What was said
Sewer Commission, May 30, 2023
the recording · 1:43 long, about 11,372 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/sewer-commission/2023.json
The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 31:42The commission voted to send its ARPA funding request, covering manhole repairs and pump station work, to the Select Board for review.
- ▶ 59:14After a hearing with the owner's representative, the commission voted to reduce the A&G Crossroads non-compliance fine, payable immediately and in full.
- ▶ 1:30:41The commission voted to change the assistant business manager post from a benefited 24-hour job to 20 hours or less.
- ▶ 1:13:09Members gave a no-vote green light for a letter supporting removal of the testing component from the draft NPDES permit.
- ▶ 1:11:22Leominster IMA negotiations were referred to a member meeting with town counsel on whether they can be discussed in executive session.
Why it matters — our reading
- The ARPA request, if the Select Board takes it up, would put federal pandemic-relief money toward sewer repairs that would otherwise fall on sewer rates.
- The position change touches the sewer department's payroll and benefits costs, and the minutes say it requires collective bargaining.
- The IMA negotiations with Leominster and the draft permit's testing component both bear on future treatment costs and permit terms, though no figures were settled here.
Watch next
- Tuesday June 6, 7:30-8:30: the ARPA presentation to the Select Board.
- June 5: the deadline for comments on the draft NPDES permit.
budgetcapitalcontracts and unionsfeesgrantshiringlegalpersonneltown departmentswater sewer
Present: John Reynolds (chair); Dave McDonald (member); Mike nalt / Mike Nault (member); Brett Ramsden (member, remote); Bill Bernard (staff (DPW director)); Paula Bertram (business manager); Jane rainley (staff); Mr Brambilla / Mr rumbia (presenter (A&G Crossroads representative), remote); Mike Mackin (visitor interested in joining, remote). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 31:42Send the ARPA proposal to the Select Board as soon as possible for review — moved by unnamed member, as heardpassed (roll call, approved to forward)
- ▶ 59:14Reduce the A&G Crossroads non-compliance fine to 750 from 2525, paid immediately and in full — moved by Dave McDonald, as heardpassed
- ▶ 1:30:41Change assistant business manager position from 24 hours benefited to 20 hours or less — moved by unnamed member, as heardpassed (roll call)
And 3 procedural: approve minutes from 4/11 through 4/30 (as heard '4 11 till 8 30') (▶ 5:19); approve minutes of may 9 (▶ 6:01); adjourn the meeting (▶ 1:42:41).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 17 agree, 5 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.
recording Change assistant business manager position from 24 hours benefited to 20 hours or less — passed (roll call)
town’s minutes “to change the hours for the assistant business manager position from 24 hours benefited to under 20 hours”
"20 hours or less" and "under 20 hours" differ at exactly 20 hours, which may matter for benefit eligibility. Check the recording near t=5441 for the exact wording, and note that the official record doesn't mention a roll call.
recording Dave McDonald to meet with town counsel about whether IMA negotiations can be discussed in executive session; negotiations to proceed via a non-quorum group.
town’s minutes “the commission gave dave permission to talk to town counsel during open hours on 6/21.”
The two records give different purposes for the conversation. Ours says IMA negotiations and executive session, while the town's gives only permission and a 6/21 open-hours date. Check the recording near t=4282.
5 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
- Company name: A&G vs A&D Crossroads:A&G Crossroads→A&D Crossroads▶ 59:14
- Attendee: Dave McDonald:Dave McDonald (member)→Dave MacDonald
- Attendee: Mike Nault:Mike nalt / Mike Nault (member)→Mike Nault
- Attendee: Jane Ranley:Jane rainley (staff)→Jane Ranley
- Attendee: Mr. Brambila of A&D Crossroads:Mr Brambilla / Mr rumbia (presenter (A&G Crossroads representative))→Mr. Brambila
In one record only: 2 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — ARPA presentation: lining manholes: Add to the ARPA presentation that funds may be used to eliminate/line manholes where possible ▶ 26:52
- Recording only — Joint session with Leominster: idea of a joint session with Leominster by Zoom was agreed ▶ 1:21:34
- Town’s minutes only — Maps for ARPA presentation: “paula will also include 5 maps of the highlighted manholes.”
- Town’s minutes only — Wind River pump-out report: “paula asked mr. brambila to have wind river send the correctly filled-out report to the office within a week in order to be compliant.”
- Town’s minutes only — Jetting truck rental for two weeks: “he will rent the truck for 2 weeks and start jetting lines.”
- Town’s minutes only — Conrad's grease trap report: “all reports are in except conrad's and paula will follow up with them.”
Compared 2026-10-13. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 9:29ARPA request: manholes
Business manager said the request is for manhole repairs in the Electric Ave, Mass Ave and other areas, with itemized costs from 2015 inflated by an escalator.
as heard:200 000195 320 dollars47 42095 41026 percent168 manholds84 man goals
- ▶ 12:14ARPA request: pump stations
A second component requests funding for pump replacements, panel upgrades, motor shafts and generators at several stations.
as heard:300 000305 thousand dollars
- ▶ 19:58A&G Crossroads non-compliance fine
Fee stood at the initial non-compliance fee plus daily fines for missing pump-out reports; the commission discussed reducing it.
as heard:2 525 dollars25 per daytwo thousand four hundred and seventy five dollars50 initial non-compliance fee
- ▶ 56:08Reduced fine amount
Members settled around an amount meant to cover the manager's staff time and send a message.
as heard:750 bucksseven or eight hundred dollars
- ▶ 1:15:13FY capital plan
Estimated current-year capital expenditures for cranes, block heaters, panels and a dialer are covered by the existing budget; SCADA at two stations was floated for next year.
as heard:45 237.80sixteen thousand dollars each
- ▶ 1:32:27Jetting cost / truck rental
Budget adds money for jetting; DPW director found renting a jetter truck far cheaper than hiring a contractor, though labor and consultant hours add cost.
as heard:28 0004 800 for the week2500 and 2800 a dayforty eight hundred dollars
- ▶ 1:23:22Assistant business manager position
Position reduced from a benefited 24-hour post to under 20 hours non-benefited; change requires collective bargaining.
as heard:24 hours20 and minus
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 26:52Add to the ARPA presentation that funds may be used to eliminate/line manholes where possible; presentation set for Tuesday June 6, 7:30-8:30.
- ▶ 1:13:09Commission gave a green light (no vote) for the manager to draft a letter supporting removal of the testing component from the draft NPDES permit, due June 5.
- ▶ 1:11:22Dave McDonald to meet with town counsel about whether IMA negotiations can be discussed in executive session; negotiations to proceed via a non-quorum group.
- ▶ 1:22:16Manager to ask to be involved in the Select Board's grant application for the Leominster-Shirley corridor development; members voiced support.
- ▶ 1:21:34Manager to contact Jake Fleming for manhole lining information; idea of a joint session with Leominster by Zoom was agreed.
Public comment
- ▶ 3:35No public comment at the opening; announcements were thanks to Jane for working the polls and introduction of visitor Mike Mackin.
- ▶ 1:39:51Visitor Mike Mackin said he enjoyed the discussions and is interested in infrastructure and the environment; the chair said appointment would require the Select Board.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- water sewer73 min · 74%
- legal30 min · 30%
- fees29 min · 29%
- capital27 min · 27%
- grants19 min · 20%
- contracts and unions14 min · 14%
- hiring8 min · 8%
- staffing8 min · 8%
- budget7 min · 7%
- facilities4 min · 4%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:03Opening, pledge, roll call, announcementsinformational · 4:57 long
- ▶ 4:58Approval of prior minutesvoted · 2:07 long
- ▶ 7:05ARPA funding update and request detailsinformational · 11:29 long · grants, capital, water sewer
- ▶ 18:34A&G Crossroads hearing begins; audio troubledeferred while audio fixed · 6:11 long · fees, water sewer
- ▶ 24:45Vote to forward ARPA package to Select Board; manhole elimination ideavoted · 7:55 long · grants, capital, water sewer
- ▶ 36:25Woodard & Curran I&I review summaryinformational · 4:17 long · water sewer, facilities
- ▶ 40:42A&G Crossroads non-compliance hearing and fine reductionvoted · 22:24 long · fees, legal, water sewer
- ▶ 1:03:06I&I report follow-up and pump station reportsinformational · 3:04 long · water sewer
- ▶ 1:06:10IMA negotiations with Leominsterreferred to member meeting with counsel · 5:57 long · contracts and unions, legal
- ▶ 1:12:07Draft NPDES permit comment lettergreen light · 1:53 long · legal, water sewer
- ▶ 1:14:12Capital planning and SCADAinformational · 7:48 long · capital, water sewer
- ▶ 1:22:00Leominster-Shirley corridor developmentinformational · 1:20 long · economic development, water sewer
- ▶ 1:23:22Assistant business manager positionvoted · 8:25 long · hiring, staffing, contracts and unions
- ▶ 1:31:47Business manager report: budget, jetting, maintenance, grease trap complianceinformational · 6:59 long · budget, water sewer
- ▶ 1:38:46Manager vacation scheduleinformational · 1:05 long · personnel
- ▶ 1:39:51Public comment, congratulations, adjournmentadjourned · 3:33 long · public comment
What the captions could not carry
- Exact vote counts for several roll calls were not stated; names were read but results often not itemized.
- Minutes date range was heard as '4 11 till 8 30', which appears garbled.
- Several dollar figures (manhole totals, 750/2525) are caption-rendered and unreliable.
- Audio from the A&G Crossroads representative was inaudible for roughly five minutes at the start of the hearing.
- The roll call for the ARPA forward vote and the assistant manager vote did not clearly include every member.
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