What was said
Sewer Commission, July 28, 2020
the recording · 0:56 long, about 7,618 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/sewer-commission/2020.json
The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 10:36The Sewer Commission voted to accept the updated irrigation deduct meter policy and credit program, dated 7/28/2020.
- ▶ 48:33Members agreed informally that the business manager will write the town manager to endorse about 50 extra hours of help entering meter IDs, subject to the town manager's approval.
- ▶ 21:40Members agreed on a protocol: the business manager is the point person for town counsel, and commissioners inform each other before seeing counsel.
- ▶ 16:25The commission heard that the FY21 budget report is not final because FY20 encumbered purchase orders are on hold and some invoices cannot yet be processed.
- ▶ 4:13The operations and maintenance RFP for the stations was circulated, with a bid deadline and award date set.
Why it matters — our reading
- The deduct meter policy decides how irrigation-meter customers get credit on their sewer bills, and the commission said it will be posted and brought back for public approval.
- The extra paid hours and the Woodard & Curran billing work bear on whether meter data is loaded correctly, which feeds the sewer bills residents receive.
Watch next
- Meetings are set for Aug 11 and Aug 25, 2020.
- The business manager is to send the Woodard & Curran scope of services to members before the next meeting, and the updated deduct meter policy is to be posted and brought back for public approval.
contracts and unionseconomic developmentfeeslegalpersonnelwater sewer
Present: Dave McDonald (chair); Mr. Reynolds (member); Mr. Ransom (member); Mr. Devakas (member); Bob (business manager); Jane (staff (assisting business manager)); Adam (town counsel liaison/town official); Bernie (town official). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 10:36Accept the deduct meter policy and credit program updates dated 7/28/2020passed
And 2 procedural: approve the minutes (▶ 18:32); adjourn (▶ 55:33).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 7 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 5 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.
recording Extra hours for Jane for meter ID entry: 40 and 50 hours, 700 and 950 dollars, 800 plus meter ids
town’s minutes “barb estimated 40-50 hours to get meter ids into the system, at a cost of $700-900.”
Hours match, but our upper cost is $950 and the official upper cost is $900. Check the recording to see whether $900 or $950 was said.
recording Business manager to write the town manager endorsing about 50 extra hours of help for meter ID entry, with the commission copied, subject to the town manager's approval.
town’s minutes “the commission discussed and agreed to support barb, but they should assess if it needs to be done now.”
Ours records a decision to write to the town manager for about 50 hours. The official minutes record only general support and a need to assess timing. Check what was decided.
recording Members agreed on a protocol that the business manager is the point person for town counsel and commissioners inform each other before seeing counsel.
town’s minutes “dave added that barb should be the point person and the commission discussed how to use the counsel hours.”
Both name the business manager as point person. Only ours records an agreed protocol that commissioners inform each other before seeing counsel. The official minutes say only that the hours were discussed.
recording The updated deduct meter policy will be posted and brought back for public approval.
town’s minutes “barb added that she will put it on the agenda and post the change in the lunenburg ledger in advance of the”
Both describe posting ahead of public hearings. Ours says the policy would come back for public approval, but the official minutes also record the policy as accepted by a 4-0 vote on 7/28. Check the sequence.
recording Dave McDonald (chair), Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Ransom, Mr. Devakas (members), Bob (business manager), Jane, Adam, Bernie
town’s minutes “vote: john-aye, brett-aye, mike-aye and dave-aye”
The official minutes list four commissioners (Dave, John R., Brett R., Mike D.) and Barb. Ours names the business manager Bob and lists other surnames, which are likely misheard. Check the roster against the recording. Ours also lists Jane, Adam and Bernie, who are not in the official minutes.
In one record only: 2 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Irrigation meter credit fee dates: Irrigation meter credit fees: june 4th, august 4th ▶ 2:50
- Recording only — FY21 budget and FY20 encumbrances: FY21 budget and FY20 encumbrances: fy 20, fy 21 ▶ 16:25
- Town’s minutes only — RFP approval and distribution: “the commissioners were all in agreement with the rfp. barb stated the schedule: 8/12 - pre-proposal conference, 8”
- Town’s minutes only — Grease trap renewal fee waiver: “the commission had agreed to waive the fees, but the renewal application still needs to be sent in.”
- Town’s minutes only — Maintenance plan on a future agenda: “barb added that they will to add the discussion to an upcoming agenda.”
- Town’s minutes only — Retirement of DPW Manager: “public comment-dave announced that jack rodriquenz, dpw manager, will be retiring and he thanked jack for”
Compared 2026-11-03. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 4:13RFP for station operations and maintenance
The RFP was circulated with bids due Aug 21 and award Sept 1.
as heard:august 21stseptember first
- ▶ 16:25FY21 budget and FY20 encumbrances
The budget report is not final because FY20 encumbered purchase orders are on hold; some invoices cannot be processed yet.
as heard:fy 20fy 21
- ▶ 34:24Holdback on Woodard & Curran billing
The email suggested holding back a share of the contract until the billing file and algorithm work is done; the business manager said most of the contract is already paid.
as heard:10 to 20 percentninety percentfour thousand
- ▶ 45:29Extra hours for Jane for meter ID entry
Estimated 40 to 50 hours of help to load meter IDs, with a cost estimate given.
as heard:40 and 50 hours700 and 950 dollars800 plus meter ids
- ▶ 51:22Invoices for review
An invoice for May-June was reviewed, plus a legal counsel summary for July.
as heard:ten thousand seven hundred seventeen dollars689 dollars
- ▶ 2:50Irrigation meter credit fees
Fees were due June 4th and no credit is given if not received by August 4th.
as heard:june 4thaugust 4th
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 48:33Business manager to write the town manager endorsing about 50 extra hours of help for meter ID entry, with the commission copied, subject to the town manager's approval.
- ▶ 21:40Members agreed on a protocol that the business manager is the point person for town counsel and commissioners inform each other before seeing counsel.
- ▶ 9:10The updated deduct meter policy will be posted and brought back for public approval.
- ▶ 55:13Next meetings set for Aug 11 and Aug 25.
- ▶ 40:14Business manager to send the Woodard & Curran scope of services to members for review before the next meeting.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The minutes print a list, headed handouts:
:
- Final RFP (Pumping Station Operations & Maintenance)
- Carl's email of 7/28/20 re: V/1 3rd Party Review
Named in the running text, not in a list:
- Deduct Meter policy and credit program as updated on 7/28/20
- Maintenance plan
Heard in the recording
- ▶ 4:13the RFPcontract or agreement, shown· in the minutes’ list (“Final RFP (Pumping Station Operations & Maintenance)”)
- ▶ 7:29irrigation deduct meter policydraft policy or bylaw, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Deduct Meter policy and credit program as updated on 7/28/20”)
- ▶ 16:25fiscal budget reportbudget document, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 18:32the minutesprior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 30:37Carl's emailletter or email, shown· in the minutes’ list (“Carl's email of 7/28/20 re: V/1 3rd Party Review”)
- ▶ 43:23Woodard and Curran contract, 33 page attachmentcontract or agreement· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- water sewer42 min · 74%
- contracts and unions24 min · 43%
- technology21 min · 37%
- policy14 min · 25%
- legal10 min · 18%
- budget8 min · 14%
- fees6 min · 10%
- economic development4 min · 7%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:02Call to order, remote meeting notice and roll callinformational · 2:28 long
- ▶ 2:30Announcements, irrigation meter deadlines, public comment, tribute to retiring Jackinformational · 1:23 long · water sewer, fees
- ▶ 3:53O&M RFP statusinformational · 3:36 long · contracts and unions, water sewer
- ▶ 7:29Irrigation deduct meter policy revisionsvoted · 4:11 long · policy, water sewer, fees
- ▶ 11:40Bright Farms greenhouse project and sewer connectioninformational · 4:04 long · economic development, water sewer
- ▶ 15:44Grease trap permits and FY21 budgetinformational · 2:48 long · budget, water sewer
- ▶ 18:32Minutesvoted · 1:03 long
- ▶ 19:35Business discussion: protocol for contacting town counselagreed informally · 10:00 long · legal, policy
- ▶ 29:35Meter ID import project and Woodard & Curran billing toolsupport for extra hours agreed informally · 20:43 long · contracts and unions, technology, water sewer
- ▶ 50:18Maintenance plan, invoices, grease trap program, communication, future agenda itemsinformational · 4:55 long · water sewer, budget
- ▶ 55:13Upcoming meetings and adjournmentadjourned · 1:07 long
What the captions could not carry
- Adjournment vote outcome not captured.
- Name and role of Adam and Bernie not clear from captions.
- Business discussion portions are partly garbled by caption errors.
Reports this meeting suggests
Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.
- ▶ 16:25Sewer enterprise financesHow is the sewer commission budget standing, with FY20 encumbrances and the third-party review contract?already answered:
thread:sewer-pump-procurement
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