2026-11-03. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 20:12Warrants

    Chair reported signing an accounts payable, payroll deduction and payroll warrant.

    as heard:507 536.75forty one thousand two hundred eighty six dollars and thirty six centseight hundred twenty five thousand one hundred sixty five dollars and ninety five cents

  2. ▶ 24:01DPW fuel tank project

    Town manager estimated some unexpected capital would remain after the project is completed.

    as heard:80 000

  3. ▶ 59:29Old primary school green space vs renovation

    Chair said green space cost is far lower than renovating the building.

    as heard:low six figuresseven figures

  4. ▶ 1:21:16Old primary school demolition estimate

    A member recalled an older demolition estimate, now dated, far below renovation cost.

    as heard:500 000

  5. ▶ 1:50:22Technology for board members

    A member asked whether CARES money could fund devices for board members; the town manager said it can be looked into.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:45:16Chair said the board will put on a future agenda an RFP for the old primary school as lease only, not sale; APDC members to contact the town manager with what they want in it.
  • ▶ 1:30:34Board intends to put a Town Meeting article for design money for a green space, using Monty Tech help, with demolition request to follow.
  • ▶ 1:50:01Mr. Jeffries' request to review the APDC bylaw as it applies to town property to be tried for the Feb 2 or Feb 9 meeting.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed mr. alonzo reported he signed the following warrants last week:

  • Accounts Payable Warrant #31 21, dated 1/5/21
  • Payroll Deduction Warrant #32 21, dated 1/6/21
  • Payroll Warrant #14P21, dated 1/7/21

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • APD by-law

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 0:01revised agendaagenda· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 19:28minutes of December 1st and 8th 2020prior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 9:00public notice for community outreach meetingother· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 50:41RFP for old primary schoolother· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:21:16Vertex studies of the buildingreport· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:22:18town meeting surveyreport· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Accounts Payable Warrant #31 21, dated 1/5/21; Payroll Deduction Warrant #32 21, dated 1/6/21; Payroll Warrant #14P21, dated 1/7/21.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 8:39No hands raised at opening public comment.
  2. ▶ 1:53:28Urged ending analysis paralysis, said developers avoid the building because the land is not included, and backed tearing the building down. — dave rogers 82 highland street, as heard, resident

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:01Opening, remote meeting notice, roll call, pledgeinformational · 3:49 long
  2. ▶ 3:51Board comments: marijuana outreach meeting, thanks to outgoing senator, delegation visitinformational · 4:49 long
  3. ▶ 8:41Announcement of Greenleaf Botanicals community outreach meeting Feb 4informational · 2:09 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 10:51Common victualler license, Dippin Donutsvoted · 3:39 long · town departments
  5. ▶ 14:31Ratify two DPW appointmentsvoted · 4:54 long · personnel, hiring, roads and dpw
  6. ▶ 19:28Minutes and warrantsvoted · 2:28 long
  7. ▶ 21:58Town manager report: vacancies, Flat Hill culvert, fuel tanks, 925 Mass Ave, COVID updateinformational · 8:25 long · roads and dpw, capital
  8. ▶ 30:24Joint workshop set-up and technical audio issuesinformational · 8:26 long
  9. ▶ 38:51Old primary school: board proposes demolition and green space; APDC and Historical Commission respondno resolution; lease-only RFP to be considered · 1:07:29 long · facilities, warrant article, planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 1:47:32Closing: upcoming meetings, APDC bylaw review request, technology for board members, public commentinformational · 7:20 long · public comment, policy

What the captions could not carry

  • Anthony Nicastro's audio never worked; he spoke only via chat.
  • Bill Laxo's opening roll call and some audio were unclear.
  • Individual roll-call votes were partly dropped by captions.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 59:29Old primary school demolitionWhat would demolition and green space cost compared with renovating the old primary school?

These are ours, and they are not the record

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What changed

Version 15 — updated September 20, 2026