What was said
Sewer Commission, August 28, 2018
the recording · 2:16 long, about 17,852 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/sewer-commission/2018.json
The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 1:00The Sewer Commission heard Flow Assessment explain how its three sewer flow meters are calibrated and checked, and what they show on infiltration and inflow.
- ▶ 1:50:17A motion to have Barb work out a legal fee transfer with the town, based on hours used at the proposed hourly rate, drew no audible second.
- ▶ 1:43:44Members objected to monthly legal billing that varies with other boards' use of town counsel, and preferred an hourly rate.
- ▶ 2:00:27Minutes of 7/30 and 8/14 were approved, and first-quarter FY19 sewer bills and a privilege fee commitment were signed.
- ▶ 2:15:58The open space plan sewer section update was set for the September 11th agenda, and meeting night and frequency for a later agenda.
Why it matters — our reading
- How the sewer system's legal costs are billed, by hours used or by a monthly share that moves with other boards' use, decides what sewer ratepayers cover.
- The meter and infiltration data bear on whether the system pays to treat groundwater, and on any engineering work later put to ratepayers.
Watch next
- September 11th agenda: the open space plan sewer section update.
- A future agenda item on the commission's meeting night and frequency.
contracts and unionsfeeslegalpublic commentwater sewer
Present: Carl (member); Barb (business manager). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 1:50:17Authorize Barb to work out the transfer with the town for legal fees based on hours used at the proposed hourly rate.not audible
And 3 procedural: approve the minutes of 7/30/18. (▶ 1:55:14); accept the minutes from 8/14. (▶ 1:58:17); adjourn. (▶ 2:16:45).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 1 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.
recording Authorize Barb to work out the transfer with the town for legal fees based on hours used at the proposed hourly rate. — not audible
town’s minutes “commission discussed the basis for the billing and the flat fee of $199/hour.”
Ours records an authorization for Barb to arrange a legal fee transfer (outcome not audible); official records no vote or transfer and only that Joe will talk with Heather. Check the video and the official record for whether a vote occurred.
recording Transfer from sewer to the town for legal fees based on hours used — $199 an hour (discussed only)
town’s minutes “joe will talk with heather about the legal billing.”
Ours describes a sewer-to-town transfer and Barb's role; official only says Joe will talk with Heather. Check who was assigned follow-up.
recording Carl (member); Barb (business manager)
town’s minutes “carl added that they are most concerned about the whalom area.”
Official lists eight present (Carl L., John R., Ryan S., Paul, Joe, John Londa, John K., Barb); ours lists only Carl and Barb. Check the full roster.
In one record only: 5 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Flow meter equipment figures: Flow meter equipment: $3,700, $15,000, $20,000 ▶ 17:49
- Recording only — Privilege fee commitment: Privilege fee commitment: eighty thousand two hundred ▶ 1:59:01
- Recording only — Q1 FY19 sewer bills: Q1 FY19 sewer bills: two hundred and ten thousand fifty eight dollars and forty six cents ▶ 2:00:27
- Recording only — Open space plan sewer section on Sept 11 agenda: The open space plan sewer section update is to go on the September 11th agenda. ▶ 2:15:58
- Recording only — Meeting night and frequency on future agenda: Meeting night and frequency will be put on a future agenda. ▶ 2:01:46
- Town’s minutes only — Vote to accept 8/14/18 minutes: “motion: ryan s. to accept the minutes of 8/14/18. second: john r. vote: unanimous”
- Town’s minutes only — Wait to vote on meter selection until Joan present: “commission will wait to vote on the meter selection when joan is present.”
- Town’s minutes only — Munis quote and Barb to confirm with IT: “carl suggested that barb go to steve malandrinos(it) to confirm what we need from”
- Town’s minutes only — Other decisions: Fitchburg highway cost sharing, equipment list, grease tank, I/I work, vendors: “paul offered to put together a list of all equipment for the commission.”
Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
Transfers
| at | what moved | amount, as heard | outcome |
|---|---|---|---|
| ▶ 1:50:17 | Transfer from sewer to the town for legal fees based on hours used | $199 an hour | discussed only |
The money
- ▶ 17:49Flow meter equipment
Vendor described meter costs and the tradeoff of owning versus renting meters.
as heard:$3,700$15,000$20,000
- ▶ 1:43:44FY19 legal fees
Two invoices from town counsel were discussed; members objected to monthly billing varying with other boards' use and preferred an hourly rate.
as heard:114924$199 an hour
- ▶ 1:59:01Privilege fee commitment
A privilege fee commitment for a new building was signed so assessors can process payment.
as heard:eighty thousand two hundred
- ▶ 2:00:27Q1 FY19 sewer bills
First quarter bills were presented for signature.
as heard:two hundred and ten thousand fifty eight dollars and forty six cents
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 2:15:58The open space plan sewer section update is to go on the September 11th agenda.
- ▶ 2:01:46Meeting night and frequency will be put on a future agenda.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The minutes print a list, headed commission looked over and discussed data printouts and site pictures provided by paul
, with nothing under it.
Named in the running text, not in a list:
- Data printouts and site pictures provided by Paul
- Two legal invoices (6 1/2 hours for $924; .3 hours for $114)
- Munis quote
Heard in the recording
- ▶ 2:03vendor procedure documentsother· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Public comment
- ▶ 1:13:29A resident, director of fundraising for the Bengals youth football, asked the town to lower turf field fees, saying the group may have to leave Lunenburg.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- water sewer131 min · 96%
- technology75 min · 55%
- fees14 min · 10%
- facilities11 min · 8%
- legal9 min · 7%
- policy7 min · 5%
- public comment5 min · 3%
- athletics5 min · 3%
- contracts and unions4 min · 3%
- planning and zoning3 min · 2%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:00Opening and retirement recognitioninformational · 1:00 long
- ▶ 1:00Flow Assessment presentation on meters and infiltrationinformational · 1:10:59 long · water sewer, technology
- ▶ 1:11:59Public comment and Bengals field feesinformational · 4:31 long · public comment, athletics, fees
- ▶ 1:16:30School grease trapreferred to next inspection · 11:13 long · water sewer, facilities
- ▶ 1:27:43Subdivision hearing recapinformational · 3:11 long · planning and zoning, water sewer
- ▶ 1:30:54Infiltration engineering procurementinformational · 3:58 long · water sewer, contracts and unions
- ▶ 1:34:52Irrigation meters and manual meter policydeferred · 7:02 long · water sewer, policy
- ▶ 1:41:54Fitchburg cost sharing and legal feesmotion made, no second · 9:26 long · water sewer, legal, fees
- ▶ 1:51:20Billing software data formatinformational · 3:54 long · technology, water sewer
- ▶ 1:55:14Minutes and signaturesvoted · 6:08 long · water sewer
- ▶ 2:01:22Future agenda items and closingset · 15:23 long · water sewer
What the captions could not carry
- Vote counts for all motions
- Parts of the vendor presentation were garbled
Reports this meeting suggests
Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.
- ▶ 59:26Sewer infiltration costsHow much infiltration and inflow is in the sewer system and what has fixing it cost?
These are ours, and they are not the record
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