What was said

Sewer Commission, May 29, 2018

the recording · 3:32 long, about 26,280 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 39:11The Sewer Commission took up town counsel's draft response to an Open Meeting Law complaint; the minutes record the vote on approving it as not audible.
  2. ▶ 2:44:30The commission awarded the manhole remediation contract after a bid in which the engineer's estimate was higher than the low bid.
  3. ▶ 3:11:35The commission added a task to its DEP I&I plan to verify that remediation already done in areas three and six worked.
  4. ▶ 3:20:02Town counsel is to be asked to train the commission on the Open Meeting Law, together with a communication workshop, targeted for the 26th pending counsel's availability.
  5. ▶ 2:36:01Badger/Stiles and Neptune/Ty Sales presented irrigation meter options, and a carwash owner asked about a sewer easement for splitting his property; the easement stays on the agenda.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Irrigation meter choices and the I&I remediation plan affect how sewer use is measured and billed, and where sewer-system repair money is spent, so they can reach residents' sewer bills.
  • The Open Meeting Law training and workshop bear on how openly the commission deliberates, and the not-audible votes on the complaint response and billing commitment leave those outcomes unclear in the record.

Watch next

  • The 12th meeting agenda: irrigation meter policy, meter selection, the grease law notification policy, and the I&I item with consultant questions.
  • The training and communications workshop, aimed for the 26th at 6:30 pending counsel's availability.

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Present: Adam Costa (presenter (town counsel)); Carl (member (later vice chair)); John / Joan (member (later clerk)); Ryan Stauber (member (new)); Barb (business manager); Scott Fitzgerald (presenter (Stiles Company, Badger meters)); Tom Garrity (presenter (Ty Sales, Neptune)); Jack (town official / DPW (sewer operations)); Jim (member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 39:11Approve the draft Open Meeting Law response letter prepared by town counsel.not audible
  2. ▶ 2:44:30Award the manhole remediation contract at thirteen thousand seven hundred dollars.passed
  3. ▶ 3:11:35Insert a new task between tasks two and three to verify the effectiveness of I&I remediation already done in areas three and six.passed
  4. ▶ 3:25:34Approve the FY18 commitment for sewer billing.not audible

And 5 procedural: nominate and elect the chair for the coming year. (▶ 2:24:36); vice chair election: joan/john nominated against carl; carl declared vice chair with three votes. (▶ 2:28:25); elect john clerk. (▶ 2:28:48); approve minutes of the 5/8/18 meeting. (▶ 3:25:11); adjourn. (▶ 3:31:58).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 5 agree, 1 caption error resolved by the official reading, 4 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsVote on OML response letter▶ 39:11

    recording Approve the draft Open Meeting Law response letter prepared by town counsel. — not audible

    town’s minutes “motion: john r. second: ryan s. to approve the draft response letter as written. vote: aye-- john, ryan, carl abstain-joan”

    Ours records no audible outcome; official records passed 3-0-1 with Joan abstaining. Check the recording for the vote.

  2. differsManhole/I&I remediation contract award▶ 2:44:30

    recording Award the manhole remediation contract at thirteen thousand seven hundred dollars. — passed

    town’s minutes “received the low bid of $13,700 from 2 companies”

    Ours records a passed award vote; official says the Commission did not vote to award and records no award vote. Check the recording and the official record.

  3. differsFY18 sewer billing commitment▶ 3:25:34

    recording Approve the FY18 commitment for sewer billing. — not audible

    town’s minutes “q4-fy18 commitment for sewer billing $207,182.23 - commission signed.”

    Ours records a vote with no audible outcome; official records the commitment as signed with an amount of $207,182.23 and no vote. Check the recording and the amount.

  4. differsVice chair vote▶ 0:00

    recording —

    town’s minutes “vote: 3 votes for carl l., 2 votes for joan p.”

    Official records a contested 3-2 vote for vice chair that is absent from our votes. Check the recording.

1 caption error the town’s minutes resolve
  • Manhole remediation bid amount:Manhole remediation bid: eighteen thousand and change, 13,700, forty eight dollars→$13,700▶ 2:37:05
In one record only: 4 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Next agenda items: irrigation meter policy, meter selection, grease law notification: Next agenda (the 12th) to include irrigation meter policy, meter selection, and the grease law notification policy. ▶ 3:29:29
  • Recording only — Sewer jetting funds: Sewer jetting funds: twelve thousand ▶ 2:49:41
  • Recording only — Badger and Neptune meter figures: Badger cellular meter quote: 89 cent, seventeen thousand $100, 265, nine hundred and sixty one dollars a year ▶ 1:08:06
  • Recording only — I&I tasks cost figures: I&I tasks cost: $60,000, fifty thousand dollars, two hundred thousand dollars ▶ 2:58:42
  • Town’s minutes only — Election of officers: “motion: john r. second: carl l. to nominate joe a. as chair. vote: unanimous”
  • Town’s minutes only — Clerk nomination: “motion: joan p. second: joe a. to nominate john r. as clerk vote: unanimous”
  • Town’s minutes only — Grease trap renewal letters and Munis quote: “barb will send out the renewal letters this week.”

Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:37:05Manhole remediation bid

    Engineer's estimate was higher than the low bid of three solicited; two companies bid the same per-foot price.

    as heard:eighteen thousand and change13,700forty eight dollars

  2. ▶ 2:49:41Sewer jetting funds

    Unencumbered money remains beyond the encumbrance for parts and task one; plan to jet regularly.

    as heard:twelve thousand

  3. ▶ 1:08:06Badger cellular meter quote

    Per-unit cellular fee, a software upfront charge and meter prices were explained; confusing line items were corrected.

    as heard:89 centseventeen thousand $100265nine hundred and sixty one dollars a year

  4. ▶ 1:57:01Neptune software and implementation

    Software has a one-time charge with optional yearly maintenance, plus a one-time implementation fee.

    as heard:$700a thousand dollars$765

  5. ▶ 2:58:42I&I tasks cost

    Members said the DEP task list needs rough costs and timing; the 2011 metering follow-up was spread over two years.

    as heard:$60,000fifty thousand dollarstwo hundred thousand dollars

  6. ▶ 3:23:56Grease trap permit fees

    Permit holders who were late during the year pay a higher renewal fee.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 35:25Town counsel to come to a commission meeting for Open Meeting Law training, together with the communication process workshop.
  • ▶ 3:15:50Business manager and chair to email Weston & Sampson questions so he is prepared for the 12th; I&I item stays on the agenda.
  • ▶ 3:20:02Aim for the 26th at 6:30 for the training and communications workshop, pending counsel's availability.
  • ▶ 3:29:29Next agenda (the 12th) to include irrigation meter policy, meter selection, and the grease law notification policy.
  • ▶ 2:36:01Carwash easement request kept on the agenda; members to research bylaws and consult counsel.
  • ▶ 2:48:18Next consultant report to confirm that the previously noted item was completed.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed handouts::

  • Response to the OML complaint prepared by Adam Costa
  • Weston Sampson draft of DEP response
  • Stiles Co. - Irrigation meter information
  • Ti Sales - Irrigation meter information

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Sewer Service Map
  • Sewer easement bylaw
  • Q4-FY18 Commitment for Sewer Billing

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 3:32draft Open Meeting Law responseletter or email, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:48Open meeting law complaintletter or email, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 49:52Badger information packets and quotationscontract or agreement, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:29:01Neptune presentationpresentation, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:54:29consultant letter and task table to DEPletter or email, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 3:25:11minutes of 5/8/18prior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Response to the OML complaint prepared by Adam Costa; Weston Sampson draft of DEP response; Stiles Co. - Irrigation meter information; Ti Sales - Irrigation meter information.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 2:29:08A carwash owner asked whether the commission would allow a sewer easement across a new lot so he could split his property into three lots.
  2. ▶ 2:23:13Public comment was invited at the start of the remaining business; nothing substantive from the floor was captured.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:57Open Meeting Law complaint response with town counselvoted · 43:13 long · legal, policy
  2. ▶ 44:34Irrigation meter presentation: Badger/Stilesinformational · 42:07 long · water sewer, fees
  3. ▶ 1:28:39Irrigation meter presentation: Neptune/Ty Salesinformational · 53:52 long · water sewer, fees
  4. ▶ 2:23:13Election of officersvoted · 5:55 long · elections
  5. ▶ 2:29:08Carwash sewer easement requestreferred · 7:15 long · water sewer, planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 2:36:44Manhole remediation bid and consultant report follow-upvoted · 17:16 long · water sewer, contracts and unions
  7. ▶ 2:53:59DEP I&I task list and prioritiesvoted · 23:15 long · water sewer, capital
  8. ▶ 3:17:14Communications workshop schedulingdate targeted · 4:52 long · policy
  9. ▶ 3:22:06Grease trap permit renewalsinformational · 3:05 long · fees, water sewer
  10. ▶ 3:25:11Minutes, billing commitment, MUNIS quote, future agenda, adjournmentvoted · 7:11 long · water sewer

What the captions could not carry

  • Counts for most votes were not captured.
  • Who was elected chair and the exact nomination votes are unclear.
  • Pricing line numbers for meter quotes were garbled.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 2:57:59Sewer infiltration costsWhat has I&I remediation cost and what has it saved, and what would the remaining task list cost?already answered: thread:sewer-pump-procurement
  • ▶ 1:08:06Irrigation meter replacementWhat would replacing the irrigation meters cost under each vendor and who pays?

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