What was said

Sewer Commission, June 27, 2017

the recording · 2:18 long, about 9,291 words spoken · captions carried this meeting poorly

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 2:01:59The Commission moved to hire a part-time employee starting 6/29, but the minutes record the vote outcome as not audible.
  2. ▶ 51:47It reviewed its operations and maintenance contract, including major-repair rules, spare parts and aging pump station generators.
  3. ▶ 11:50It asked the DPW director for the status and timing of a report on a system problem, with no deadline set.
  4. ▶ 1:19:46It agreed to renew the contract by signing one document per year, with an order of precedence among documents.
  5. ▶ 1:44:08A resident proposed a private sewer extension on Route 13; counsel is to be consulted on the privilege fee.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The contract sets who pays for and responds to major sewer repairs, and aging pump station generators bear on how reliable service is for sewer users.
  • The privilege fee for the Route 13 extension, and the part-time hire, affect what connecting households pay and what the Commission spends on staff.

Watch next

  • Selectmen are to ratify the part-time hire on July 11.
  • The first quarterly meeting with the contractor is still to be scheduled.

contracts and unionsfeeshiringlegalpersonnelpublic commenttown departmentswater sewer

Present: Jack (DPW director); Barb (business manager); Chris (member); Deb (member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 2:01:59Approve application and hiring of a part-time employee effective 6/29, hourly rate after 10-day posting, to be ratified by Selectmen July 11. — moved by Bobby, as heardnot audible

And 4 procedural: approve minutes of 12/31/16. (▶ 2:16:24); approve minutes of 2/8/17. (▶ 2:16:48); approve minutes of 12/13/16. (▶ 2:18:18); adjourn. (▶ 2:18:18).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 4 agree, 1 caption error resolved by the official reading, 4 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsPay rate amendment to hiring motion

    recording Part-time hire hourly rate: grade is 6, 1570

    town’s minutes “to amend the motion to include pay rate of $16.26/hour discussion: none vote - unanimous”

    Our minutes have no amendment vote and give the rate as 'grade 6, 1570', while the official minutes give $16.26/hour. Check the recording to see whether 1570 is a different figure or a misheard version of 16.26.

  2. differsUpland Ave 50% privilege fee amount

    recording Betterment/privilege fee for extension: three thousand two thousand dollars, 50%

    town’s minutes “there was a question on which betterment would be used to assess the 50%”

    Ours has a garbled dollar figure; the official minutes print none and give only the 50%. Check the recording for any dollar amount.

  3. differsQuarterly meeting with contractor/Town Manager

    recording First quarterly meeting with the contractor to be scheduled.

    town’s minutes “the meeting will be postponed until the meeting with the town manager, selectmen representative and dpw director has occurred”

    Ours says the first quarterly meeting is to be scheduled with the contractor; the official minutes postpone it until after a meeting with the Town Manager, Selectmen representative and DPW Director. Check the recording to see which meeting this was.

  4. differsAttendees

    recording Jack (DPW director); Barb (business manager); Chris (member); Deb (member)

    town’s minutes “attendees: carl luck (chair), joe anderson, joan pease, troy daniels, barb lefebvre (business manager); absent: john reynolds”

    Barb matches. Ours lists Jack as present, but the official minutes say Jack Rodriquenz was absent. Ours lists members Chris and Deb, who are not Commission members in the official minutes, where Deb Trumbull is a guest. Check the sign-in and the recording.

1 caption error the town’s minutes resolve
  • Town counsel (Koppelman) invoice:Town counsel bill: one thousand and three dollars, five and half hours→$1003
In one record only: 1 from the recording, 10 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Major repair threshold in operations contract: Major repair threshold in operations contract: well over a thousand box
  • Town’s minutes only — Vote to assess privilege fee of $11,551.47 for 120 West Street: “to assess a privilege fee of $11,551.47 for 120 west street discussion: none second: joe a. vote: unanimous”
  • Town’s minutes only — Q4 EOY commitment of $904.10 signed: “the q4 eoy commitment is $904.10 and was signed by the commission.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Fitchburg invoice of $13,341.04: “two invoices were reviewed: fitchburg $13,341.04 and koppelman $1003.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Spare parts inventory plan: “al p. will meet with jack r. and a plan on what needs to be in stock will be developed.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Election of officers delayed to first August meeting: “the election of commission officials will be delayed until the first meeting in august.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Facebook page decision held off: “bob ebersole came forward and stated that social media policies are currently being worked on by the selectmen and to hold off on the decision.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Minute Clerk hours cannot be increased: “decided that since it was posted as such it cannot be increased.”
  • Town’s minutes only — 380 Electric Ave liaison and Leominster cost clarification: “barb l. will get clarification on leominster's estimated cost and will gather information on ail the pump stations for future consideration.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Upland Ave extension consistent with CWMP: “the commission agreed that it appears straightforward and consistent with the cwmp.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Certified letters on grease trap permits: “barb will send out certified letters to those without submittal as of 6/30.”

Compared 2026-11-06. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 51:47Major repair threshold in operations contract

    A threshold above which repairs count as major and require a call to the DPW director was stated.

    as heard:well over a thousand box

  2. ▶ 2:02:47Part-time hire hourly rate

    The pay grade and starting hourly rate for the part-time position were stated.

    as heard:grade is 61570

  3. ▶ 2:13:13Town counsel bill

    A town counsel charge for a meeting was read out.

    as heard:one thousand and three dollarsfive and half hours

  4. ▶ 1:37:54Betterment/privilege fee for extension

    Discussion of the privilege fee for connecting to an existing extension and betterment amounts.

    as heard:three thousand two thousand dollars50%

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 11:50Ask the DPW director for the status and timing of the report on a problem found in a system and whether remediation has begun, without setting a deadline.
  • ▶ 1:19:46Contract renewal to be handled by signing one document per year with an order of precedence rather than restating other documents.
  • ▶ 1:44:08Counsel to be consulted on the privilege fee question for the extension.
  • ▶ 2:11:41First quarterly meeting with the contractor to be scheduled.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed two invoices were reviewed:

  • Invoices from Fitchburg ($13,341.04) and Koppelman ($1003)
  • Minutes of 12/30/16 (corrected to 12/13/16), 5/30/17 and 2/28/17

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Email from Jack Rodriquenz dated 6/27 (regarding Small Water Systems)
  • Sketch for Upland Ave sewer extension
  • Annual Permit status (grease trap), on Google Drive
  • Letter to those who do not submit grease trap permits by deadline
  • Small Water Systems contract
  • Comprehensive Wastewater Management Plan (CWMP)
  • Q4 EOY commitment
  • Flow Assessment contract for FY18
  • Social Media Policies (being worked on by the Selectmen)
  • Permit applications to connect: 17 Cross Road and 324 Electric Ave
  • Application of Emily Lehto for Minute Clerk

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 23:29upgrades planned list / document given outreport, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 59:37the contractcontract or agreement, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Small Water Systems contract”)
  • ▶ 1:14:44IFB and response documentsother· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:14:55prior minutesprior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Invoices from Fitchburg ($13,341.04) and Koppelman ($1003); Minutes of 12/30/16 (corrected to 12/13/16), 5/30/17 and 2/28/17.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 1:27:19Resident/applicant described a proposed private sewer extension to 77 on Route 13, where test holes showed ground too shallow for a septic system, and asked permission to pursue it.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Call to order and notice to food service establishments about permitsinformational · 1:33 long · water sewer
  2. ▶ 2:42Member statement supporting DPW directorinformational · 2:48 long · personnel, town departments
  3. ▶ 6:29Status of a reported system problem and report from DPW directorreferred to DPW director · 6:41 long · water sewer
  4. ▶ 13:19Review of operations contract: planning, spare parts, generators, reporting, major repairsinformational · 1:00:01 long · contracts and unions, water sewer, capital
  5. ▶ 1:14:44Contract documents and order of precedence for renewaldirection to use single signed document · 12:35 long · contracts and unions, legal
  6. ▶ 1:27:19Private sewer extension on Route 13 and privilege feereferred to counsel · 17:11 long · water sewer, planning and zoning, fees
  7. ▶ 1:46:10Certified letters on permit applicationsinformational · 4:30 long · water sewer
  8. ▶ 1:53:04Facebook and social media for the Commissionno resolution · 5:18 long · policy
  9. ▶ 1:59:24Part-time hiremotion made, outcome not audible · 8:34 long · hiring, personnel
  10. ▶ 2:12:50Counsel bills, minutes, adjournmentvoted · 5:48 long · legal

What the captions could not carry

  • Votes on the hiring motion and minutes (counts not captioned)
  • Name of contractor and which system problem was reported
  • Much of the captions are garbled, especially 4400-5200 and 6600-6800

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 13:19Sewer pump contractWhat does the sewer operations contract cover and what does it cost?already answered: thread:sewer-pump-procurement
  • ▶ 1:33:18Sewer extension bettermentWhat privilege fee or betterment applies to a private sewer extension?

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