Sewer Commission, July 30, 2019

The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

contracts and unionsfeeslegalpersonnelpublic commentwater sewer

Present: John Reynolds (member (chair, resigning effective August 14)); Carl Luck (member); Ryan (member); Barb LaFave (business manager); Bill Hannigan (presenter (Hannigan Engineering)); Scott Medeiros (presenter (Woodard and Curran)); Kathy Clark (presenter (real estate agent for homeowners)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

1. ▶ 45:01Issue a contract to Woodard and Curran per the proposal for the I and I study.passed
2. ▶ 1:21:01Submit the commission vacancy to the selectmen for advertising and filling.passed
3. ▶ 1:35:33Name Carl Luck as liaison to Leominster for IMA discussions.passed

And 1 procedural: adjourn. (▶ 1:42:26).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 4 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 5 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

1. differsLeominster invoice amount

   recording Leominster capital improvement invoice: fifteen or twenty thousand

   town’s minutes “john asked the commission to select a liaison to leominster i a and wilbe sending an invoce for 515/2000.”

   Our minutes give fifteen or twenty thousand dollars. The official figure is garbled and reads as 515/2000. Check the actual invoice. The two may describe different invoices (capital improvement vs debt service).

2. differsBetterment abatement at 96 Oak Ave

   recording Betterment abatement request: 23000, eight thousand

   town’s minutes “barb added that the betterments were assessed in 2008 and town counsel has said that state law dictates that the abatement needs to be requested within 6 months of assessment.”

   Our minutes give dollar amounts. The official minutes print none and say the request is time-barred. Check the amounts and whether the commission will entertain the request.

3. differsMeeting on Small Water / pump station numbers

   recording A posted meeting next week, with the DPW director and the business manager, will cover what the Small Water contract covers and when Small Water can bill outside it.

   town’s minutes “commission discussed and asked barb to set up a meeting with heather & jack next week if possible.”

   Our minutes call it a posted meeting with the DPW director and business manager. The official minutes have Barb setting up a meeting with Heather (Town Manager) and Jack (DPW), and do not say it is posted. Check who attends and whether it is posted.

4. differsGathering documentation on the tight tank (189 Cross Rd.)

   recording The applicant's engineer will gather the documentation that convinced DEP of the tight tank and bring it back to the commission.

   town’s minutes “carl suggested that the commission check with wright pierce who did the cwmp and determined that the area was not an”

   Our minutes put the follow-up on the applicant's engineer. The official text has the commission checking with Wright Pierce, and the quote is cut off. Check who owns the follow-up.

5. differsAttendees: John Reynolds as chair and resigning, Ryan, Cathy Clark

   recording John Reynolds (member (chair, resigning effective August 14)); Kathy Clark (presenter (real estate agent for homeowners))

   town’s minutes “cathy clark, realtor (275 cross rd.), stated that the homeowners at 96 oak ave bought the house in 1998”

   Kathy and Cathy are the same person with a spelling difference. The official minutes do not mention John's resignation. Check the resignation and the chair role.

Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

1. ▶ 30:07Woodard and Curran I and I study proposal

   The consultant said the estimate includes some supplemental fieldwork that may not be needed, depending on the quality of the town's GIS data.

   as heard:nine or ten thousand dollars

2. ▶ 1:05:15Cost of I and I study and next I and I phase

   A resident put the study bid at about forty thousand. A member said the next I and I phase could cost a couple hundred thousand dollars over several years.

   as heard:forty thousanda couple hundred thousand dollars

3. ▶ 49:51Betterment abatement request

   The agent said the betterment was assessed as a two-family and the owners want it adjusted after conversion to single-family. Members said the abatement window is six months.

   as heard:23000eight thousand

4. ▶ 1:26:05Small Water call-out billing outside the contract

   A member said Small Water billed labor for work they believe the contract already covers, and asked for two years of invoices.

   as heard:$15,000a hundred thousand dollars

5. ▶ 1:34:07Leominster capital improvement invoice

   Leominster said by phone that an invoice for its capital improvement section of the IMA is coming, which surprised the business manager.

   as heard:fifteen or twenty thousand

6. ▶ 1:40:39Fitchburg invoice

   The chair was asked to initial a Fitchburg invoice.

   as heard:11 809 33

Settled without a vote

• ▶ 26:44The applicant's engineer will gather the documentation that convinced DEP of the tight tank and bring it back to the commission.
• ▶ 1:32:02A posted meeting next week, with the DPW director and the business manager, will cover what the Small Water contract covers and when Small Water can bill outside it.

Documents and exhibits

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Engineering maps showing previous perc testing (189 Cross Rd.).

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

1. ▶ 1:04:31A resident asked why the town is paying for an I and I study when a DEP standard exists, and how big the problem is. — Devraj, as heard, resident, 82 Highland Street
2. ▶ 1:17:44Urged residents to apply for the two open Sewer Commission seats and thanked the departing chair. — Carl, as heard, resident

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

• water sewer98 min · 96%
• contracts and unions31 min · 31%
• planning and zoning24 min · 24%
• public comment18 min · 17%
• legal16 min · 16%
• personnel4 min · 4%
• debt3 min · 3%
• fees3 min · 3%

The whole meeting, in order

1. ▶ 0:00Announcements: vacancies, grease trap renewals, irrigation meter policyinformational · 2:58 long · water sewer, fees
2. ▶ 2:58Crossroad parcel sewer district requestinformational; engineer to return with documentation · 24:27 long · water sewer, planning and zoning
3. ▶ 27:25Woodard and Curran I and I studyvoted · 20:35 long · water sewer, contracts and unions
4. ▶ 48:03Betterment abatement requestno resolution; owners to submit written case · 16:17 long · water sewer, legal
5. ▶ 1:04:31Public comment on the I and I studyinformational · 13:09 long · public comment, water sewer
6. ▶ 1:17:44Public comment and vacancy noticevoted · 4:26 long · public comment, personnel
7. ▶ 1:22:09Small Water contract and pump station maintenanceseparate meeting planned · 10:51 long · water sewer, contracts and unions
8. ▶ 1:33:03Leominster liaison and debt servicevoted · 3:13 long · water sewer, debt
9. ▶ 1:36:16Irrigation meter, grease trap, minutes, business manager report, adjournmentinformational; adjourned · 6:34 long · water sewer

What the captions could not carry

• Parts of the betterment discussion, including dates and which speaker said what.
• Some speakers in the engineer exchanges.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

• ▶ 1:07:23Sewer infiltration costsWhat is the study and next phase of infiltration and inflow work expected to cost, and how much flow is extra?
• ▶ 1:25:44Sewer pump contractWhat does the Small Water contract cover, and what has been billed outside it?already answered: thread:sewer-pump-procurement

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