What was said

Stormwater Task Force, May 29, 2025

the recording · 1:28 long, about 9,569 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published an agenda for this meeting. No minutes have been published; the recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.

The short version

  1. ▶ 23:45The task force reviewed the consultant's proposed storm water fee tiers and rates but made no final decision, citing apparent errors in the tier pricing table.
  2. ▶ 47:15Members leaned toward a new top tier for the largest properties and toward one fee alternative as preferred, but called both informal pending the consultant's answers.
  3. ▶ 49:01Open questions remain on how vacant, multi-family and duplex properties would be classified and priced under the fee.
  4. ▶ 1:20:19The group agreed to send the consultant a written list of outstanding questions and to compare Lunenburg's proposed tiers against Chelmsford's structure.
  5. ▶ 1:24:09The next meeting is tentatively targeted for the week of June 10-12, with the consultant invited, or pushed to July if unavailable.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Residents already paying the new storm water utility fee could see their tier or rate change depending on which fee alternative and tier structure the task force ultimately recommends.
  • Owners of vacant, multi-family, duplex or large commercial/industrial parcels have an unresolved classification question that affects what they would be billed.
  • No fee structure has been adopted yet, so any final proposal will still need to come back to the task force and likely to town meeting.

Watch next

  • Consultant's written answers to the task force's compiled list of open questions
  • Next meeting, tentatively the week of June 10-12 (or July if the consultant is unavailable)

budgeteconomic developmentfacilitiesfeeslibraryplanning and zoningpolicyroads and dpwwater sewer

Present: the chair (chair); Jen (task force member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

No substantive votes heard. 2 procedural.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:09Storm water utility fee - town meeting reaction

    Members discussed resident frustration at town meeting about having to pay the new storm water utility fee, especially those with existing flooding problems. They noted a couple of residents said water leaves their property into the road/system regardless, so they'd still be charged.

  2. ▶ 14:21Projected quarterly fee for homeowners

    The task force discussed the figure presented at town meeting to residents for the residential quarterly fee, and debated whether it was framed as an exact figure or a ceiling under the highest-cost alternative.

    as heard:$25 per quarter$100 per year

  3. ▶ 8:28Total eligible properties for the storm water utility

    The group reviewed the March document's property count, subtracting properties with no impervious area, water/right-of-way/forested parcels, and municipally owned properties from the total to reach the number eligible for the fee.

    as heard:4,2844,8654891177581

  4. ▶ 20:39Budget target and which alternative covers it

    A member said alternative two, possibly with some cushion for collection shortfalls, was the one that met the storm water program's budget target, citing an expected contribution from Chapter 90 funds.

    as heard:450a million

  5. ▶ 21:21Chapter 90 state road funding

    Members noted this year's Chapter 90 allocation was much higher than usual, cautioning that the higher figure should not be assumed to recur every year.

    as heard:over 600,000420,000

  6. ▶ 22:44ERU rate alternatives

    The group discussed the per-ERU dollar rate under each fee alternative, describing it as a sliding scale between the lowest and highest proposed rates.

    as heard:$60 per eru$100 per eru

  7. ▶ 23:45Table 33 tier pricing errors

    Members found what they believed were calculation errors in the tier price table, where dollar amounts did not increase consistently between alternatives across certain tiers.

    as heard:1,50015383,00028.50 50

  8. ▶ 58:29Cost difference for the largest tier between alternatives

    A member calculated how much more a top-tier property would pay per year moving from the lowest to the second fee alternative.

    as heard:$1,500 more a year6,0007,500

  9. ▶ 59:52Vacant properties' share of total revenue

    The task force discussed that vacant-category properties account for a meaningful slice of the projected fee revenue and expressed reluctance to drop that revenue from the consultant's budget.

    as heard:5.53%385257

  10. ▶ 1:07:01Comparison to Chelmsford's tiered fee structure

    Members compared Chelmsford's more granular tier system and per-tier dollar rates against Lunenburg's proposed structure, noting Chelmsford charges considerably more at the high end.

    as heard:6818035953734,6271.1 million to 1.2

  11. ▶ 1:12:21Comparison to Millis's per-square-foot billing method

    The group discussed Millis's method of charging a flat unit fee per additional 1,000 square feet of impervious area, and estimated what a large property like Walmart would owe under that method.

    as heard:$3349,50049,000

  12. ▶ 1:14:04Proposed per-square-foot alternative rate

    A member noted an alternate per-1,000-square-foot rate proposed by the consultant for the lowest alternative, and estimated the resulting bill for a large property.

    as heard:$15 for every 1,000 square feet25,000

  13. ▶ 47:15Proposed new tier 11 for largest properties

    Members agreed informally that properties far above the current top tier's square footage threshold (found via GIS review of large parcels) should have a new, higher tier so they are not charged the same as much smaller top-tier properties.

    as heard:210,000420,000

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:20:19A member will write up and send out the outstanding list of questions for the consultant (Nick/Bill) by email so members can review and comment before the next meeting.
  • ▶ 1:20:41The task force will look more closely at Chelmsford's tier structure as a possible model and consider sharing town comparisons with residents.
  • ▶ 47:15Leaning toward adding a new top tier (tier 11) above the current largest tier so the biggest properties (over roughly double the current top threshold) pay more than mid-size top-tier properties.
  • ▶ 1:24:09Target the week of June 10-12 for the next meeting and check the consultant's availability for those dates; if unavailable, push the meeting into July.
  • ▶ 22:04Informal leaning toward 'alternative two' as the preferred fee structure, but explicitly not a final commitment pending consultant answers.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:04Call to order; no public comment because Zoom was not workingprocedural · 0:44 long
  2. ▶ 0:48Debrief on town meeting presentation and resident concerns about the new storm water feeinformational · 3:54 long · budget, fees, public comment
  3. ▶ 3:57Road cracking/pavement condition tangentinformational · 0:45 long · roads and dpw
  4. ▶ 4:42Reviewing prior consultant documents: property counts, exempt categories, table discrepanciesno resolution - unresolved discrepancies flagged for the consultant · 9:39 long · fees, budget
  5. ▶ 14:21Discussion of fee alternatives and the quarterly figure presented to residentsinformational · 6:18 long · fees, budget
  6. ▶ 20:39Which fee alternative meets the storm water program's budget, including Chapter 90 fundingno resolution - informal lean toward alternative two · 1:25 long · budget, roads and dpw
  7. ▶ 22:04Sliding-scale ERU rates and apparent errors in the tier pricing tablereferred to consultant to correct · 5:29 long · fees, budget
  8. ▶ 27:33Reconciling ERU definitions and tier tables (31 vs 33)resolved among members that table 31 is correct · 3:01 long · fees, budget
  9. ▶ 30:34GIS review of large parcels (Walmart, Unitil, storage facilities, Pride Town Landing, Revive Street, LeFarge) to identify tier-10 candidates and need for a new top tierinformal consensus to propose a new tier 11 · 18:27 long · fees, planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 49:01How to classify multi-family/duplex/condex properties for the feeno resolution - referred to consultant · 4:54 long · fees, policy
  11. ▶ 53:55How vacant and vacant-with-improvement properties are classified and pricedno resolution - referred to consultant · 8:02 long · fees, budget
  12. ▶ 1:01:57Comparing Lunenburg's proposed tier structure to Chelmsford, Millis, and Franklin's stormwater fee systemsinformational, model considered for future tier design · 13:10 long · fees, budget
  13. ▶ 1:15:07Concern about appearing unfriendly to large businesses (Walmart, Hannaford) under the impervious-area fee approachno resolution · 4:08 long · fees, economic development
  14. ▶ 1:18:13Cost of MS4 compliance and ongoing drainage work as justification for the feeinformational · 1:45 long · water sewer, roads and dpw
  15. ▶ 1:19:58Compiling outstanding questions for the consultant and setting the next meeting datedecided - target week of June 10-12 · 6:27 long · policy
  16. ▶ 1:26:25Approval of April 24th minutesvoted, passed · 0:42 long
  17. ▶ 1:27:07Update on the library rain garden/BMP projectinformational · 0:43 long · facilities, library
  18. ▶ 1:27:50Adjournmentvoted, passed · 0:20 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Speakers are not identified by name for nearly the entire meeting; most exchanges cannot be attributed to a specific member.
  • Extended stretches of rapid back-and-forth math on tier pricing (roughly 1400-1650s and 3700-4500s) are hard to follow and some figures appear contradictory in the captions themselves (e.g. tier 8/9 pricing).
  • The name of the consultant is rendered inconsistently -- sometimes 'Nick' and once as 'Vic' -- unclear if these are the same person.
  • Neither vote's count is stated; only a voice 'aye' is heard, so 'passed' is inferred from an unopposed voice vote, not a stated count.
  • A stretch around 347-508s discussing which numbers changed between February and March documents is fragmented and hard to follow.

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