What was said
Stormwater Task Force, January 23, 2025
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The town published an agenda for this meeting. No minutes have been published; the recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.
The short version
- ▶ 33:01The Stormwater Task Force agreed to seek a short, money-free update article on the spring Town Meeting warrant; the warrant closes March 17th.
- ▶ 13:23Members reviewed draft stormwater utility fee estimates and found the residential figure higher than they had expected; no resolution was reached.
- ▶ 22:38Members said they will tell the consultant they do not want residential fees above the annual figure discussed.
- ▶ 14:49Members found the draft funding mix, built from residential fees, Chapter 90 and commercial fees, fell short of the target budget and the draft figures conflicted.
- ▶ 43:40Members agreed to hold off on detailed fee talks with town boards; the first message will be a short teaser without money details.
Why it matters — our reading
- A stormwater utility fee would be a new charge on property owners, and the draft shows residential, commercial and Chapter 90 shares that have not yet been settled.
- The permit requirements and the staffing built into the target budget are mechanisms that push the fee total up, so the figure residents are eventually asked to vote on may differ from what was discussed here.
- The task force plans to bring a no-dollar update to spring Town Meeting, so residents will hear about the utility before they see the numbers.
Watch next
- March 17th, when the spring Town Meeting warrant closes and the update article must be submitted.
- The next meeting, where members will review the CREATE reports and the fee spreadsheet.
budgetcapitalfeesgrantspublic commentroads and dpwstaffingtown departmentstown meetingwarrant articlewater sewer
Present: Bill (member; presented the CREATE tool report); Jenny (member, joined by Zoom, dropped off and rejoined, remote); Nick (consultant referred to as preparing the fee structure (not clearly present)); chair (unnamed) (chair). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
No substantive votes heard. 2 procedural.
The money
- ▶ 6:21Stormwater basin mapping
Members noted the mapping is partly done and more money is needed to finish it; the figure was clarified in conversation.
as heard:120k12020
- ▶ 13:23Stormwater utility residential fee
The draft fees were higher than the members expected, who had been thinking of a lower annual residential figure.
as heard:$60 a year$15 a quarter
- ▶ 14:49Utility revenue sources toward a target budget
Members discussed how residential fees, Chapter 90 and commercial fees would add up to the original target, noting the draft figures conflicted.
as heard:a millionquarter millionhalf a million350 from commercial400,000 coming from residential
- ▶ 16:54Chapter 90 contribution
A member said the Chapter 90 share was always assumed to be a set amount and was not adjusted for inflation.
as heard:250
- ▶ 19:22Fee math at single-family count
A quick calculation using the single-family count, the annual fee and Chapter 90 came up short of the target.
as heard:3,800 single family$60 a year250,000478,000
- ▶ 22:59Commercial and industrial fee estimate
The draft shows a small share of properties generating a set annual amount, with more to come; members found the per-business amount large.
as heard:93,000 per year93k1,100 commercial77508K per year
- ▶ 30:13Utility staffing built into the budget
Positions such as a GIS project engineer, admin and a heavy equipment operator would be paid from the enterprise fund and are built into the target budget.
as heard:a million
- ▶ 37:29Catch basin cleaning cost
A cost estimate was given for cleaning every catch basin in town using a contractor, with discussion of staff hours.
as heard:$300,0002,000 men hours
- ▶ 42:03Catch basin replacement under new permit
Members estimated the number and cost of replacing a percentage of catch basins per year under the new permit.
as heard:4%803,000300
- ▶ 46:06Chapter 90 optics
Members said residents have heard about a large Chapter 90 balance, so the plan to use it should be mentioned in the introduction.
as heard:$2 million
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 15:52A member agreed to put the fee figures in a spreadsheet and maintain it as the numbers change.
- ▶ 22:38Members will tell the consultant they do not want residential fees above the annual figure discussed.
- ▶ 33:01Members agreed to seek a short update article on the spring Town Meeting warrant; a member will write it up, and the warrant closes March 17th.
- ▶ 43:40Hold off on detailed fee discussion with town boards; the first communication will be a short teaser without money details.
- ▶ 7:05Bill will email the CREATE reports to members; they will review and discuss at the next meeting.
Public comment
- ▶ 0:23A member of the public on Zoom said they were just sitting in and watching, with no comment.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- water sewer41 min · 79%
- fees22 min · 41%
- budget19 min · 36%
- grants10 min · 19%
- roads and dpw8 min · 15%
- staffing8 min · 15%
- town meeting7 min · 14%
- warrant article4 min · 8%
- facilities2 min · 4%
- public comment1 min · 1%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:02Call to order and public commentinformational · 0:42 long · public comment
- ▶ 0:44CREATE climate resilience tool reportinformational; members to review · 10:03 long · water sewer, grants
- ▶ 10:47CI update and library BMP demonstration projectinformational · 2:13 long · water sewer, facilities
- ▶ 13:00Stormwater utility fee draft, funding mix, and staffingno resolution; spreadsheet action · 18:40 long · fees, budget, water sewer
- ▶ 31:40Town Meeting update articleagreed to pursue · 4:20 long · town meeting, warrant article
- ▶ 36:00MS4 permit changes and catch basin workinformational · 7:40 long · water sewer, roads and dpw, staffing
- ▶ 43:40Messaging for Town Meeting introagreed on a short teaser · 2:52 long · town meeting, fees
- ▶ 46:32Approval of minutesvoted · 2:55 long
- ▶ 49:27Ongoing business: recent rain and retention basin; adjournmentinformational; adjourned · 2:47 long · water sewer
What the captions could not carry
- The vote counts on the minutes and on adjournment are not stated; only 'all in favor' is heard.
- Several fee and revenue figures conflict in the captions (residential, commercial, Chapter 90 shares).
- Speakers are not identified, so who made which statement is unclear.
- Whether the minutes are from November second is uncertain.
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