What was said

Sewer Commission, October 29, 2019

the recording · 2:34 long, about 20,569 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 2:03:08The commission voted 4-1 to back the three-lot Cross Street sewer service area plan and take it to Town Meeting.
  2. ▶ 1:12:20A motion to sign the Woodard and Curran I&I study contract was put to the commission; the minutes record the vote as not audible.
  3. ▶ 32:22A motion to send a warning letter to Small Water, with 'days' changed to 'hours', was put; the vote is recorded as not audible.
  4. ▶ 2:21:42The commission voted to authorize the chair or another member to sign a partial betterment release for 101 Pleasant Street.
  5. ▶ 2:26:24No November 12 meeting will be held; the next meeting is November 19 with Small Water, and Pierce is asked to present a draft maintenance plan in December.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The Cross Street vote adds sewer service area, which Town Meeting voters will be asked to decide, and the I&I study bears on a possible added charge from Leominster in future sewer budgets.
  • Sewer invoices will also carry the annual irrigation meter program fee.

Watch next

  • November 19 meeting with Small Water, where the corrected letter and the I&I contract may come up.
  • Town Meeting vote on the Cross Street three-lot sewer service area.

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Present: Madam chair (chair); Barb (business manager); Jack (member); Carl (member); Mike (member); Dave (member); Ryan (member); Scott (presenter); Bruce Mallette (presenter); Bill Hanigan (presenter). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 32:22Send the letter to Small Water with the word days changed to hours — moved by a member, as heardnot audible
  2. ▶ 1:12:20Sign the I&I study contract as initially statednot audible
  3. ▶ 2:03:08Approve the plan submitted by Hanigan and take the three-lot formation to Town Meeting — moved by Dave, as heardpassed 4-1
  4. ▶ 2:21:42Authorize the chair or another member to sign the partial betterment release for 101 Pleasant Street — moved by Carl, as heardpassed

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of october 15th (▶ 2:25:41); adjourn (▶ 2:34:13).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 4 agree, 3 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 5 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsI&I study contract vote▶ 1:12:20

    recording Sign the I&I study contract as initially stated — not audible

    town’s minutes “vote: carl l., joan p., ryan s. and mike n.- aye. dave m.- nay.”

    Official records a 4-1 vote with Dave opposed, while ours has no audible result; check the official record of the vote and the motion wording.

  2. differsHanigan plan / three-lot formation vote▶ 2:03:08

    recording Approve the plan submitted by Hanigan and take the three-lot formation to Town Meeting — passed 4-1

    town’s minutes “vote: joan p., dave m., mike n. and ryan s.-aye. carl- nay.”

    Both say 4-1, but the official lists Carl as the nay; verify who dissented. Also, the official wording is 'with the discussion at town meeting'.

  3. differsLeominster I&I charge▶ 41:47

    recording Leominster I&I charge: a hundred and eighty thousand dollars; later a hundred and eighty five thousand dollars

    town’s minutes —

    Our two figures differ from each other ($180,000 vs $185,000), and the official prints none; check the recording for the right figure.

  4. differsMeeting schedule / Small Water date▶ 2:26:24

    recording No November 12 meeting; next meeting set for November 19 with Small Water.

    town’s minutes “the commission asked barb to invite them to the first meeting in december instead and to request a copy of the draft ahead of time.”

    The official does not record a Nov 19 meeting with Small Water; check the schedule. It says Special Town Meeting articles were presented for 11/12.

  5. differsPierce maintenance plan timing▶ 2:28:51

    recording Request Pierce to send its draft maintenance plan ahead of time and present it in December.

    town’s minutes “the commission asked barb to invite them to the first meeting in december instead and to request a copy of the draft ahead of time.”

    Substantially the same: December presentation with an advance draft. The official says 'instead' of 11/19, which ties to the schedule question above.

3 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Fitchburg invoice amount:Fitchburg invoice: 15 15 4→$15,494.12▶ 2:27:09
  • Bruce Mallette surname:Bruce Mallette (presenter)→Bruce Millette
  • Bill Hanigan surname:Bill Hanigan (presenter)→Bill Hannigan
In one record only: 4 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — I&I study contract $40,000: I&I study contract: $40,000 ▶ 59:31
  • Recording only — 101 Pleasant St fines $15,000: 101 Pleasant Street fines: 15,000 ▶ 2:17:23
  • Recording only — Grease trap penalty: Grease trap penalty: 950 dollars, $25 a day ▶ 2:24:57
  • Recording only — Irrigation meter annual fee $50: Irrigation meter annual fee: $50 ▶ 0:24
  • Town’s minutes only — Attendees Joan P., Lauren Hertel, Adam Costa, and others: “scott medeiros and lauren hertel, woodward & curran”
  • Town’s minutes only — Article 4 moves reserve capacity funds to Stabilization Fund: “article 4-moves reserve capacity funds to the stabilization fund.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Highfield Village sewer payments: “payments should start in mid-november, which include interest. if the property is sold, they must pay the total in tull.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Veterans celebration announcement: “dave announced that nov 13th will be a celebration for all veterans at devens commons center.”

Compared 2026-11-04. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 0:24Irrigation meter annual fee

    The annual irrigation meter program fee will appear on upcoming sewer invoices.

    as heard:$50

  2. ▶ 41:47Leominster I&I charge

    A member said the Leominster I&I charge would add cost to next year's budget if not resolved.

    as heard:a hundred and eighty thousand dollars

  3. ▶ 59:31I&I study contract

    Members debated whether the study fee is worth spending.

    as heard:$40,000

  4. ▶ 1:07:10Leominster I&I cost

    A member said doing nothing could cost the town a large annual amount if Leominster enforces its I&I terms.

    as heard:a hundred and eighty five thousand dollars

  5. ▶ 2:27:09Fitchburg invoice

    One invoice from Fitchburg was reported, higher because a meter was out earlier.

    as heard:15 15 4

  6. ▶ 2:17:23101 Pleasant Street fines

    A member said environmental fines on the property were thought to be around a set amount.

    as heard:15,000

  7. ▶ 2:24:57Grease trap penalty

    A landlord was sent a certified letter for unpaid daily fees.

    as heard:950 dollars$25 a day

  8. ▶ 2:11:01Reserve capacity article

    Clarifying that Town Meeting article funds come from reserve capacity.

    as heard:nine thousand nine hundred ninety three

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 2:26:24No November 12 meeting; next meeting set for November 19 with Small Water.
  • ▶ 2:28:51Request Pierce to send its draft maintenance plan ahead of time and present it in December.
  • ▶ 2:30:57A member volunteers to draft a prorating change to the sewer regulations.
  • ▶ 2:12:42Barb to correct the Small Water letter for Adam to send; Small Water already invited for November 19.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed handouts::

  • Letter by Town Counsel regarding Small Water Systems Services
  • Updated engineering drawing for 189 Cross Road, provided by Bill Hannigan

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Letters to residents at 33 & 34 Elizabeth St. (sent 10/21)
  • Letter from Greg Cucchiara re. pro-rating of sewer charges
  • Maintenance Plan draft proposal (Wright Pierce)
  • I/I 3rd party review contract (Woodward & Curran)
  • Special Town Meeting warrant articles (Article 8, 189 Cross Road SSA)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 19:05small water contractcontract or agreement, shown· in the minutes’ list (“Letter by Town Counsel regarding Small Water Systems Services”)
  • ▶ 19:46the letter drafted by Adamletter or email, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 34:43Woodard and Curran proposalcontract or agreement· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:16:41sketch of sewer service areaplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Letter from Greg Cucchiara re. pro-rating of sewer charges”)
  • ▶ 1:29:56Board of Health letterletter or email, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:21:42partial release of bettermentcontract or agreement, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:25:41minutes of October 15thprior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Updated engineering drawing for 189 Cross Road, provided by Bill Hannigan.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 2:32:26A Salvation Army volunteer invited veterans and active-duty military to a free dinner on November 13th at Devens.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Announcements: irrigation meter policy, Town Meetinginformational · 1:07 long · water sewer, fees, town meeting
  2. ▶ 1:07Elizabeth Street I&I and dye testno resolution; DPW to look at 34 · 16:53 long · water sewer
  3. ▶ 18:00Small Water lettervoted · 15:00 long · contracts and unions, legal, water sewer
  4. ▶ 33:00Woodard and Curran I&I study contractvoted to sign · 42:40 long · contracts and unions, water sewer, budget
  5. ▶ 1:15:40189 Cross Street sewer service area expansionvoted 4-1 · 53:40 long · planning and zoning, town meeting, water sewer
  6. ▶ 2:09:20Town Meeting article and Leominster IMAinformational · 6:37 long · town meeting, warrant article, water sewer
  7. ▶ 2:15:57101 Pleasant Street betterment releasevoted · 8:37 long · legal, water sewer
  8. ▶ 2:24:34Grease trap, minutes, schedule, business manager report, public commentminutes approved; adjourned · 9:39 long · water sewer, fees

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote count on sending the Small Water letter and on signing the I&I contract.
  • Garbled stretches during Cross Street discussion near 5481-5531.
  • Adjournment vote result.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 41:47Sewer infiltration costsWhat could the Leominster I&I charge cost ratepayers, and what has been spent chasing infiltration?
  • ▶ 1:15:40Sewer service area expansionWhat are the rules and precedents for extending the sewer service area on Cross Street?

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What changed

Version 15 — updated September 20, 2026