What was said

Sewer Commission, March 30, 2021

the recording · 1:31 long, about 11,311 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 33:01The commission heard a developer's engineer ask to bring the back land at 5 Chestnut Street into the sewer service area; no vote was taken and the staff engineer will review capacity.
  2. ▶ 40:15The Chestnut Street item was set to return on the April 13 agenda.
  3. ▶ 51:36The commission voted to make no adjustment to the sewer bill for a toilet leak at 183 Whalen Road; the vote tally was not audible.
  4. ▶ 1:03:58A flat-charge hardship request from a well customer led to a plan to put a new well-customer rate policy on the next agenda.
  5. ▶ 1:10:20Members re-voted a corrected Q1 FY21 commitment, approved the Q3 commitment and the prior minutes, and set the next meetings for April 13 and April 27.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Bringing more land into the sewer service area can change how much of the system's capacity is committed, which is why the capacity review comes before the May 1 Town Meeting petition.
  • Well customers pay a flat quarterly charge, and a new policy could change what they pay compared with metered customers.
  • The commission noted it has had to borrow from retained earnings, so billing decisions and grant efforts bear on sewer rates.

Watch next

  • April 13 meeting: the Chestnut Street expansion returns with the staff engineer's capacity review, and a well-customer policy may be on the agenda.
  • May 1 Town Meeting: the petition to extend the sewer service area at 5 Chestnut Street.

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Present: Dave McDonald (chair); Brett Ramsen (member); Kyle Luck (member); John Reynolds (member); Rob Oliver (member); Bob (business manager) (business manager); Barb (staff); Jane (staff); Jamie Rowe (presenter); Rick Blanchflower (presenter). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 51:36Make no adjustment to the sewer bill for the 183 Whalen Road toilet leak.not audible
  2. ▶ 1:10:20Re-vote to approve the corrected Q1 FY21 commitment amount.not audible
  3. ▶ 1:10:40Approve the Q3 commitment.not audible

And 2 procedural: accept the minutes of the 3/9/21 meeting. (▶ 1:11:35); adjourn. (▶ 1:31:00).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 8 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 5 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsWhalen/Whalom Road toilet-leak bill: vote▶ 51:36

    recording Make no adjustment to the sewer bill for the 183 Whalen Road toilet leak. — not audible

    town’s minutes “barb received a request from the residents to get some forgiveness on the large bill, which was due to a toilet leak”

    Ours records a vote of no adjustment; the official minutes record only the request and no vote or outcome. Check the video near t=3096 and ask the town whether a vote was taken.

  2. differsFollow-up on Chestnut Street capacity▶ 33:01

    recording Staff engineer to work with the petitioner's engineer on capacity for the Chestnut Street expansion; no vote taken.

    town’s minutes “jamie said he will discuss the issue with rob (dpw director).”

    The two name different follow-up actions and different people; check the video near t=1981.

  3. differsFitchburg sewer ordinance follow-up▶ 1:08:13

    recording Chair and another member to schedule a visit to Fitchburg about the sewer ordinance by about April 9.

    town’s minutes “brett and dave will be meeting with barb to discuss the changes.”

    Ours has a visit to Fitchburg by about April 9; the official has Brett and Dave meeting with Barb about changes. Check the video near t=4093.

  4. differsElizabeth Street violation follow-up▶ 1:26:09

    recording Staff to send members the legal enforcement steps and report where the Elizabeth Street violation stands.

    town’s minutes “he will be reaching out to contractors that pat recommended, to get some quotes for following the recommendations”

    The records describe different actions (enforcement steps vs contractor quotes); possibly different parts of one discussion. Check near t=5169.

  5. differsAttendee role: Rob

    recording Rob Oliver (member)

    town’s minutes “jamie said he will discuss the issue with rob (dpw director).”

    Ours lists Rob as a commission member; the official minutes call him the DPW Director and he does not vote. Check roster and video.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Fitchburg invoice amount:Fitchburg invoice: 17708.48→$17,708.48▶ 1:14:27
  • Attendee: Kyle Luck vs Carl L.:Kyle Luck (member)→Carl L.
  • Attendee: Jamie Rowe vs Rheault:Jamie Rowe (presenter)→Jamie Rheault
  • Attendee: Bob vs Barb, business manager:Bob (business manager)→Barb
In one record only: 6 from the recording, 2 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Toilet-leak bill figures: 775, 7300, 923.45, 107, 816.45 ▶ 42:20
  • Recording only — Well customer count and volume: 1833 cubic feet, eight well customers ▶ 52:45
  • Recording only — Cost of treatment paid to Leominster: Cost of treatment paid to Leominster: 518, 334.31 ▶ 47:54
  • Recording only — Federal funds and grants figure: Federal funds and grants for sewer capital work: a trillion dollars ▶ 1:26:29
  • Recording only — Reaching out to Leominster about grants: Plan to reach out to Leominster about grants and the mayor. ▶ 1:27:56
  • Recording only — Next meeting dates: Next meetings April 13 and April 27 at 5 pm, remote. ▶ 1:31:00
  • Town’s minutes only — Updated Maintenance Plan: “barb will be sending out an updated version for review.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public comment request for flows: “public comment - carl asked barb to send the flows for the algorithm.”

Compared 2026-10-27. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 42:20Toilet-leak credit request, 183 Whalen Road

    Members worked out the possible credit from the current rate against the customer's usual minimum quarterly bill. They noted the leaked water still reached the treatment system.

    as heard:7757300923.45107816.45

  2. ▶ 47:54Cost of treatment paid to Leominster

    Staff gave the per-100-cubic-feet cost the town pays Leominster to compare against what customers are charged.

    as heard:518334.31

  3. ▶ 52:45Flat well-customer charge

    Well customers pay a flat quarterly charge set from old averages, while the metered minimum is much lower. A 90-year-old customer asked to pay the minimum instead.

    as heard:231.871833 cubic feet107eight well customers

  4. ▶ 57:20Cost of metering a well

    Members estimated a well meter, plumber and permit would cost several hundred dollars to over a thousand, paying back within about a year.

    as heard:200five hundred dollarsover a thousand

  5. ▶ 1:09:38Q1 FY21 commitment correction

    The commitment was mistyped and raised by ten thousand, then re-voted.

    as heard:222,461.81ten thousand

  6. ▶ 1:10:40Q3 commitment

    The Q3 commitment was presented for approval.

    as heard:247,910.73

  7. ▶ 1:14:27Fitchburg invoice

    The business manager said the latest invoice from Fitchburg would be paid; it is based on flow numbers the town provides.

    as heard:17708.48

  8. ▶ 1:18:50Inflow from one homeowner's lateral

    A member said a single lateral was sending a large daily inflow, costing the system thousands of dollars a year.

    as heard:1400 gallons a daythree to five thousand dollars a year

  9. ▶ 47:11Retained earnings

    A member noted the commission has had to borrow from retained earnings for this year and the coming year.

  10. ▶ 1:26:29Federal funds and grants for sewer capital work

    The chair asked to put federal money for capital work on a future agenda and to approach Leominster about grants.

    as heard:a trillion dollars

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 33:01Staff engineer to work with the petitioner's engineer on capacity for the Chestnut Street expansion; no vote taken.
  • ▶ 40:15Chestnut Street item to return on the April 13 agenda.
  • ▶ 1:03:58A new well-customer rate policy will go on the next agenda, aiming for the next quarter; the customer is to be told it is under review.
  • ▶ 1:07:10Staff to tell the well customer the commission is considering a policy change.
  • ▶ 1:08:13Chair and another member to schedule a visit to Fitchburg about the sewer ordinance by about April 9.
  • ▶ 1:26:09Staff to send members the legal enforcement steps and report where the Elizabeth Street violation stands.
  • ▶ 1:27:56Plan to reach out to Leominster about grants and the mayor.
  • ▶ 1:31:00Next meetings April 13 and April 27 at 5 pm, remote.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed handouts::

  • Sewer Regulations Development Policy (Article II-2(I) of the Sewer Use Regulations)

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Comprehensive Wastewater Master Plan
  • Sewer Commission's Regulations on development
  • Maintenance Plan (updated version)
  • Fitchburg Sewer Use Ordinance changes
  • Weston & Sampson l/l study (inflow and infiltration study)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 6:46sewer service area map dated 5 5 2018plan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 9:34concept plan of 10 lots with 4 units eachplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 7:26citizen's petition for the town warrantwarrant article· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 37:28sewer commission development policydraft policy or bylaw, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Sewer Commission's Regulations on development”)
  • ▶ 1:11:35minutes of 3/9/21prior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:15:27I&I study report with recommendationsreport· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:25:27legal's six-step enforcement processmemo· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Sewer Regulations Development Policy (Article II-2(I) of the Sewer Use Regulations).

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 3:12Chair asked for public comment at the start; none was heard.
  2. ▶ 32:41Chair asked for public comment on the Chestnut Street item; no hands were raised.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:05Opening, roll call, remote meeting rules, announcementsinformational · 3:07 long · elections
  2. ▶ 3:345 Chestnut Street sewer service area expansionreferred · 37:02 long · water sewer, planning and zoning, housing
  3. ▶ 40:56183 Whalen Road toilet-leak adjustmentvoted · 11:04 long · fees, water sewer
  4. ▶ 52:2519 Whalen Road well customer flat charge and policyreferred · 15:05 long · fees, policy, water sewer
  5. ▶ 1:07:52Fitchburg sewer ordinance meeting schedulinginformational · 1:08 long · water sewer
  6. ▶ 1:09:38Commitment approvalsvoted · 2:02 long · water sewer, budget
  7. ▶ 1:11:35Minutesvoted · 0:35 long
  8. ▶ 1:12:10Business manager report: FinCom, maintenance plan, Fitchburg invoice, Elizabeth Street, Esposito, grantsinformational · 16:40 long · water sewer, grants, budget
  9. ▶ 1:28:58Board comments, meeting time, adjournmentvoted · 2:43 long · policy

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote counts for all motions; only some members' ayes are partly captioned.
  • Who voted for or against the no-adjustment motion on 183 Whalen Road.
  • Several figures in the rate and credit calculations are garbled.
  • The exact current sewer service area boundary and map date.
  • Stretch around 5338 is partly garbled.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 3:34Sewer service area expansionWhat would adding the back land at Chestnut Street to the sewer service area mean for capacity and for town policy?
  • ▶ 52:45Sewer fee scheduleHow are sewer minimum, flat well and metered charges set, and how do they compare with what Leominster charges the town?
  • ▶ 1:16:07Sewer infiltration costsWhat does inflow and infiltration cost the commission each year, and what would fixing Elizabeth Street cost?
  • ▶ 47:11Sewer retained earningsHow much has the sewer enterprise drawn from retained earnings and what is the quarterly commitment trend?

These are ours, and they are not the record

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What changed

Version 15 — updated September 20, 2026