What was said
Select Board, November 2, 2021
the recording · 2:54 long, about 23,274 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/select-board/2021.json
The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 2:06:55Most Select Board members said they favored passing over both TC Passios articles at the special town meeting, but took no formal vote.
- ▶ 58:29New cost estimates arrived the afternoon of the meeting, raising the renovation estimate and pricing a new build far higher, with material costs cited.
- ▶ 2:14:48The board voted down the sale of parcel 7 off Pratt Street, with three members opposed, and said it will not re-bid the parcel.
- ▶ 2:42:10The board awarded the 30 School Street landscape architecture proposal 4-1 and put six articles on the consent calendar unanimously.
- ▶ 47:42The marijuana host community agreement review was deferred until after the November 16 special town meeting.
Why it matters — our reading
- The TC Passios articles decide whether the town hall and community center project goes forward, and the debt that follows would be paid mostly through property taxes.
- Residents at the special town meeting will be asked to vote on these articles after the committees heard the new cost numbers only hours before, so the figures and the board's positions are worth reading first.
Watch next
- The design committee's recommendation on the TC Passios articles, due the Wednesday after this meeting.
- The November 16 special town meeting, where the board will state its positions and residents vote on the articles.
budgetcapitalcurriculumdebtexecutive sessionfacilitiesfree cashgrantspersonnelpublic commenttown departmentstown meetingwarrant article
Present: Mr. Moreno / Mourinho (member (resigning)); Mr. Dwyer (member); Mr. Franco (member); Mr. Jeffries (member); Mr. Alonso (chair); Heather Lemieux (town manager); Lisa LeBlanc (presenter); Valerio Romano (presenter). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 55:00Appoint Wendy Bertrand to the personnel committee, term expiring June 30, 2022passed unanimously
- ▶ 56:23Ratify the town manager's appointment of a board and committee clerkpassed unanimously
- ▶ 2:14:48Approve sale of parcel 7 off Pratt Streetfailed, three opposed
- ▶ 2:42:10Award landscape architecture proposal for 30 School Street to Ray Dunetz firmpassed 4-1
- ▶ 2:44:56Add articles 5, 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13 to the consent calendarpassed unanimously
And 1 procedural: enter executive session on fire union collective bargaining and adjourn afterward (▶ 2:53:08).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 16 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.
recording Board agreed to bring up a written nepotism policy for committee appointments and to consider reaching out to the affected person.
town’s minutes “mr. alonzo agreed there should be a policy.”
Ours says the board agreed to bring up a policy and consider outreach; official says only that the chair agreed a policy should exist and none was adopted. Check the recording near this point.
recording Board will not re-bid parcel 7 off Pratt Street again regardless of the vote outcome.
town’s minutes —
Our minutes record this as a decision but the official minutes do not; check the recording around the parcel 7 discussion.
4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
- New build cost estimate:39 million 600 637 000→$39,000,637▶ 58:29
- Attendee: Jim Marino:Mr. Moreno / Mourinho (member (resigning))→Jim Marino
- Attendee: Jeffreys:Mr. Jeffries (member)→Michael-Ray Jeffreys
- Attendee: Alonzo (chair):Mr. Alonso (chair)→Tom Alonzo
In one record only: 2 from the recording, 5 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Cost per square foot ($334, $720, $530): 334 dollars a square foot; 720 square dollars per square foot, 530 dollars per square foot ▶ 1:46:03
- Recording only — Design fee percentages and cost of delay: Design fees: eight percent, 20 percent, 40; Cost of delay: 932 thousand dollars, two million dollars, 4.4 percent ▶ 1:30:06
- Town’s minutes only — Free cash history: “he presented a history of past available free cash ranging from $484,117 in fy15 to $2,666,962”
- Town’s minutes only — COA tea party fundraiser: “the recent tea party event raised $3,000.”
- Town’s minutes only — Closed captioning follow-up: “she will check into it and report back.”
- Town’s minutes only — Notify Mr. Dunetz of award: “ms. lemieux will notify mr. dunetz of the awarding of the contract.”
- Town’s minutes only — Other attendees: “tcp building design members: dave passios, grey roy”
Compared 2026-10-17. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 57:49TC Passios renovation article
Article for renovating the TC Passios into a town hall and community center was before the town at the earlier figure.
as heard:23.5 million dollars
- ▶ 58:09New building design development article
Alternative article would fund design development of a new building from free cash.
as heard:350 000
- ▶ 58:29Updated cost estimates
Estimates received that afternoon raised renovation about thirty percent and priced a new build far higher, citing material costs.
as heard:28 million 96739 million 600 637 00022.2 or 22.3
- ▶ 1:04:43Spring town meeting study appropriation
The town earlier allocated money to study a new build cost.
as heard:54 000334 dollars a square foot
- ▶ 1:16:26Design fees
Design and engineering is billed as a percentage of project cost, with about forty percent spent before the decision point.
as heard:eight percent20 percent40
- ▶ 1:30:06Cost of delay
Delaying a decision adds cost each year, based on a construction cost index.
as heard:932 thousand dollarstwo million dollars4.4 percent
- ▶ 1:41:34Tax impact
The finance committee chair estimated average household cost increases over 30 years and said the debt policy limit would be exceeded.
as heard:277 dollars341 dollars46711
- ▶ 1:46:03Cost per square foot
A member computed per-square-foot costs for the two options.
as heard:720 square dollars per square foot530 dollars per square foot39 million dollars
- ▶ 2:08:57Parcel 7 off Pratt Street sale
A bid below assessed value was discussed; the board declined to sell.
as heard:8500twelve thousand five hundred215 dollars a year
- ▶ 2:16:56Fire grants
Fire chief received two grants for emergency planning and firefighter safety equipment.
as heard:350015 000
- ▶ 2:17:39Electricity rates
Unitil winter rate increase was approved, and the aggregation rate was cited as an alternative.
as heard:15.6 cents per kilowatt hour11.2 cents
- ▶ 2:19:28TC Passios operating costs
Town manager noted there is no appropriation for the building, which runs on tenant rent, and added users risk a deficit to be addressed in the FY23 budget.
- ▶ 2:38:4230 School Street landscape design bids
Price proposals from three firms were compared.
as heard:nineteen thousand five hundredtwenty seven thousandtwenty one thousand three hundred
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 2:06:55Board will not vote on the TC Passios articles tonight; positions will be stated officially at town meeting, and the design committee will make its recommendation next Wednesday.
- ▶ 2:37:20Board agreed to bring up a written nepotism policy for committee appointments and to consider reaching out to the affected person.
- ▶ 2:12:39Board will not re-bid parcel 7 off Pratt Street again regardless of the vote outcome.
- ▶ 47:42Host community agreement review deferred until after the November 16 special town meeting, aiming for execution before the holidays.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.
Named in the running text, not in a list:
- Resignation letter of Jim Marino, addressed to the Town Clerk (undated)
- Standards for History and Social Science Practice, Pre-K-12
- Session Law Acts of 2018-Act 296
- Special Town Meeting Article 8 (design funding for a new Town Hall and Community Center)
- Tappe Study (2016), assessment of primary Town facilities
- Vertex Report (2018), assessment of TC Passios Building
- DiGiorgio Associates preliminary design and rough cost estimate
- 2019 survey at Special Town Meeting on uses for 30 School Street
- Facility Framework: The Path Ahead (presented slide)
- Division of Local Services (DLS), MA Department of Revenue, free cash guidance
- DPU-approved Unitil revised submittal (winter rate increase)
Heard in the recording
- ▶ 57:06the presentation for the TCP design committeepresentation, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 58:29updated cost estimatereport· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“DiGiorgio Associates preliminary design and rough cost estimate”)
- ▶ 1:13:21the warrantwarrant article, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Special Town Meeting Article 8 (design funding for a new Town Hall and Community Center)”)
- ▶ 1:20:56the vertex reportreport· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Vertex Report (2018), assessment of TC Passios Building”)
- ▶ 44:58host community agreement draftcontract or agreement, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Special Town Meeting Article 8 (design funding for a new Town Hall and Community Center)”)
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Public comment
- ▶ 1:36:05TC Passios committee member said the committee had not seen or discussed the new cost numbers before tonight. — dave pacio's 56 whiting street, as heard, member of the TC Passios committee
- ▶ 1:38:27Finance Committee chair announced a Thursday public hearing, then as a resident argued there is too little time to evaluate the cost increases and that article 8 departs from free cash and debt policy. — peter beardmore 282 pleasant street, as heard, Finance Committee chair
- ▶ 2:04:12Clarified the renovation article in the warrant carries no dollar figure, and said the committee was not allowed to make its recommendation before the board's discussion. — pacio's 56 whiting street, as heard, member of the TC Passios committee
- ▶ 2:46:17Thanked the departing member and urged the board to fill the vacant seat promptly. — dave pacios 56 whiting street, as heard
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- capital86 min · 51%
- warrant article76 min · 44%
- free cash72 min · 42%
- curriculum25 min · 15%
- town departments19 min · 11%
- grants13 min · 8%
- public safety13 min · 8%
- legal9 min · 5%
- economic development9 min · 5%
- library9 min · 5%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 2:41Opening, announcements and resignation of a memberinformational · 14:59 long
- ▶ 18:01Civics curriculum and town government partnershipinformational; board asked to consider liaison · 24:56 long · curriculum
- ▶ 43:17Marijuana host community agreementdeferred until after special town meeting · 9:15 long · legal, economic development
- ▶ 52:32Personnel committee appointment and clerk ratificationvoted · 4:13 long · personnel, hiring
- ▶ 56:45TC Passios renovation and new build articles and cost estimatesno vote; majority favor passing over · 1:12:12 long · capital, warrant article, free cash
- ▶ 2:08:57Sale of parcel 7 off Pratt Streetfailed · 6:11 long · town departments
- ▶ 2:15:08Town manager reportinformational · 13:16 long · town departments, grants, public safety
- ▶ 2:28:24Committee reports and nepotism policyinformational · 8:56 long · capital, library
- ▶ 2:37:2030 School Street landscape design awardvoted 4-1 · 5:11 long · capital
- ▶ 2:42:31Special town meeting warrant and consent calendarvoted · 3:25 long · town meeting, warrant article
- ▶ 2:45:56Public comment, closing remarks and executive sessionentered executive session on fire union bargaining · 7:55 long · public comment, executive session
What the captions could not carry
- Final tally of the roll call vote to enter executive session beyond four ayes heard.
- Exact vote count on the parcel sale; three opposed was stated.
- Who made several of the motions.
Reports this meeting suggests
Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.
- ▶ 57:49Town building conceptsWhat would renovating the TC Passios versus building new cost, and what would it add to the average tax bill?already answered:
thread:tc-passios-site - ▶ 1:42:58Excluded debt limitHow close would a debt exclusion come to the eleven percent policy limit on excluded debt service?
- ▶ 2:38:4230 School Street optionsWhat are the landscape design bids and plan for the old primary school site?
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