What was said
Stormwater Task Force, March 3, 2026
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The town published an agenda for this meeting. No minutes have been published; the recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.
The short version
- ▶ 31:42The task force decided the fee structure stays under select board oversight rather than pursuing a separate sewer/storm commission, which would need a multi-year legislative process.
- ▶ 29:19Members kept a 50% cap on stormwater credits and abatements in the public presentation, matching what other Massachusetts communities with similar utilities offer.
- ▶ 25:52A caveat will be added noting the proposed fee is not guaranteed to stay flat, given uncertainty from a pending new EPA stormwater permit.
- ▶ 34:47A funding-use slide line item for drainage improvement projects was removed because that work is not currently budgeted through the utility.
- ▶ 1:17:38No fee amount was set; the meeting was spent revising slides and an FAQ ahead of an upcoming public presentation, with a final deck due from Jarice the next day.
Why it matters — our reading
- This is preparation for a proposed town-wide stormwater fee that would appear on future water/sewer or tax bills; no rate has been adopted yet.
- Keeping fee governance with the select board, rather than creating a new sewer/storm commission, means the same elected board residents already interact with would continue to set this fee.
- A 50% cap on credits limits how much a property owner could reduce the fee through stormwater management practices, and the fee amount itself is described as unstable pending a new EPA permit.
Watch next
- The public presentation at the library, once room/screen logistics are confirmed
- Jarice's finalized slide deck, due the day after this meeting
budgetbudget fy27capitalfacilitiesfeeshiringplanning and zoningroads and dpwstaffingtax ratetown departmentstown meetingwater sewer
Present: Timothy Willsmer (task force member); John Beiel (heard also as "John V") (task force member); Mark Muzzi (task force member, remote); Bill (DPW/sewer superintendent, presenter); Jarice (also heard as "Justice") (consulting engineer, presenter of draft materials). 2 of 5 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
No substantive votes heard. 1 procedural.
The money
- ▶ 15:13Average single-family home value used in fee illustration
The average home value in Lunenburg was cited to anchor the middle tier of an illustrative residential fee table.
as heard:530,000
- ▶ 16:17Storm water budget figure used in fee-impact example
A member noted the example used an older, smaller total storm water budget figure rather than the newer, larger one, which changes the resulting fee percentages.
as heard:500,000125,000
- ▶ 17:19Property-tax-based method for illustrating fee equivalents (residential A/B/C)
A member proposed showing what residents already pay toward stormwater through property taxes, using the town's tax rate and the storm water budget's share of the total tax levy.
as heard:14.39371%232834
- ▶ 18:21Old vs. new storm water budget total used in percentage calculations
Members compared results from dividing the old, smaller budget figure versus the new, larger figure by the town's total tax levy.
as heard:12535 million
- ▶ 18:44Small residential property fee comparison
A calculation for a small residential property showed it would pay more under the flat utility fee than it currently contributes through taxes, raising concern about that message.
as heard:$80
- ▶ 19:47Upper-tier cap for large commercial properties
The consultant's original proposal had capped large commercial parcel fees at one level; the task force previously rejected that cap and discussed extrapolating tiers upward instead, to preserve revenue and room for partial abatements.
as heard:10,00020,000
- ▶ 20:28Tax-exempt property (church) fee example
A tax-exempt church property, currently paying nothing, would owe a new fee under the proposed structure, illustrating a new revenue source the utility would capture.
as heard:$3,800
- ▶ 21:52Large commercial fee example from a peer town (Dennis)
A shopping complex in Dennis, MA was cited as paying a very high storm water fee under that town's tiered structure, used as a comparison point.
as heard:over $100,000
- ▶ 26:13Estimated total impervious area and revenue-share correlation
Members recalculated the number of parcels times average impervious area, producing updated percentages for the table showing how revenue share compares to impervious-area share.
as heard:37114,20015,52658.956541140
- ▶ 27:57Cap on stormwater credit/abatement for good housekeeping practices
The task force discussed capping credits/abatements at a percentage of the fee, based on what other Massachusetts communities with utilities offer.
as heard:50%
- ▶ 29:59Assumed revenue loss from abatement program
A rule of thumb from other communities assumes a portion of revenue will be lost to abatements once the credit program is in place, and some towns budget higher in year one to compensate.
as heard:10%
- ▶ 32:44Estimated replacement value of town storm water infrastructure
A wide range was initially used to estimate the value of the town's storm drainage network; the task force agreed to use the higher end on the slide.
as heard:32 million68 million100 million
- ▶ 52:44Estimated miles of storm drain pipe and roads with storm infrastructure
Rough estimates of pipe and road mileage were used to size the infrastructure-value slide; a member said these need to be verified with the DPW's own figures.
as heard:60 to 80 miles40 to 50 miles
- ▶ 54:08Infrastructure valuation framed as a park comparison
The estimated value of the storm water network was compared to a large capital asset to make the scale tangible to residents.
as heard:$50 million
- ▶ 57:22Number of properties and parcels in the fee dataset
The rate-structure analysis covers a defined subset of properties out of the town's full assessor's parcel list, with impervious area to be entered for each.
as heard:7005,000 plus
- ▶ 1:08:44DPW operating budget request for storm water items ahead of the utility
Bill said an extra amount was added to the DPW operational budget this cycle in case the utility fee is not approved in time, though he expects it may not survive budget cuts.
as heard:$340,000
- ▶ 1:12:00Prop 2½ tax-levy increase calculator comparison
Using the state's override calculator, the group modeled what an increase to the general tax levy (covering basin cleaning, sweeping, and added engineering needs) would cost an average homeowner, as an alternative to the flat utility fee.
as heard:340,00075,000415,0008794175517
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 5:48Bill agreed to bring hard copies of the FAQ document to hand out at the public meeting.
- ▶ 21:31Keep the residential/commercial fee-impact comparison slide (with the added revenue column), to be refined once real numbers are added.
- ▶ 25:52Add a caveat to the presentation noting the fee is not guaranteed to stay flat, given uncertainty from a pending new EPA stormwater permit.
- ▶ 29:19Keep the 50% cap on credits/abatements in the presentation, consistent with other Massachusetts communities.
- ▶ 31:42Leave fee-structure governance with the select board for now rather than pursuing a combined sewer/storm commission, since that would require a multi-year legislative process.
- ▶ 34:47Remove the 'drainage improvement projects' line item from the funding-use slide since it is not currently budgeted through the utility.
- ▶ 59:03Bill's GIS team will go back and delineate impervious area for previously miscoded properties (e.g., Jaclyn Drive) that lacked a proper land-use code.
- ▶ 57:01John will independently build his own spreadsheet model from the impervious-area data to test rate-structure trade-offs, in parallel with the consultant's team.
- ▶ 52:07Someone will contact the library the next day to confirm the room and whether a screen/projector will be available for the presentation.
- ▶ 1:16:23Hold audience questions until after the full slideshow is presented, given the likely larger turnout for this meeting.
- ▶ 1:17:38The FAQ document will not be further revised for now; Jarice will send a final revised slide deck by end of day the next day.
- ▶ 1:19:04Meeting adjourned at 8:26 p.m. on March 3, 2026.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- fees31 min · 39%
- tax rate18 min · 23%
- policy14 min · 18%
- facilities13 min · 17%
- water sewer11 min · 14%
- capital9 min · 12%
- hiring9 min · 11%
- staffing9 min · 11%
- town meeting8 min · 10%
- budget fy278 min · 10%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:03Call to order, remote-meeting notice, and roll callprocedural · 1:41 long
- ▶ 1:44Confusion over which draft document (FAQ vs. slide presentation) members had reviewed; plan for hard copiesclarified, no vote · 4:48 long · policy
- ▶ 6:32Review of water-quality slide covering Mulpus Brook impairments, mercury TMDL, and EPA listingsrevisions noted for follow-up · 5:53 long · water sewer
- ▶ 12:25Review of EPA/MS4 compliance-requirement slide and proposal to color-code compliance gapsinformational, no vote · 4:54 long · water sewer, policy
- ▶ 17:19Review of sample residential/commercial fee-impact tables, including tax-based comparisons and a Dennis, MA examplerevisions agreed, table to be updated · 6:30 long · fees, tax rate
- ▶ 23:49Discussion of the $100 fee-cap message and a caveat about stability given a pending new EPA permitdecision to add a caveat · 2:24 long · fees, policy
- ▶ 26:13Review of revenue-share vs. impervious-area correlation slidefigures to be recalculated · 1:44 long · fees
- ▶ 27:57Discussion of the 50% credit/abatement cap and how other towns phase in abatement programsdecided to keep the 50% cap · 2:22 long · fees
- ▶ 30:19Governance question: sewer/storm commission versus select board oversight of the feedecided to leave with select board for now · 1:45 long · town departments, policy
- ▶ 32:04Review of remaining written comments: catch basin counts, infrastructure-value range, drainage-improvement line itemrevisions agreed · 5:54 long · capital, facilities
- ▶ 37:58Discussion of the proposed stormwater program manager's duties and workload justificationinformational, no vote · 2:38 long · hiring, staffing, roads and dpw
- ▶ 40:36Peer-town comparison (Chelmsford, Rutland, Pepperell, Dennis) on dedicated stormwater staffing and feesconsultant to research further · 6:17 long · staffing, hiring, fees
- ▶ 46:53Discussion of September 2023 storm damage photos and the Hickory Hills Dam context for a slidephotos to be sourced · 4:07 long · facilities, public safety
- ▶ 51:26Logistics for the public presentation: laptop, screen/projector, and library roomaction assigned to confirm with library · 1:18 long
- ▶ 52:44Review of storm drain pipe mileage and infrastructure-value estimate slidefigures to be verified with DPW · 3:16 long · capital, facilities
- ▶ 56:00Status of impervious-area analysis and division of labor on building the fee rate structure, including property edge cases (condos, nonprofits, subdivided parcels)data to be shared; John to build parallel model · 6:53 long · fees, planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:02:53Whether a public GIS data viewer for property-level impervious area would be availablenoted as cut from consultant's scope · 0:43 long · technology, fees
- ▶ 1:03:36Approval process and timing for the fee structure relative to town meeting and the FY27/FY28 budget cyclediscussed, no formal decision · 7:42 long · town meeting, budget fy27, tax rate
- ▶ 1:11:18Demonstration of the state's Prop 2½ calculator comparing a general tax-levy increase to the proposed flat utility feeinformational, no vote · 4:03 long · tax rate, fees
- ▶ 1:15:21Planning the format of the public presentation, including when to take audience questionsdecided to hold questions until after the slideshow · 1:56 long
- ▶ 1:17:17Closing remarks, plan to finalize slides, and adjournmentvoted (adjournment) · 1:47 long
What the captions could not carry
- The final vote count on the motion to adjourn was not stated explicitly, though a member said the board had 'a majority anyway.'
- The presenter's name was rendered inconsistently as both 'Jarice' and 'Justice' in the captions; which is correct is not clear.
- Whether the person conducting roll call and reading the agenda ('John') is the same person listed separately as 'John V.'/'John Beiel' during roll call is not clear from the captions.
- The figure '8794' for the average tax-levy-increase impact per household is ambiguous as heard -- it may represent $87.94 or a different amount.
- Renee Mi's role and whether she contributed any material discussed (e.g., budget figures 'she was concerned' about) could not be confirmed since she was absent and only referenced by others.
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