What was said

Sewer Commission, September 26, 2023

the recording · 1:22 long, about 9,537 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

▶ 20:46The Commission extended the reboot restaurant's grease interceptor permit on pumping invoices as evidence, in a roll-call vote with four yes votes heard.
▶ 1:00:44The Commission took no vote on an external grease trap for Bad Larry's and did not revoke its permit; the business manager will write the landlord and owner.
▶ 59:16Bad Larry's may keep operating until the next meeting, and the owner and landlord are invited to the Oct 10 meeting.
▶ 1:07:50The Commission appointed the business manager as enforcing agent for non-criminal disposition of delinquent sewer bills, in a roll call with three yes votes.
▶ 1:05:41The business manager reported that first-quarter sewer bills have a high delinquency rate and that recommended jetting was not being met.

Why it matters — our reading

Grease clogs in the sewer line are costly to clear and fall on a tight Sewer Commission budget, so the unsettled question of who pays for an external trap at Bad Larry's bears on sewer costs.
Ticketing delinquent sewer bills is now possible, which affects residents with unpaid accounts and the revenue that funds the system.

Watch next

Oct 10 Sewer Commission meeting: the Bad Larry's permit and external trap are expected back, with the owner and landlord invited.
The business manager's letter to the landlord and owner, and the missing pumping reports for the reboot restaurant, due by the next cycle.

contracts and unions fees hiring legal personnel policy public comment town departments water sewer

Present: John Reynolds (chair); Brett Ramon (member); Mike n (Mike KN) (member); Mike Mackin (member); Paula Bertram (business manager); Bill (Bernard) (DPW director / staff); Jane rley (staff). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

▶ 20:46Extend/issue the reboot restaurant's permit on the invoices as evidence of pumping, expecting a full report next cycle; amended to condition issuance on receipt of invoices — moved by Mike (Commissioner), as heardpassed (roll call, four yes votes heard)
▶ 1:07:50Appoint Ms. Bertram as enforcing agent for non-criminal disposition — moved by Mike, as heardpassed (roll call, three yes)

And 2 procedural: approve minutes of 9/12 (▶ 1:02:50); adjourn (▶ 1:21:29).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 9 agree, 3 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

differsWho drafts or sends the letter to the landlord▶ 1:00:44
recording the business manager will draft a letter stressing the seriousness to the landlord and owner, inviting them to the Oct 10 meeting.
town’s minutes “paula will send a draft to bill and john.”
Ours has the letter going to the landlord and owner. The official minutes have Paula sending a draft to Bill and John, and Alan contacting his landlord. Check the recording for who contacts the landlord.
differsCTE invitation: who is invited and to what▶ 1:10:44
recording Business manager to invite the new CTE technician and the CTE business manager to a commission meeting.
town’s minutes “paula will also ask wade (cte business manager) to attend the meeting.”
Ours also invites a new CTE technician, which the official minutes do not mention. Check the recording for whether the technician was named.

3 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve

Vice-chair name:Brett Ramon (member)→Brett Ramsden▶ 0:00
Clerk name:Mike n (Mike KN) (member)→Mike Nault▶ 0:00
Minutes clerk name:Jane rley (staff)→Jane Ranley▶ 0:00

In one record only: 4 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes

Recording only — Bad Larry's permit not revoked: Bad Larry's permit is not revoked and the establishment may continue operating until the next meeting. ▶ 59:16
Recording only — Staff to contact pumping company for missing reports: Staff to also contact the pumping company directly for the missing reports. ▶ 19:01
Recording only — Owner's cost figures for grease problems: Owner's costs for grease problems: 10 grand, $30,000, $2,000 ▶ 35:42
Recording only — Position classification scores: Position classification scores: 380, 495, 715, 655 ▶ 1:20:46
Town’s minutes only — Salary plan rating dispute 10 vs 7: “bill and paula have concerns about the rating given to her position as a 10 but it should be a 7, which is a higher level.”
Town’s minutes only — Absent member Dave MacDonald: “absent: dave macdonald”
Town’s minutes only — Appointment guests: Lagoy and Wernick: “alan said when he took over bad larry's, there was no functioning grease trap and the baffles were removed.”

Compared 2026-10-09. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

▶ 17:38Grease interceptor pumping cost
The restaurant owner said pumping the large tank is costly, making an early extra pumping a hardship.
as heard:$1,500
▶ 50:45Cost of clearing grease clog
A commissioner noted clearing the clog and the last jetting were very expensive for a tight Sewer Commission budget.
▶ 1:04:37Extra flow from Sept 11 storm
Extra flow charged by Leominster during the storm cost a little over a stated amount, included in the DPW's request.
as heard:just over $2,000
▶ 1:05:41Delinquent sewer bills
First-quarter bills have a high delinquency rate, with some unpaid for over a year; non-criminal disposition ticketing is being pursued.
as heard:21% delinquency rate
▶ 1:13:33Line jetting budget line
The business manager recommended increasing the jetting line item next year since recommended jetting was not being met.
as heard:three miles a year
▶ 1:20:46Position classification scores
Committee scores for the business manager and assistant positions were compared with staff's own ratings.
as heard:380495715655
▶ 35:42Owner's costs for grease problems
Bad Larry's owner cited sums spent on blockages and an external trap that would be the landlord's cost.
as heard:10 grand$30,000$2,000

Settled without a vote

▶ 1:00:44No vote on an external grease trap for Bad Larry's; the business manager will draft a letter stressing the seriousness to the landlord and owner, inviting them to the Oct 10 meeting.
▶ 59:16Bad Larry's permit is not revoked and the establishment may continue operating until the next meeting.
▶ 1:10:44Business manager to invite the new CTE technician and the CTE business manager to a commission meeting.
▶ 1:18:40Business manager position rating to remain on the agenda/report; Ms. Bertram to send the rating scale.
▶ 19:01Staff to also contact the pumping company directly for the missing reports.

Public comment

▶ 6:45Chair asked for public comment; none offered.
▶ 1:21:29Final public comment requested; none offered.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

water sewer65 min · 80%
policy55 min · 68%
legal43 min · 53%
personnel7 min · 9%
hiring7 min · 9%
contracts and unions5 min · 6%
fees4 min · 4%
roads and dpw1 min · 2%

The whole meeting, in order

▶ 0:03Audio and technical difficulties, call to order, roll callQuorum established · 6:57 long
▶ 7:06Reboot restaurant grease interceptor reports and permitvoted: permit extended on invoices · 15:54 long · water sewer, policy
▶ 23:12Bad Larry's grease trap permit renewal and external interceptorno vote; continued to Oct 10 · 39:18 long · water sewer, policy, legal
▶ 1:02:40Minutes of 9/12voted · 1:10 long
▶ 1:03:50Sept 11 storm damage and extra Leominster flow costinformational · 1:20 long · water sewer, roads and dpw
▶ 1:05:10Enforcing agent for non-criminal disposition of delinquent billsvoted · 3:30 long · fees, legal, water sewer
▶ 1:08:50Business manager report: new technician, alarms, jettinginformational · 5:10 long · contracts and unions, water sewer
▶ 1:14:14Position reclassification and assistant hiringinformational · 7:06 long · personnel, hiring
▶ 1:21:29Adjournmentvoted · 0:51 long

What the captions could not carry

Opening ~400 seconds were audio troubleshooting with little content.
Exact vote counts: roll calls heard as names with 'hi', so counts inferred loosely.
Name of the Bad Larry's owner and the second Mike's surname are garbled (Warick/Wernick, Mike n/KN).
Whether the chair returned for the minutes vote is unclear; he appears to roll-call but the chair left earlier for another meeting is attributed to a different member.

These are ours, and they are not the record

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