What was said

Sewer Commission, July 31, 2018

the recording · 0:49 long, about 6,032 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 16:07The Sewer Commission voted to grant grease trap waivers at the middle-high school, primary school and Turkey Hill, cutting cleanings from three a year to two.
  2. ▶ 16:07The external tank at the middle-high school moves to once a year; a contingency attached to that was later dropped.
  3. ▶ 36:38A motion to apply the daily non-compliance fee retroactively from July 2018 was made, but the outcome is not audible in the recording.
  4. ▶ 24:55Karl is to bring two or three engineering firms to the next meeting to discuss the scope of the system evaluation.
  5. ▶ 28:29Counsel is to advise on a sub-metering policy before the commission decides how to approach the park owner.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Fewer grease trap cleanings lower what the schools pay for maintenance, but members raised a possible plumbing design flaw, so less frequent cleaning carries a risk of blockages in the sewer system.
  • The engineering evaluation, the sub-metering policy and the legal fee arrangement bear on how sewer costs are measured and shared among users, which feeds into sewer rates.

Watch next

  • Next meeting: engineering firms for the evaluation scope, and John Fitch Highway expense information on the agenda.
  • August 28 meeting: a flow assessment consultant is to be invited.

feeshigh schoollegalpolicyprimary schooltown departmentsturkey hillwater sewer

Present: Ryan Stover (member); Karl (member); John Reynolds (member); John Londe (presenter); Barb (member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 16:07Grant grease trap waivers as requested: internal traps twice a year, external at middle-high school once a year (contingency later dropped). — moved by a member, as heardpassed
  2. ▶ 36:38Apply the $25-a-day non-compliance fee retroactively from July 2018 for the grease trap violation.not audible

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of 7/10/18. (▶ 37:46); adjourn the meeting. (▶ 48:50).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 7 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsRetroactive $25/day non-compliance fee vote▶ 36:38

    recording Apply the $25-a-day non-compliance fee retroactively from July 2018 for the grease trap violation. — not audible

    town’s minutes “to go back to 7/1/18 to assess $25/day fee for non-compliance.”

    Our record could not hear the outcome; official says passed unanimously. Check the recording at this point or the official vote tally.

  2. differsFuture agenda items▶ 43:37

    recording Maintenance plan and policies, and business manager supervision, to be added to future agendas.

    town’s minutes —

    Official minutes do not record this agenda decision; check the recording and the official agenda.

In one record only: 2 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Grease trap cleaning cost figures: Grease trap cleaning cost: 125 dollars, 250 dollars, about 750, $1,300 ▶ 7:42
  • Recording only — FY19 legal fee figures: FY19 legal fees, flat fee versus hourly: ninety one ninety nine hour rate, fifty nine seventy, 114 87 ▶ 30:36
  • Town’s minutes only — MWRA Ashland notice reviewed, no action: “commission reviewed notice and no action was necessary.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Mass. Ave. manhole follow-up: “joe will contact jack about mass. ave. manhole status.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Munis quote review: “barb will be looking at the munis quote in mid-august.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Joe and clerk Jane Ranley attendance: “jane ranley sewer commission board clerk”

Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 7:42Grease trap cleaning cost

    Each internal trap cleaning costs a set amount, with the external tank costing more to empty; fewer cleanings would save money.

    as heard:125 dollars250 dollarsabout 750$1,300

  2. ▶ 30:36FY19 legal fees, flat fee versus hourly

    The commission is trying to pay a flat fee rather than the hourly bill, which would roughly halve the invoice.

    as heard:ninety one ninety nine hour ratefifty nine seventy114 87

  3. ▶ 32:49Grease trap non-compliance fees

    A letter set an initial non-compliance fee and a daily fee; the commission discussed the date from which the daily fee applies.

    as heard:fifty dollartwenty five dollar$25 a day

  4. ▶ 40:36John Fitch Highway expenses

    Information arrived showing a reduction; it will be placed on the next agenda.

    as heard:a hundred K

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 24:55Karl to bring two or three engineering firms to the next meeting to discuss the scope of the system evaluation.
  • ▶ 28:29Counsel to advise on a sub-metering policy; the commission will then decide how to approach the park owner.
  • ▶ 39:14Flow assessment consultant to be invited for the August 28 meeting.
  • ▶ 43:37Maintenance plan and policies, and business manager supervision, to be added to future agendas.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed handouts:

  • Carl L. suggested scope for I/l evaluation
  • Carl L. list of discussion points for Flow Assessment

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • MWRA Notice for Town of Ashland
  • Munis quote

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 0:00waiver request submitted July 3rdletter or email· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 18:52suggested scope handoutother, shown· in the minutes’ list (“Carl L. suggested scope for I/l evaluation”)
  • ▶ 30:15MTC invoiceother· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 37:26minutes of 7 10 18prior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Carl L. list of discussion points for Flow Assessment.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Grease trap cleaning waiver requestvoted · 18:50 long · water sewer, fees, facilities
  2. ▶ 18:52Evaluation scope and engineering firmsKarl to bring firms next meeting · 6:28 long · water sewer
  3. ▶ 25:20Sub-metering policy for park ownerawaiting counsel · 4:40 long · water sewer, policy, legal
  4. ▶ 30:00FY19 legal fees and flat feefollow-up pending · 2:40 long · legal, budget
  5. ▶ 32:40Grease trap compliance penaltiesmotion made, outcome not audible · 4:45 long · fees, legal
  6. ▶ 37:26Minutes of 7/10/18voted · 0:54 long
  7. ▶ 38:20MWRA notice, flow assessments, John Fitch Highway information, future agendasinformational · 5:00 long · water sewer
  8. ▶ 43:20Maintenance plan, communication policy, billing software, adjournmentinformational; adjourned · 5:46 long · policy, water sewer

What the captions could not carry

  • Outcome of the vote on the retroactive $25-a-day fee is not stated.
  • Adjournment vote outcome not stated.
  • Parts of the discussion around 1195 to 1241 are missing.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 32:49Sewer use regulationsWhat do the sewer rules require for grease trap cleaning and what penalties apply?

These are ours, and they are not the record

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