What was said

Sewer Commission, October 27, 2020

the recording · 1:24 long, about 10,741 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 52:21The Sewer Commission voted 4-1 to start using the sewer system maintenance plan as a current draft, to be improved over time; one member voted no.
  2. ▶ 56:17The plan will return on future agendas, with a workshop wanted once the new DPW director starts, about two weeks out.
  3. ▶ 4:48The commission met a new operations and maintenance contractor and heard about pump station condition and obsolete controls.
  4. ▶ 1:08:32For a sewer connection at 384 Mass Ave, the chair held that no delay is needed, and a copy of the state drawing is wanted for the files.
  5. ▶ 1:23:09A member asked that his marked-up copy of the maintenance plan be entered into the record and distributed to the commission.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The maintenance plan guides how the town's sewer pump stations are kept up, and repairs or replacements of aging equipment are paid for through sewer rates, so how complete the plan is bears on future sewer costs.
  • The plan was adopted as a working draft rather than a final document, so its scope may still change at the workshop and in later agenda items.

Watch next

  • Meetings are set for November 10 and November 17, with November 24 possible.
  • A maintenance plan workshop once the new DPW director starts, about two weeks out; copies of the plan are available at the DPW.

contracts and unionsfeespersonnelplanning and zoningpublic commenttown departmentswater sewer

Present: Dave McDonald (chair); Michael Devacas (member); Aaron Reynolds (member); Brett Ramsen (member, remote); Jack Rodgers (DPW director); Bob (sewer commission staff (billing and administration)); Mr. Luck (Carl) (member); John (member); Barb (DPW staff); Jane (staff); Chip Empery (presenter (operations and maintenance contractor)); Al Parkhead (presenter (operations and maintenance contractor)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 52:21Start using the sewer system maintenance plan as the current draft, to be improved over time — moved by Mike, as heardpassed 4-1 (one no, from Mr. Luck)

And 2 procedural: accept the minutes of 10/13 (▶ 1:02:08); adjourn the meeting (▶ 1:23:17).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 4 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsVote on adopting the maintenance plan▶ 52:21

    recording Start using the sewer system maintenance plan as the current draft, to be improved over time — passed 4-1 (one no, from Mr. Luck)

    town’s minutes “roll call vote: mike-aye, carl-aye, brett-aye, dave-aye, john-abstained”

    Ours records 4-1 with Luck voting no; the official minutes' roll call shows Carl aye and John abstaining, so the tally and the people differ. The structured official summary lists no votes. Check the recording and the clerk's full minutes.

  2. differsMaintenance plan follow-up plan▶ 56:17

    recording The maintenance plan will return on future agendas and a workshop is wanted once the new DPW director starts, about two weeks out.

    town’s minutes “and they could plan to come up with a new revision by june 30th.”

    Ours describes a workshop after the new director starts. The official minutes describe piece-by-piece review with a June 30 revision target. Check the recording.

  3. differs384 Mass Ave drawing▶ 1:08:32

    recording For 384 Mass Ave, the chair held that no delay is needed and a copy of the state drawing is wanted for the files.

    town’s minutes “the commission discussed and barb will get a more detailed drawing when it goes to the state for approval.”

    Both involve a drawing, but they differ on who obtains it and what it is (copy of state drawing vs more detailed drawing). Check the recording.

In one record only: 4 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Wright-Pierce maintenance plan consultant contract: Maintenance plan consultant contract (Wright-Pierce): 23 000 ▶ 39:42
  • Recording only — Grease trap cost for new pizza restaurant at 88 Mass Ave: External grease trap cost for a new pizza restaurant at 88 Mass Ave: seventy five hundred bucks ▶ 1:14:32
  • Recording only — Jack to prepare responses to questions: Jack to prepare responses to the commission's list of questions by the end of the week. ▶ 28:39
  • Recording only — Next meeting dates: Next meetings set for November 10 and November 17, with November 24 possible; copies of the plan are available at the DPW. ▶ 1:21:16
  • Town’s minutes only — Grease trap non-compliance letters: “sent out certified letters, with the non-compliance fee.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Correction to section 2.6.1: “john also suggested one correction to remove reference to capital improvement in section 2.6.1 that”
  • Town’s minutes only — Pump station equipment and generator program follow-up: “mike suggested meeting again to discuss the maintenance program, as well as parts needed for repairs.”

Compared 2026-11-03. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 39:42Maintenance plan consultant contract (Wright-Pierce)

    A member noted the contract for the plan was a set amount and did not want to throw the work away.

    as heard:23 000

  2. ▶ 1:12:06Fitchburg monthly sewer invoice

    Standard monthly invoice based on the town's own flow data, near the amount of the prior two months.

    as heard:fourteen thousand five hundred fifty four dollars and eight cents

  3. ▶ 1:12:27Invoice for engineering firm (Mead Talerman)

    Invoice for Sept 21 to Oct 20 was submitted for review.

    as heard:252 and 91 cents

  4. ▶ 1:14:32External grease trap cost for a new pizza restaurant at 88 Mass Ave

    Members said an external grease trap is pricey, with a guess at the cost, and a landlord and tenant matter.

    as heard:seventy five hundred bucks

  5. ▶ 1:13:10Third-party billing tool agreement

    The billing tool agreement was sent out and the town is waiting to hear back.

  6. ▶ 1:15:34Grease trap non-compliance fees

    Three outstanding annual renewals were sent certified letters with the non-compliance fee.

  7. ▶ 1:11:45Generator maintenance with new contractor

    The staff member is waiting on the contractor's W-9 and proposal to set up the generator maintenance.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 28:39Jack to prepare responses to the commission's list of questions by the end of the week.
  • ▶ 56:17The maintenance plan will return on future agendas and a workshop is wanted once the new DPW director starts, about two weeks out.
  • ▶ 1:05:26The commission will wait for the new DPW director before the plan is discussed again.
  • ▶ 1:08:32For 384 Mass Ave, the chair held that no delay is needed and a copy of the state drawing is wanted for the files.
  • ▶ 1:21:16Next meetings set for November 10 and November 17, with November 24 possible; copies of the plan are available at the DPW.
  • ▶ 1:23:09Mr. Luck's marked-up maintenance plan will be sent to Barb to be entered into the record and distributed.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Maintenance Plan (draft, prepared with Wright Pierce)
  • Wright Pierce pump station study
  • Parts list (put together by Al)
  • Billing tool agreement (sent to Woodard & Curran)
  • Engineered drawing (384 Mass Ave Extension)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 11:46the maintenance plandraft policy or bylaw, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Maintenance Plan (draft, prepared with Wright Pierce)”)
  • ▶ 13:29Pierce pump station evaluationreport· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Wright Pierce pump station study”)
  • ▶ 31:45February 21st or 22nd track change documentdraft policy or bylaw, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:00:45the peer review (Bright's Farm)report, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:02:08minutes of 10/13prior minutes, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:13:10billing tool agreementcontract or agreement, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Billing tool agreement (sent to Woodard & Curran)”)

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 3:06Chair asked for public comment; none offered.
  2. ▶ 1:19:36Chair asked again for public comment at close; none offered.
  3. ▶ 1:22:26A member asked, as public comment, that his marked-up copy of the maintenance plan be entered into the record and distributed to the commission.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:12Roll call, remote meeting notice, announcementsinformational · 2:54 long
  2. ▶ 4:48Introduction of new O&M contractor; pump station condition, obsolete controls, runtime datainformational · 12:29 long · water sewer, contracts and unions
  3. ▶ 18:03Farewell to retiring DPW director Jackinformational · 10:16 long · personnel
  4. ▶ 28:19Sewer system maintenance plan: history, debate, and votevoted, passed 4-1 · 32:05 long · water sewer, policy, contracts and unions
  5. ▶ 1:00:24Bright's Farm peer review updateinformational · 1:44 long · planning and zoning, water sewer
  6. ▶ 1:02:08Minutes of 10/13voted, count not clear · 1:08 long
  7. ▶ 1:03:16384 Mass Ave connection and state drawing approvalagreed to proceed contingent on state approval · 8:29 long · water sewer, planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:11:45Generator maintenance, invoices, third-party billing, 88 Mass Ave change of use, grease trap program, meter import projectinformational · 6:51 long · water sewer, fees, technology
  9. ▶ 1:18:55Future agenda items, public comment, upcoming meetings, adjournmentadjourned · 5:02 long · public comment

What the captions could not carry

  • Roll-call votes on the minutes of 10/13 and on adjournment are not fully captured.
  • Captions are garbled in places, including names, section references and some of the 384 Mass Ave exchange.
  • Which member made the maintenance plan motion: heard as Mike, but the motion wording is garbled.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 28:19Sewer maintenance fundingWhat does the sewer maintenance plan and the new operations contract cost, and how is it funded?already answered: topic:sewer-enterprise-finances

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