What was said
Select Board, May 16, 2023
the recording · 2:23 long, about 19,688 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/select-board/2023.json
The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 2:04:06The Select Board voted to deny the request of the residents at 243 Summer Street as presented.
- ▶ 29:15The Municipal Building Design Committee presented a hybrid plan for Ritter, Town Hall and the old TCP building, with preliminary comparative costs it said are not estimates.
- ▶ 1:08:58The board heard the consultant's report on waterfront land valuation, and a resident and members criticized the assessors' abatement process.
- ▶ 1:39:32The board approved the fourth quarter water commitment and a Boys and Girls Club toll booth fundraiser.
- ▶ 2:06:09The town manager's composite evaluation was deferred to next week.
Why it matters — our reading
- The building plan could lead to a design funding request at a fall special town meeting, which residents would be asked to vote on.
- The abatement discussion touches how property assessments are corrected and how long residents wait for relief on their tax bills.
Watch next
- The next Select Board meeting, where the town manager's composite evaluation and the school committee's sidewalk letter are due for discussion.
- A possible design funding article at a fall special town meeting, if the Municipal Building Design Committee pursues the roadmap.
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Present: Mr Jeffries (chair); Mr Franco (member); Mr Alonso (member); Miss Chard (member); Mr Blatt (member); Town Manager (town manager); Mr Roy (presenter (Municipal Building Design Committee)); Mr Black (presenter (committee vice chair)); Mr Kramer (presenter (assessment consultant, remote)); Mr Scullenbrini (presenter (architectural preservation district member)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 16:23Approve the Lunenburg Boys and Girls Club toll booth fundraiser on Saturday June 3rd, 9 A.M. to 1 P.M. at Town Center. — moved by Miss Chard, as heardpassed
- ▶ 1:39:32Commit the fourth quarter water commitment.passed
- ▶ 2:04:06Deny the request of the residents at 243 Summer Street as presented.passed
And 1 procedural: adjourn the meeting. (▶ 2:22:40).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 8 agree, 3 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 4 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.
recording Deny the request of the residents at 243 Summer Street as presented. — passed
town’s minutes “they did not want to set precedent by allowing the paving in the easement or licensing to an individual homeowner.”
Ours records a passed vote to deny. The official minutes record a consensus with no recorded vote, so check the recording near t=7446 for whether a motion and roll call occurred.
recording Public comment on community space cost: 17 million dollars, 25 000 square feet, 6500 square feet
town’s minutes “the club had requested between 6,000-10,000 square feet and at $545/sq.ft., you are looking at millions of dollars”
Ours gives 6,500 sq ft and 25,000 sq ft with $17M, while the official gives the Club's request as 6,000-10,000 sq ft and no $17M figure. Check the recording to see who said each.
recording Miss Chard (member)
town’s minutes “ms. sroka thanked the people that have supported her over the last nine years that she has been in public office”
Ours lists Miss Chard, while the official lists Ms. Sroka, who is the only female member named. It is likely a misheard name, but confirm on the recording.
recording Mr Blatt (member)
town’s minutes “dave blatt, 411 goodrich street, added one of the things that the committee looked at was to provide multiple”
Ours calls Blatt a board member. The official lists Dave Blatt with an address, which reads as a resident or committee member, so check his role.
3 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
In one record only: 9 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Combined figure 'five point four and change': five point four and change ▶ 29:15
- Recording only — Earlier TCP renovation and rebuild costs: Earlier TCP renovation and rebuild costs: 23 million and 30 million, 23.3, 29.5 ▶ 45:31
- Recording only — Design funding at fall special town meeting: Design funding at a fall special town meeting: 250 000 ▶ 47:31
- Recording only — Rural transportation grant ride fares: Rural transportation grant (ride program): three dollars per ride, four dollars a ride, five dollars a ride, fifty thousand dollars ▶ 1:42:42
- Recording only — Green Communities grant funding: Green Communities grant funding: 500k, half a million dollars ▶ 1:07:50
- Recording only — Town manager evaluation process decision: Town manager composite evaluation to be discussed next week; individual evaluations available in the town manager's office, and members must not reference their own evaluations in discussion. ▶ 2:06:09
- Recording only — Earth-removal RFP idea: Chair will explore a conversation with large local earth-removal businesses in early June about an RFP for site work in exchange for removal rights. ▶ 2:09:46
- Recording only — Sidewalk letter scanned to Google Drive: The school committee letter will be scanned and added to the Google Drive for discussion next week. ▶ 14:02
- Recording only — Presenters Mr Black and Mr Scullenbrini: Mr Black (presenter (committee vice chair)); Mr Scullenbrini (presenter (architectural preservation district member)) ▶ 0:00
- Town’s minutes only — Waterfront land valuation (MFS report) 135% and 17%: “this was done, which created an increase in land values in some cases of around 135%.”
- Town’s minutes only — Athletic Facility feasibility study funding: “for the athletic facility feasibility side study”
- Town’s minutes only — Other attendees named in official minutes: “andrew woods, 94/ flat hill koad, and madelyn dame, 612 mass. ave., presented for the tollbooth request.”
Compared 2026-10-13. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 13:42Sidewalk project estimate (school committee letter)
The school committee's letter attached a map of a proposed sidewalk project with an estimate and suggested setting aside a contingency for unstable material costs.
as heard:101 500a hundred thousand dollars
- ▶ 29:15Municipal building preliminary comparative costs
The committee used a per-square-foot figure to compare Ritter renovation and addition, Town Hall renovation, and TCP renovation, stressing these are not estimates.
as heard:545 square foot3.27 million2.18 millionfive point four and change3.53 million dollar13.63 million
- ▶ 45:31Earlier TCP renovation and rebuild costs
Members recalled prior TCP renovation and rebuild numbers including soft costs.
as heard:23 million and 30 million23.329.5
- ▶ 47:31Design funding at a fall special town meeting
A member suggested the committee seek roughly a quarter million for design work at a special town meeting in the fall.
as heard:250 000
- ▶ 1:38:48FY2023 fourth quarter water commitment
The board committed the quarterly water bills.
as heard:ten thousand sixty six dollarsten thousand sixty six dollars and eleven cents
- ▶ 1:42:42Rural transportation grant (ride program)
A regional transit authority rural transportation grant will fund subsidized rides, with fares by distance; a further grant opportunity for the town was mentioned.
as heard:three dollars per ridefour dollars a ridefive dollars a ridefifty thousand dollars
- ▶ 1:07:50Green Communities grant funding
The green committee said the town has received a large sum of free state money to date and wants projects to fund.
as heard:500khalf a million dollars
- ▶ 2:21:08Public comment on community space cost
A resident combined square footage figures into a total cost for community space.
as heard:17 million dollars25 000 square feet6500 square feet
- ▶ 2:07Mortgage escrow increases from tax bills
A member said some residents' monthly escrow payments jumped due to higher tax bills.
as heard:500 per month
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 47:31Board members indicated the committee's next step should be a roadmap, and that funding for design would be the board's prerogative to pursue.
- ▶ 14:02The school committee letter will be scanned and added to the Google Drive for discussion next week.
- ▶ 2:06:09Town manager composite evaluation to be discussed next week; individual evaluations available in the town manager's office, and members must not reference their own evaluations in discussion.
- ▶ 2:09:46Chair will explore a conversation with large local earth-removal businesses in early June about an RFP for site work in exchange for removal rights.
Public comment
- ▶ 1:05A departing official thanked supporters of nine years in office and urged residents to vote in Saturday's town election. — a speaker, member of the board (outgoing)
- ▶ 11:54Asked whether the public could ask questions after the building design committee presentation. — Ronda Lucia, 181 Reservoir Road, as heard, resident
- ▶ 55:49Asked about the school versus town split of space in the Ritter building and suggested making the meeting room into offices instead of building an addition; called it a lot of money for community space. — Rhonda Listia, 181 Reservoir Road, as heard, resident
- ▶ 1:33:32Thanked the consultant and criticized the assessment errors and the length of the abatement ordeal for residents. — Mr McDonald, as heard, resident
- ▶ 2:21:08Argued the combined square footage and cost for community space is too high; suggested splitting the school and town offices and noted Pepperell converted a meeting room into offices. — Ms lizio, 181 Roseburg Road, as heard, resident
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- capital54 min · 38%
- facilities52 min · 37%
- turkey hill52 min · 37%
- public comment44 min · 31%
- tax rate41 min · 29%
- roads and dpw13 min · 9%
- policy13 min · 9%
- personnel10 min · 7%
- grants10 min · 7%
- superintendent report8 min · 6%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:44Public comment and board remarks on the board of assessors' abatement processinformational · 11:36 long · public comment, tax rate
- ▶ 12:39Announcements and school committee communication on sidewalk projectinformational · 1:43 long · capital, grants
- ▶ 14:22Boys and Girls Club toll booth fundraiservoted · 2:23 long · recreation
- ▶ 16:45Municipal Building Design Committee hybrid plan presentation and discussioninformational · 51:50 long · capital, facilities, turkey hill
- ▶ 1:08:58Tax investigation update from consultant on waterfront valuationinformational · 29:02 long · tax rate, public comment
- ▶ 1:38:26Fourth quarter water commitmentvoted · 1:44 long · water sewer
- ▶ 1:40:13Town manager's report: vacancies, grants, projects, action itemsinformational · 8:07 long · grants, personnel, superintendent report
- ▶ 1:48:21Committee reportsinformational · 3:29 long · seniors, economic development
- ▶ 1:51:52243 Summer Street paving requestvoted to deny · 13:16 long · roads and dpw
- ▶ 2:05:08Town manager performance evaluation compositedeferred to next week · 2:12 long · personnel
- ▶ 2:07:20Review of FY23 select board goals and board self-reflectioninformational · 12:48 long · policy
- ▶ 2:20:08Closing announcements, public comment, adjournmentadjourned · 3:02 long · public comment
What the captions could not carry
- Much of the consultant's presentation (about 4242-4660) is garbled by audio and captions; figures and details are uncertain.
- Consultant's answer on working with the town (about 4925-5006) is largely unintelligible.
- Vote counts were not given; outcomes are taken from the chair's announcements (aye/no, motion passes).
- Public comment from Mr McDonald (5633-5741) is partly garbled.
- The closing time was stated inconsistently (9 20, 9 22, 7 23).
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