What was said

Sewer Commission, August 11, 2020

the recording · 1:19 long, about 10,010 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 42:12The Sewer Commission voted to keep a commissioner as liaison with the third party and forward his list of questions on the draft I&I report to Woodard & Curran.
  2. ▶ 54:12The commission voted to accept the flow assessment monitoring contract and the equipment leasing contract.
  3. ▶ 30:02The business manager was authorized to start converting the billing meter import project and to give the commission and town manager a schedule.
  4. ▶ 31:24Review of the draft report is likely to move to the 25th meeting, with a final report targeted for September 11 if the consultant agrees.
  5. ▶ 1:08:31The irrigation meter policy public hearing is to be held at the 25th meeting and again later.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Sewer bills depend on the meter data and billing system now being converted, and the consultant's I&I report will shape what the commission does about groundwater and stormwater entering the sewer.
  • The irrigation meter policy hearing and the pump station operations bid affect how irrigation credits are given and who runs and maintains the pump stations, and the town budget, mostly taxes, and sewer rates pay for repairs such as wipes damage.

Watch next

  • Public hearing on the irrigation meter policy at the 25th meeting.
  • Final Woodard & Curran I&I report, targeted for September 11 if the consultant agrees.

contracts and unionsfeespublic commentsuperintendent reporttechnologywater sewer

Present: dave mcdonald (chair); john reynolds (member, remote); brett (member); jack (member); rob (member); mike (member); kyle luck (member); barb (business manager); jane (note taker). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 42:12Keep Carl as liaison with the third party, forward his list of questions to Woodard and Curran, and work toward a meeting to discuss answers. — moved by brett, as heardpassed
  2. ▶ 54:12Accept the flow assessment monitoring contract and the equipment leasing contract.passed

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of 7/28. (▶ 1:06:42); adjourn. (▶ 1:19:10).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 3 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 6 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsVote on Carl as liaison and forwarding questions to Woodard and Curran▶ 42:12

    recording Keep Carl as liaison with the third party, forward his list of questions to Woodard and Curran, and work toward a meeting to discuss answers. — passed

    town’s minutes “dave also suggested that barb contact w&c to let them know what was discussed and ask them what they can offer.”

    Ours records a passed vote; the official minutes show only a suggestion by Dave and no vote, and do not mention Carl remaining liaison. Check the recording and the official minutes.

  2. differsWho attends the pre-bid conference▶ 56:19

    recording One or two members to attend the pre-bid conference; a Zoom link to be sent to members.

    town’s minutes “barb, jack and brett will be on the call.”

    Ours says one or two members; the official minutes name Barb, Jack and Brett. Check who is attending.

  3. differsLegal policy: approval vs discussion▶ 1:07:48

    recording New legal counsel policy to be sent next week for approval.

    town’s minutes “barb will send it out to the commission for discussion at a future meeting.”

    Ours says it is sent for approval next week; the official minutes say it goes out for discussion at a future meeting. Check the recording on timing and purpose.

  4. differsMeter import project hours▶ 23:21

    recording Meter import project hours: 150 hours, 40 and 50 hours

    town’s minutes “the town manager okayed having jane work up to 19 hrs/week, to help barb with the project.”

    Ours gives 150, 40 and 50 hours; the official minutes give only up to 19 hrs/week for Jane. Check the recording for the hours discussed.

  5. differsIrrigation meter policy public hearing▶ 1:08:31

    recording Irrigation meter policy public hearing to be held at the 25th meeting and again later.

    town’s minutes “the changes are the policy name, fees and repercussions for non-payment.”

    The official minutes describe the policy changes but record no public hearing. Check whether a hearing was scheduled.

  6. differsAttendees

    recording dave mcdonald (chair); john reynolds; brett; jack; rob; mike; kyle luck; barb; jane (note taker)

    town’s minutes “public comment-jack said he had scheduled jetting of the lines, that had been put off from the last fiscal year.”

    The official minutes confirm Dave, Brett, John, Jack and Barb. Our list adds Rob, Mike, Kyle Luck and Jane, and the official roll call has only three voting members, so Rob and Kyle may be misheard. Check the attendance list.

In one record only: 3 from the recording, 5 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Irrigation meter fee: Irrigation meter fee: fifty dollar fee ▶ 2:46
  • Recording only — Flow assessment maintenance contract amount: Flow assessment maintenance contract: 99.60 ▶ 50:12
  • Recording only — Draft report review timing: Draft report review likely pushed to the 25th meeting with the final report targeted for September 11, if the consultant agrees. ▶ 31:24
  • Town’s minutes only — Bright Farms on 8/25 agenda: “they will be on the agenda of 8/25 to discuss the project.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Jack to calculate clog costs and ask about Safe Act reimbursement: “dave suggested jack calculate the cost due to the clogs and ask heather if they can get reimbursement from the safe act.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Barb to email Brett and Mike about next flow meter assessment: “barb will email brett and mike when the next assessment is scheduled.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Meter import to be operational before adding to contract: “the commission agreed that they need to proceed with the meter import and get it operational, before adding it to the contract.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Brett's request for agenda items on cameraing lines and manhole covers: “brett asked to add discussion of jack's suggestions for cameraing lines and repairing manhole covers.”

Compared 2026-11-03. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:46Irrigation meter fee

    Twelve accounts have not paid the annual fee and will get no irrigation credit on the next sewer invoice.

    as heard:fifty dollar fee

  2. ▶ 23:21Meter import project hours

    Estimate rose from the earlier figure to a larger number of hours; the town manager is aware and budget hours were allocated.

    as heard:150 hours40 and 50 hours

  3. ▶ 50:12Flow assessment maintenance contract

    Quarterly maintenance cost is unchanged from past years; approval to sign was sought.

    as heard:99.60

  4. ▶ 51:39Flow meter equipment lease

    Lease covers repair and replacement of obsolete equipment, and is in the budget separate from the main flow contract.

    as heard:540010 000

  5. ▶ 1:15:57Wipes damage cost recovery

    The chair asked that pump damage costs from COVID wipes be checked for possible reimbursement.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 30:02Business manager authorized to start converting the billing/meter import project and provide a schedule to the commission, town manager and others.
  • ▶ 31:24Draft report review likely pushed to the 25th meeting with the final report targeted for September 11, if the consultant agrees.
  • ▶ 56:19One or two members to attend the pre-bid conference; a Zoom link to be sent to members.
  • ▶ 1:07:48New legal counsel policy to be sent next week for approval.
  • ▶ 1:08:31Irrigation meter policy public hearing to be held at the 25th meeting and again later.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed handouts::

  • Carl Luck's 3rd party input email and Compliance concerns with contract's scope of services
  • Flow Assessment contracts for Flow Monitoring and Equipment Lease

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Draft Report
  • RFP - Pump Station Operations & Maintenance
  • proposed Deduct Meter Policy
  • new legal policy

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 12:29Woodard and Curran draft reportreport, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Draft Report”)
  • ▶ 12:29Carl's input/notesmemo, shown· in the minutes’ list (“Carl Luck's 3rd party input email and Compliance concerns with contract's scope of services”)
  • ▶ 50:12Flow assessment contractcontract or agreement, shown· in the minutes’ list (“Flow Assessment contracts for Flow Monitoring and Equipment Lease”)
  • ▶ 51:39Equipment lease contractcontract or agreement, shown· in the minutes’ list (“Flow Assessment contracts for Flow Monitoring and Equipment Lease”)
  • ▶ 55:15RFPother· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“RFP - Pump Station Operations & Maintenance”)
  • ▶ 1:06:01FY20 budgetbudget document, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:06:42Minutes of 7/28prior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 4:10A member reported on pump station jetting, wipes clogging pumps, sand infiltration needing camera work, and shoddy manhole covers needing repair.
  2. ▶ 1:11:24A commissioner asked that the earlier jetting and manhole comments be placed on a future agenda.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:22Call to order, roll call, remote meeting rulesinformational · 2:03 long
  2. ▶ 2:25Announcements: irrigation meter upgrades and unpaid feesinformational · 1:45 long · fees, water sewer
  3. ▶ 4:10Public comment: jetting, wipes, manhole covers; thanks to retiring memberinformational · 8:17 long · public comment, water sewer
  4. ▶ 12:27Woodard & Curran draft I&I report and meter import billing projectvoted · 37:23 long · water sewer, contracts and unions, technology
  5. ▶ 49:50Flow assessment contractsvoted · 5:04 long · contracts and unions, water sewer
  6. ▶ 54:54RFP for pump station operation and maintenanceinformational · 9:45 long · contracts and unions, water sewer
  7. ▶ 1:04:39Bright Farms, grease trap program, FY20 budget, minutes, legal policyvoted · 3:52 long · water sewer, budget
  8. ▶ 1:08:31Business manager report, agenda setting, wipes, schedule, adjournmentvoted · 11:13 long · water sewer, fees

What the captions could not carry

  • Roll call is partly garbled and the member count and names are uncertain.
  • Vote counts are not stated; only voice 'hi' responses appear.
  • Which pump station dollar amounts, if any, were discussed is not stated.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 7:17Sewer infiltration costsWhat would an inflow and infiltration program and expanded line jetting cost the sewer enterprise?
  • ▶ 54:54Sewer pump contractWhat will the new pump station operations contract cost and who bid?already answered: thread:sewer-pump-procurement

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