What was said

Sewer Commission, April 13, 2021

the recording · 1:41 long, about 12,831 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 54:52The Sewer Commission put off any recommendation on extending sewer service to 5 Chestnut Street until a special meeting on April 29, to get town counsel's opinion.
  2. ▶ 53:47Members first moved to leave the 5 Chestnut Street article to Town Meeting, then voted to wait for counsel; the outcome of both votes was not audible.
  3. ▶ 31:40A resident said approving the extension would be a special exemption from the commission's own frontage-based regulations, and asked that counsel address it.
  4. ▶ 1:08:43A motion to approve control panel work at the Electric Ave pump station, contingent on staff sign-off, was made; the outcome was not audible.
  5. ▶ 1:16:41The Fitchburg ordinance draft will go to town counsel before it is sent to Fitchburg, and staff were asked to draft a well policy with a meter option.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Whether the sewer district grows to cover a roughly 40-unit development on Chestnut Street bears on sewer capacity and on whether the commission's frontage rule applies as written, and Town Meeting voters may be asked to decide it.
  • Pump station repairs and possible overruns in Fitchburg charges are costs the sewer system must cover, so they can affect what ratepayers are billed.

Watch next

  • Special Sewer Commission meeting on April 29, replacing April 27, for town counsel's opinion on 5 Chestnut Street.
  • Town counsel's review of the Fitchburg ordinance draft before it goes to Fitchburg.

budgetcapitallegalplanning and zoningpublic commentroads and dpwtown meetingwarrant articlewater sewer

Present: dave mcdonald (chair); mike (member); brett ramsen (member); carlock (member); john (reynolds) (member); barbara (bob) (business manager); rob oliver (DPW supervisor (not attending)); jamie (presenter (applicant's representative)); jane (staff). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 53:26Defer the recommendation on the 5 Chestnut Street article until Town Meeting.not audible
  2. ▶ 53:47Defer the 5 Chestnut Street item until town counsel has been consulted, later amended to a meeting on April 29.not audible
  3. ▶ 1:08:43Approve the control panel work for the Electric Ave station contingent on approval by Mike and Rob.not audible

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of march 30. (▶ 1:28:24); adjourn. (▶ 1:40:51).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 8 agree, 3 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 4 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsVote to defer 5 Chestnut Street to Town Meeting▶ 53:26

    recording Defer the recommendation on the 5 Chestnut Street article until Town Meeting.

    town’s minutes —

    Our minutes record a separate deferral to Town Meeting; the official minutes record only the amended motion to 4/29. Check the recording near t=3206 for whether this was a motion, a vote or a discussion point that was replaced.

  2. differsVote to defer 5 Chestnut Street until town counsel consulted (tally)▶ 53:47

    recording Defer the 5 Chestnut Street item until town counsel has been consulted, later amended to a meeting on April 29. — not audible

    town’s minutes “amended motion: to defer decision to 4/29, until town counsel has had an opportunity to be consulted. roll call vote: mike-aye, john-aye, brett-aye, carl-aye and dave-no.”

    The motion matches, but our minutes have no tally while the official minutes show a 4-1 roll call with Dave voting no. Check the recording to confirm the tally.

  3. differsWell policy▶ 1:00:47

    recording The business manager was asked to work with the DPW supervisor on a well policy, with a meter option on the well line.

    town’s minutes “dave suggested putting this on the back burner until rob can attend.”

    Ours describes a task assigned to the business manager; the official minutes describe the item being deferred until the DPW director can attend. Check the recording near t=3647.

  4. differsWho is copied on meeting packets▶ 1:36:21

    recording The business manager was asked to copy a staff member on future meeting packets.

    town’s minutes “dave asked barb to cc heather (town manager) on the meeting package email.”

    Same request, but the person differs: ours says a staff member (possibly Jane, the clerk), the official minutes say Heather, the Town Manager. Check the recording near t=5781.

3 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Commissioner Carl:carlock (member)→Carl
  • DPW supervisor name:rob oliver (DPW supervisor (not attending))→Rob Oliva
  • Business manager name:barbara (bob) (business manager)→Barb
In one record only: 3 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — FY21 year-to-date budget and Leominster bill figures: FY21 year-to-date budget and Leominster sewer bill: 362 000, 365 000, 93 percent, 99.39, a hundred and twelve percent ▶ 1:29:04
  • Recording only — Fitchburg possible overrun: Fitchburg possible overrun: thirty one thousand dollars ▶ 1:32:11
  • Recording only — Leominster IMA capacity: Leominster IMA capacity and reserved capacity: 500 000 gallons per day, 158 000, 95 000 ▶ 18:04
  • Town’s minutes only — Elizabeth St. I/I charges and lining cost: “the w&s report estimated the cost to line the service to be $15,000 to $18,000 which would result in a 8 to 10 year return on”
  • Town’s minutes only — Commissioners to review sewer policy before 4/29: “suggested all commissioners review the sewer policy so they can have an answer on 4/29.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Fitchburg costs at 83% of full year: “confirmed that the fitchburg costs are 83% of full year.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public commenters and Park Commission: “paula bertram said she understands the commission cannot control development, but their bylaws clearly state”

Compared 2026-10-26. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:03:14Control panel replacement at Electric Ave pump station

    A replacement panel was estimated at a figure the captions render as five thousand dollars for the first station, to be followed by up to seven stations. A refurbished part alternative was also mentioned.

    as heard:five thousand dollars1500over five thousand

  2. ▶ 1:29:04FY21 year-to-date budget and Leominster sewer bill

    The business manager said expenses looked high only because the full Leominster year was entered. A formula error showed over budget when the line was actually slightly under.

    as heard:362 000365 00093 percent99.39a hundred and twelve percent

  3. ▶ 1:32:11Fitchburg possible overrun

    A member estimated a possible overrun in the Fitchburg charges if the current rate continued.

    as heard:thirty one thousand dollars

  4. ▶ 1:32:32Xylem pump for Meadow Woods

    The pump invoice was flagged for approval before payment because it was a larger amount.

    as heard:seventeen thousand twelve dollars and thirty nine cents

  5. ▶ 18:04Leominster IMA capacity and reserved capacity

    Leominster's agreement allows a daily flow with the last year's average well below it. The reserve for unconnected betterments was also described.

    as heard:500 000 gallons per day158 00095 000

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 54:52The 5 Chestnut Street discussion was moved to a special meeting on April 29, replacing April 27, to obtain town counsel's opinion.
  • ▶ 1:00:47The business manager was asked to work with the DPW supervisor on a well policy, with a meter option on the well line.
  • ▶ 1:16:41The Fitchburg ordinance draft will go to town counsel before being sent to Fitchburg.
  • ▶ 1:36:21The business manager was asked to copy a staff member on future meeting packets.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed handouts:

  • Comments from Rob Oliva re. 5 Chestnut St.
  • Well Policy handout

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Email from Barbara Lefebvre to Rob Oliva, 12 April 2021
  • Comprehensive Wastewater Master Plan
  • Leominster intermunicipal agreement (IMA)
  • Test pit data submitted for 5 Chestnut St.
  • 2018 letter from Town Counsel to the Commissioners
  • W&S I/l Report (Elizabeth St.)
  • Empey control panel proposal
  • Sewer regulations (Allocation of capacity for change or expansion of use)
  • Fitchburg Chapter 147 Sewer Use Ordinance (tracked and clean copies of proposed changes)
  • Town bylaws (150 ft frontage)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 1:15:19track copy and clean copy of the Fitchburg ordinancedraft policy or bylaw, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Fitchburg Chapter 147 Sewer Use Ordinance (tracked and clean copies of proposed changes)”)
  • ▶ 1:02:10invoice or estimate from the control panel vendorother· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Empey control panel proposal”)
  • ▶ 1:11:51letter from council 2018letter or email· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“2018 letter from Town Counsel to the Commissioners”)
  • ▶ 1:29:04year-to-date budget on fy21budget document, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 14:15DPW supervisor's email on test pitsletter or email· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Comments from Rob Oliva re. 5 Chestnut St.; Well Policy handout.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 2:56A resident opposed extending the sewer district to all of 5 Chestnut Street, citing the wastewater plan, the 330 gallons per day per 50 feet of frontage rule, and capacity questions. — a speaker, resident
  2. ▶ 31:40The same resident said approval would be a special exemption from the commission's own regulations, and that 152 feet of frontage allows only three units. — a speaker, resident
  3. ▶ 56:55The resident asked that town counsel be asked whether the parcel would get the proposed flow or only the frontage-based allowance. — a speaker, resident
  4. ▶ 1:36:42A resident announced Earth Day week cleanup projects, with DPW supplying bags and sign-up on the MyRec page. — 56 whiting street, as heard

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:07Opening, roll call and remote-meeting noticeinformational · 2:49 long
  2. ▶ 2:56Public comment on 5 Chestnut Streetinformational · 4:49 long · public comment, water sewer, planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 7:455 Chestnut Street sewer district extensiondeferred to April 29 for counsel · 50:35 long · water sewer, planning and zoning, warrant article
  4. ▶ 58:19Well policy reviewreferred for further work · 3:51 long · water sewer, fees
  5. ▶ 1:02:10Pump station control panelmotion made, outcome not audible · 9:41 long · capital, water sewer
  6. ▶ 1:11:51Violations letters, maintenance plan and federal aidinformational · 3:28 long · legal, water sewer
  7. ▶ 1:15:19Fitchburg ordinance draft reviewto counsel · 13:05 long · policy, legal
  8. ▶ 1:28:24Minutes and business manager reportinformational · 8:16 long · budget, water sewer
  9. ▶ 1:36:40Public announcements, future meetings, adjournmentadjourned · 4:55 long · public comment

What the captions could not carry

  • Roll-call vote results on the deferral motion and the control panel motion were not clearly captioned.
  • Whether the April 29 amendment passed was not stated in the captions.
  • Several figures (unit counts, flows) were inconsistent in the captions.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 18:04Sewer service area expansionWhat capacity does the sewer system have, and what would extending the district to 5 Chestnut Street add?already answered: thread:sewer-pump-procurement
  • ▶ 1:29:04Sewer enterprise financesHow is the sewer enterprise tracking against its FY21 budget, including Leominster and Fitchburg charges?
  • ▶ 20:50Sewer infiltration costsHow would inflow and infiltration removal be done and paid for?

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