What was said
Select Board, May 8, 2024
the recording · 2:22 long, about 19,910 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes.json
The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 2:16:41The Select Board voted 2-1, with two abstentions, to recommend against the water district's PFAS treatment plan on the May 16 ballot.
- ▶ 2:08:46A motion to take no action and make no recommendation either way had failed first.
- ▶ 2:21:12The board approved a letter supporting the governor's amendment to the means-tested senior citizen property tax exemption.
- ▶ 1:41:11Most of the meeting was a water district presentation on the plan's cost, rates and loan, followed by a presentation from a citizens group opposing it.
- ▶ 2:22:16The remaining agenda items and board comments were skipped when the building lights shut off.
Why it matters — our reading
- Residents will be asked to vote on the water district's PFAS project on the May 16 ballot, and the Select Board's recommendation is a no.
- Board members and residents questioned whether the state revolving fund financing is actually approved and noted that operating costs were not presented, so the full effect on water rates is not settled in the record.
Watch next
- The May 16 ballot vote on the water district's PFAS treatment project.
- The chair's draft investigation report, which he said he would send to members and ask the town manager to post for next week.
debteconomic developmentgrantslegalpublic commentseniorstown meetingwarrant articlewater sewer
Present: Chair (unnamed) (chair); Mr Alonzo (member); Selectman M (member); Mr Franco (member); Miss Lemieux (town manager); Mark bur (presenter (chairman, board of water commissioners)); Matt Woodward (presenter (water commissioner)); L sraco (Tighe & Bond) (presenter (consultant)); Fran MCM (presenter (water superintendent)); Sarah camer (presenter (board of assessors)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 2:08:46Take no action: make no recommendation either way on the water district's PFAS plan — moved by Mr Franco, as heardfailed
- ▶ 2:16:41Recommend disapproval (a no vote) of the water district project on the May 16 ballotpassed 2-1 with two abstentions
- ▶ 2:21:12Approve letter of support for the governor's amendment to the means-tested senior citizen property tax exemption billpassed
And 1 procedural: adjourn the meeting (▶ 2:22:37).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 6 agree, 7 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.
recording water district project on the May 16 ballot
town’s minutes “at the may 18 meeting on the project as presented”
Ours says May 16 ballot; the official says May 18 meeting. This may be a mishearing or a different event (ballot vs. meeting); check the recording and the warrant for the actual date.
recording Board concluded it had voted not to endorse the water district's plan as presented.
town’s minutes “member alonzo moved that the board of selectmen recommend a disapproval, or a "no" vote, on this issue at the may 18 meeting on the project as presented. member emkey seconded.”
The two records agree on the vote itself, but ours frames it as 'not endorse' where the official records a motion to recommend a 'no' vote; check the recording at this point for how the chair characterised it.
7 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
- Accounts Payable warrant 1:98635→$986,358.10▶ 2:21:34
- Accounts Payable warrant 2:$61,69 40 cents→$61,139.40▶ 2:21:34
- Accounts Payable warrant 3:and10 / $1,448→$11,414.87▶ 2:21:34
- Payroll warrant:$1,200,000→$1,200,113.12▶ 2:21:34
- Board member Selectman M / Emkey:Selectman M (member)→Renee Emkey / Caesar Nuzzolo
- Attendee: Mr Alonzo:Mr Alonzo (member)→Tom Alonzo
- Attendee: Sarah Cammer, Board of Assessors:Sarah camer (presenter (board of assessors))→Sarah Cammer
In one record only: 7 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Water district presenters (Mark bur, Matt Woodward, L sraco of Tighe & Bond, Fran MCM): Mark bur (presenter (chairman, board of water commissioners)); Matt Woodward (presenter (water commissioner)); L sraco (Tighe & Bond) (presenter (consultant)); Fran MCM (presenter (water superintendent))
- Recording only — PFAS financing and rate figures: State revolving fund loan for PFAS treatment: 17.3 million, $15 million; per-customer cost $13.79, 3.3% principal forgiveness, $103; water rate increase and loan term figures; Article amount 32.2; O&M 100 to $300,000 a year ▶ 58:19
- Recording only — Citizens group cost comparison: $45 million, half, $27 million, $32 million ▶ 1:43:33
- Recording only — Cemetery article and funds: Cemetery article and funds: 87,4 4561, 235,000, $887,000, $10,000, $3,200, $3,800 ▶ 13:10
- Recording only — Chair says investigation report may not be reached: Chair said the investigation report may not be reached; he will send the draft to members and ask the town manager to post it for next week. ▶ 2:02
- Recording only — Room rearranged so audience could hear: Water commissioners were asked to face the audience and the table was rearranged so the room could hear. ▶ 19:50
- Recording only — Meeting ended early when building lights shut off: Remaining agenda items and board comments were skipped because the building lights shut off. ▶ 2:22:16
- Town’s minutes only — Residents and citizens group who spoke: “(bill emkey, joan pease, andy starvaski, john fortune, barbara turkington), who gave a powerpoint presentation.”
- Town’s minutes only — DEP zero percent funding question: “zero percent funding may be available from the dep (department of environmental protection); member renee emkey asked about the funding”
- Town’s minutes only — Questions on ongoing maintenance and cost to the town: “clerk caesar nuzzolo asked about ongoing maintenance and costs for maintenance.”
Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 58:19State revolving fund loan for PFAS treatment
The district said it received a state letter finding the added Lancaster Ave scope eligible for SRF financing; board members questioned whether funding is actually approved.
as heard:17.3 million$15 million
- ▶ 1:03:11Per-customer cost of project
The district gave a per-quarter cost per customer assuming principal forgiveness.
as heard:$13.793.3% principal forgiveness$103
- ▶ 1:04:14Projected water rate increase
The district showed the minimum charge and usage rate rising sharply, compared against sewer rates.
as heard:$75$120$720 per 100 cubic feet$12 per 100 cubic feet$126 for 840 cubic feet$15.85 for 100 cubic feet
- ▶ 1:17:17Loan term and interest
Board member questioned whether the loan is 20 or 30 years and how compounding affects interest; district said 30 years is available on request.
as heard:14 9 million2030
- ▶ 1:20:40Article amount
District said the warrant article appropriates the full amount so the loan process is not delayed.
as heard:32.2
- ▶ 1:31:04Operation and maintenance
The consultant estimated annual media replacement costs with heavy caveats; board members noted operating costs were not presented.
as heard:100 to $300,000 a year
- ▶ 1:43:33Citizens group cost comparison
The citizens group argued the full plan costs far more than treating only Keating and Lancaster.
as heard:$45 millionhalf$27 million$32 million
- ▶ 13:10Cemetery article and funds
A resident cited cemetery fund balances and the cost of forming a cemetery corporation.
as heard:87,4 4561235,000$887,000$10,000$3,200$3,800
- ▶ 2:21:34Warrants
The chair read accounts payable and payroll warrants.
as heard:98635 and10$61,69 40 cents$1,448$1,200,000
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 2:02Chair said the investigation report may not be reached; he will send the draft to members and ask the town manager to post it for next week.
- ▶ 19:50Water commissioners were asked to face the audience and the table was rearranged so the room could hear.
- ▶ 2:20:09Board concluded it had voted not to endorse the water district's plan as presented.
- ▶ 2:22:16Remaining agenda items and board comments were skipped because the building lights shut off.
Public comment
- ▶ 2:48Board of Health lost a member and needs write-in candidates for the open ballot seat to keep a quorum. — Perry juwel, as heard, Board of Health member
- ▶ 7:46Criticised cemetery commission and proposed a cemetery corporation; asked to be on next week's agenda. — John Bowen, as heard, resident
- ▶ 17:44Resident asked that the room's audio be improved so people can hear presenters and the board.
- ▶ 19:29Resident said the water commissioners could not be heard with their backs to the audience.
- ▶ 1:32:10Asked whether the 32.2 million vote is what must be done for PFAS and whether SRF funding is approved. — Bill, as heard, resident
- ▶ 1:36:00Asked about an emergency plan if the Keating well failed and how much the project would cost the town's buildings. — John Fortune, as heard, resident
- ▶ 1:41:11Presented opposition to the water district plan; urged the board to support a no vote. — Andrew staras, as heard, resident, Lunenburg Citizens for Affordable Clean Water
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- water sewer118 min · 83%
- debt77 min · 54%
- public comment63 min · 44%
- capital49 min · 35%
- warrant article21 min · 15%
- town meeting21 min · 15%
- facilities5 min · 4%
- town departments4 min · 3%
- planning and zoning4 min · 3%
- seniors1 min · 1%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:41Opening, pledge, open meeting notice, housekeepinginformational · 2:07 long
- ▶ 2:48Public comment: Board of Health vacancy; cemetery commission criticisminformational · 10:05 long · public comment
- ▶ 12:53Board of Assessors update on abatements and subcommitteeinformational · 3:47 long · town departments, planning and zoning
- ▶ 16:40Room audio complaints and seating rearrangementdecision to rearrange · 5:24 long · public comment, facilities
- ▶ 22:04Water district PFAS presentation: treatment, redundancy, costs, rates, SRFinformational · 49:17 long · water sewer, debt, capital
- ▶ 1:11:21Board and public questions on PFAS plan, test data, redundancy, loan termsinformational · 27:29 long · water sewer, debt, public comment
- ▶ 1:38:50Lunenburg Citizens for Affordable Clean Water presentationinformational · 20:10 long · water sewer, public comment
- ▶ 1:59:00Board discussion and votes on endorsing the water district planvoted: no-action motion failed; disapproval recommended · 21:09 long · water sewer, warrant article, town meeting
- ▶ 2:20:09Letter of support for senior tax exemption amendmentvoted · 1:25 long · seniors, legal
- ▶ 2:21:34Warrants and adjournmentwarrants read; adjourned · 1:03 long · transfers
What the captions could not carry
- The exact roll of members present was never called; names are inferred from how members were addressed.
- Vote counts: the no-action motion was declared failed without a count; the disapproval vote tally was stated as two to one with two abstentions amid confusion.
- Warrant amounts were garbled in the captions.
- The mover of the disapproval motion was not identified.
- Cemetery fund figures in one public comment were garbled.
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